Josh Gordon
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US 70 sounds like a highway to me. Maybe a section of highway like they have through some towns here in ohio. The speed limit goes from 70 to 35 pretty quick in some places. Cops would NEVER hide in those places to catch somebody slipping at 3 AM in the morning.
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Either you missed it or just glossed it over, kinda like you're assessment of Josh Gordon. But his Blood Alcohol level was .01 percent over the LEGAL LIMIT.
Call it what you like but I think you already said it BEST- Josh Gordon a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Not the MONSTER you'd like him to be.
1) Either you missed it or just glossed it over, kinda like you're assessment of Josh Gordon. But his Blood Alcohol level was .01 percent over the LEGAL LIMIT.
2)Call it what you like but I think you already said it BEST- Josh Gordon a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Not the MONSTER you'd like him to be.
1) Said it once already- I used to do blood alcohols for a living PO. Your math is off. 0.01% of 0.08 is 0.08008- not 0.09. You can argue if you want that's too low, it used to be 0.1 for most states, until Mothers Against Drunk Driving got involved.
2) He's a victim of the circumstances he created for himself. PERIOD. No one put a gun to his head and told him to drive after he had been drinking, or light up a fattie when he knew the consequences of that action could get him suspended. Or get nailed for Purple Drank when he didn't have a prescription for it. (BTW, it's the best cough medicine in the world- if you're using it legitimately, not swilling a bottle of it and washing it down with a pint of vodka to get a hellacious buzz). Guys that have a drinking or drug problem often point the finger of blame for their actions at everyone and everything but themselves. Sorry, but the "victim of circumstances" doesn't fly with me. I'm sure Josh isn't a "bad" guy. One of the nicest guys I've ever met was a recovering alcoholic who had been tossed in jail 4 times, (the last for 6 months) for umpteen DUIs and driving on a revoked license.
Re-read this thread PO, and notice the company he's been keeping. One of the first things they're going to tell you in AA is if you want to stay clean, you need to find better friends to hang out with.
I sincerely hope Josh makes it this time- he's already flushed millions of dollars down the drain making BAD decisions off the field.
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1) Either you missed it or just glossed it over, kinda like you're assessment of Josh Gordon. But his Blood Alcohol level was .01 percent over the LEGAL LIMIT.
2)Call it what you like but I think you already said it BEST- Josh Gordon a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Not the MONSTER you'd like him to be.
1) Said it once already- I used to do blood alcohols for a living PO. Your math is off. 0.01% of 0.08 is 0.08008- not 0.09. You can argue if you want that's too low, it used to be 0.1 for most states, until Mothers Against Drunk Driving got involved.
2) He's a victim of the circumstances he created for himself. PERIOD. No one put a gun to his head and told him to drive after he had been drinking, or light up a fattie when he knew the consequences of that action could get him suspended. Or get nailed for Purple Drank when he didn't have a prescription for it. (BTW, it's the best cough medicine in the world- if you're using it legitimately, not swilling a bottle of it and washing it down with a pint of vodka to get a hellacious buzz). Guys that have a drinking or drug problem often point the finger of blame for their actions at everyone and everything but themselves. Sorry, but the "victim of circumstances" doesn't fly with me. I'm sure Josh isn't a "bad" guy. One of the nicest guys I've ever met was a recovering alcoholic who had been tossed in jail 4 times, (the last for 6 months) for umpteen DUIs and driving on a revoked license.
Re-read this thread PO, and notice the company he's been keeping. One of the first things they're going to tell you in AA is if you want to stay clean, you need to find better friends to hang out with.
I sincerely hope Josh makes it this time- he's already flushed millions of dollars down the drain making BAD decisions off the field.
1) Said it once already- I used to do blood alcohols for a living PO. Your math is off. 0.01% of 0.08 is 0.08008- not 0.09. You can argue if you want that's too low, it used to be 0.1 for most states, until Mothers Against Drunk Driving got involved.
2) He's a victim of the circumstances he created for himself. PERIOD. No one put a gun to his head and told him to drive after he had been drinking, or light up a fattie when he knew the consequences of that action could get him suspended. Or get nailed for Purple Drank when he didn't have a prescription for it. (BTW, it's the best cough medicine in the world- if you're using it legitimately, not swilling a bottle of it and washing it down with a pint of vodka to get a hellacious buzz). Guys that have a drinking or drug problem often point the finger of blame for their actions at everyone and everything but themselves. Sorry, but the "victim of circumstances" doesn't fly with me. I'm sure Josh isn't a "bad" guy. One of the nicest guys I've ever met was a recovering alcoholic who had been tossed in jail 4 times, (the last for 6 months) for umpteen DUIs and driving on a revoked license.
Re-read this thread PO, and notice the company he's been keeping. One of the first things they're going to tell you in AA is if you want to stay clean, you need to find better friends to hang out with.
I sincerely hope Josh makes it this time- he's already flushed millions of dollars down the drain making BAD decisions off the field.
POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
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Weird, it's almost like you're a whiner who's full of BS as the Steelers currently wait on the league to reinstate our amazingly talented WR after serving his suspension and meeting all requirements for reinstatement.
It's almost as if you're a little b*tch who just can't handle that your franchise is the longest running joke in professional sports?
Call us when your piece of shit cheating, cocksucking the Commish franchise catches up to our 13 titles..Not even halfway there yet.
Call us when your piece of shit cheating, cocksucking the Commish franchise catches up to our 13 titles..Not even halfway there yet.
Which does nothing to help diminish the fact that the browns are viewed nationally as long running joke.
I would venture to say that the average browns fan who has only seen a lifetime of losing would trade those meaningless champeonships for a Super Bowl winner.
It would erase the years of misery. Browns fans would literally sob. Crying tears of joy as they watch a QB wearing brown and orange hoist the Lombardi... and the parade would make the Cavs look like childs play...no rioting please.
Until then keep going to your Holy Trinity of "go to's" to make yourself feel better while putting Steeler fans in their place ....that always works! lol.
1. Browns have 13 Championships.
2. Turkey Jones planted Bradshaw.
3. Browns beat the Steelers 51-0
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Call us when your piece of shit cheating, cocksucking the Commish franchise catches up to our 13 titles..Not even halfway there yet.
Which does nothing to help diminish the fact that the browns are viewed nationally as long running joke.
I would venture to say that the average browns fan who has only seen a lifetime of losing would trade those meaningless champeonships for a Super Bowl winner.
It would erase the years of misery. Browns fans would literally sob. Crying tears of joy as they watch a QB wearing brown and orange hoist the Lombardi... and the parade would make the Cavs look like childs play...no rioting please.
Until then keep going to your Holy Trinity of "go to's" to make yourself feel better while putting Steeler fans in their place ....that always works! lol.
1. Browns have 13 Championships.
2. Turkey Jones planted Bradshaw.
3. Browns beat the Steelers 51-0
Which does nothing to help diminish the fact that the browns are viewed nationally as long running joke.
But, not as long as you have been a long running joke around here
I would venture to say that the average browns fan who has only seen a lifetime of losing would trade those meaningless champeonships for a Super Bowl winner.
As would a Steeler fan right now trade all their own meaningless championships for one right now. Yes...whatever titles the Steelers have won are as equally meaningless right now as anything the Akron Pros or Canton Bulldogs have won. Only the last title and the next one have any meaning.
It would erase the years of misery. Browns fans would literally sob. Crying tears of joy as they watch a QB wearing brown and orange hoist the Lombardi... and the parade would make the Cavs look like childs play...no rioting please.
The Cleveland Indians have business to take care of right now. We shall see how that parade (hopefully goes first).
Until then keep going to your Holy Trinity of "go to's" to make yourself feel better while putting Steeler fans in their place ....that always works! lol.
1. Browns have 13 Championships.
Browns don't have 13 Championships. Typical...can't get your own facts straight. NE Ohio does however have 13. Call us when you catch up half way.
2. Turkey Jones planted Bradshaw.
3. Browns beat the Steelers 51-0
You have never seem me talk about these last two. Again, typical...you can't keep fact straight...you can't keep who you are responding to straight.
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Can he make it from the door to his car without failing a piss test?
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Can he make it from the door to his car without failing a piss test?
And if he can't it costs us what? That we have to go back to one of our overpriced and under-producing free agents? I'd rather Kenny Britt fired one up on the sidelines then to drop passes stone cold sober.
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Can he make it from the door to his car without failing a piss test?
How many has he ever really failed? All of maybe one..while a member of the NFL? He had an alcohol thing where it seemed like he drank a couple of beers, plus his voluntary rehab stints.
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In 8 years of college and pros he hasn't gone 12 months without being suspended. He hasn't gone 8 months without some sort of incident.
But yeah, it will change this time...
In 8 years of college and pros he hasn't gone 12 months without being suspended. He hasn't gone 8 months without some sort of incident.
But yeah, it will change this time...
Just quoting myself here. Don't care about specifics. The guy can't stay out of trouble.
And no, I'd rather not get two games of Gordon and then have him suspended again. I'd rather not have Britt either. So I guess I don't have another solution other than some 3 TE sets. But pinning even the smallest of hopes on this guy is silly.
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1) Said it once already- I used to do blood alcohols for a living PO. Your math is off. 0.01% of 0.08 is 0.08008- not 0.09. You can argue if you want that's too low, it used to be 0.1 for most states, until Mothers Against Drunk Driving got involved.
2) He's a victim of the circumstances he created for himself. PERIOD. No one put a gun to his head and told him to drive after he had been drinking, or light up a fattie when he knew the consequences of that action could get him suspended. Or get nailed for Purple Drank when he didn't have a prescription for it. (BTW, it's the best cough medicine in the world- if you're using it legitimately, not swilling a bottle of it and washing it down with a pint of vodka to get a hellacious buzz). Guys that have a drinking or drug problem often point the finger of blame for their actions at everyone and everything but themselves. Sorry, but the "victim of circumstances" doesn't fly with me. I'm sure Josh isn't a "bad" guy. One of the nicest guys I've ever met was a recovering alcoholic who had been tossed in jail 4 times, (the last for 6 months) for umpteen DUIs and driving on a revoked license.
Re-read this thread PO, and notice the company he's been keeping. One of the first things they're going to tell you in AA is if you want to stay clean, you need to find better friends to hang out with.
I sincerely hope Josh makes it this time- he's already flushed millions of dollars down the drain making BAD decisions off the field.
POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
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POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues.... -
POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues....That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues....Yes, .08 is the legal Blood Alcohol Content level. But....was that what Gordon had? I didn't think it was anywhere near that. Fact check.
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That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues....Yes, .08 is the legal Blood Alcohol Content level. But....was that what Gordon had? I didn't think it was anywhere near that. Fact check.
Yes, .08 is the legal Blood Alcohol Content level. But....was that what Gordon had? I didn't think it was anywhere near that. Fact check.
It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
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POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues.... -
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Yes, .08 is the legal Blood Alcohol Content level. But....was that what Gordon had? I didn't think it was anywhere near that. Fact check.
It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
Being "over the limit" is a statutory issue. It is basically arbitrary. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are impaired. When I was first practicing the legal limit was .15. Then it went down to .10, then to .08. Did science change? No, just statutes changed. Some people may be lit up at .04...others can function at .15.
Its like speeding. Was it unsafe for you to drive 71 mph in a 60 mph zone? Maybe not. But that 60 was an arbitrary limit set by some governing body.....not a function of actual safeness.
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Shit man, I drive at 2.6 normal, shit.
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It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
Being "over the limit" is a statutory issue. It is basically arbitrary. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are impaired. When I was first practicing the legal limit was .15. Then it went down to .10, then to .08. Did science change? No, just statutes changed. Some people may be lit up at .04...others can function at .15.
Its like speeding. Was it unsafe for you to drive 71 mph in a 60 mph zone? Maybe not. But that 60 was an arbitrary limit set by some governing body.....not a function of actual safeness.
Being "over the limit" is a statutory issue. It is basically arbitrary. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are impaired. When I was first practicing the legal limit was .15. Then it went down to .10, then to .08. Did science change? No, just statutes changed. Some people may be lit up at .04...others can function at .15.
Its like speeding. Was it unsafe for you to drive 71 mph in a 60 mph zone? Maybe not. But that 60 was an arbitrary limit set by some governing body.....not a function of actual safeness.
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