Josh Gordon
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It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
Being "over the limit" is a statutory issue. It is basically arbitrary. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are impaired. When I was first practicing the legal limit was .15. Then it went down to .10, then to .08. Did science change? No, just statutes changed. Some people may be lit up at .04...others can function at .15.
Its like speeding. Was it unsafe for you to drive 71 mph in a 60 mph zone? Maybe not. But that 60 was an arbitrary limit set by some governing body.....not a function of actual safeness.
Being "over the limit" is a statutory issue. It is basically arbitrary. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are impaired. When I was first practicing the legal limit was .15. Then it went down to .10, then to .08. Did science change? No, just statutes changed. Some people may be lit up at .04...others can function at .15.
Its like speeding. Was it unsafe for you to drive 71 mph in a 60 mph zone? Maybe not. But that 60 was an arbitrary limit set by some governing body.....not a function of actual safeness.
Follow the money.
WSS
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I don't get all this. He's let the Browns organisation down for five years.
He even instagrammed burning the browns uniform?
The blokes a cunt.
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#FreeJoshGordon
#PLAYtheMAN
#12FlashBackers
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I don't get all this. He's let the Browns organisation down for five years.
He even instagrammed burning the browns uniform?
The blokes a cunt.
The blokes a cunt.
Maybe... but he was the best cunt of a WR we've seen in decades. Is he still? Hope to find out...
Hope they let him into England...
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Player wise I wouldn't ever be negative. I still remember him catching a slant in New England and making Talib look like a child, he just jogged away from him for about a 40 yard TD. It was ridiculous.
The instagram stuff was unforgivable for me. He doesn't want to be here. It's been obvious for a long time.
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What did Jim Brown say about the way they talked to him? That he would have stayed and played another year at least if they would have treated him differently...
The way Hue left it out there when he was asked about Gordon was wrong. He could have simply said that he understood and he would have Gordon's back and that when he was better he would love to have him be able to be a part of the team.
I think that we embrace Josh and let him know that we care about HIM and we want him to play here for us would go a long way.
Back the Flash.
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That's absolute nonsense PoG.
They gave him the reps as the number one receiver and he then bailed before the season. So not only were we without him he took the reps off of WRs that were playing.
He's treated the Browns like shit ever since he arrived HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR US.
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That's absolute nonsense PoG.
They gave him the reps as the number one receiver and he then bailed before the season. So not only were we without him he took the reps off of WRs that were playing.
He's treated the Browns like shit ever since he arrived HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR US.
That's absolute nonsense PoG.
They gave him the reps as the number one receiver and he then bailed before the season. So not only were we without him he took the reps off of WRs that were playing.
He's treated the Browns like shit ever since he arrived HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR US.
If he gets reinstated- he doesn't have a choice this season. It would be stupid for the Browns to cut him. He's only due $1 million on his rookie deal- and that probably would get prorated considering he's going to miss some games regardless. That's dirt cheap for the talent level he's flashed in the past. BTW, he's only a RFA in 2018- meaning if he wants to get paid that year- (or go elsewhere) he had damn well better not dog it this year. If he gets on the field, and shows his old form, the Browns would doubtless slap a first round tender on him. Some other team offers him $10 million- the Browns can say thank you very much, we'll take the first round pick and have three first rounders (not counting the three second round picks) in the 2018 draft. Happy now?
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That's absolute nonsense PoG.
They gave him the reps as the number one receiver and he then bailed before the season. So not only were we without him he took the reps off of WRs that were playing.
He's treated the Browns like shit ever since he arrived HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR US.
If he gets reinstated- he doesn't have a choice this season. It would be stupid for the Browns to cut him. He's only due $1 million on his rookie deal- and that probably would get prorated considering he's going to miss some games regardless. That's dirt cheap for the talent level he's flashed in the past. BTW, he's only a RFA in 2018- meaning if he wants to get paid that year- (or go elsewhere) he had damn well better not dog it this year. If he gets on the field, and shows his old form, the Browns would doubtless slap a first round tender on him. Some other team offers him $10 million- the Browns can say thank you very much, we'll take the first round pick and have three first rounders (not counting the three second round picks) in the 2018 draft. Happy now?
If he gets reinstated- he doesn't have a choice this season. It would be stupid for the Browns to cut him. He's only due $1 million on his rookie deal- and that probably would get prorated considering he's going to miss some games regardless. That's dirt cheap for the talent level he's flashed in the past. BTW, he's only a RFA in 2018- meaning if he wants to get paid that year- (or go elsewhere) he had damn well better not dog it this year. If he gets on the field, and shows his old form, the Browns would doubtless slap a first round tender on him. Some other team offers him $10 million- the Browns can say thank you very much, we'll take the first round pick and have three first rounders (not counting the three second round picks) in the 2018 draft. Happy now?
I think that's exactly how it will play out if he can stay on the field.
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That's absolute nonsense PoG.
They gave him the reps as the number one receiver and he then bailed before the season. So not only were we without him he took the reps off of WRs that were playing.
He's treated the Browns like shit ever since he arrived HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR US.
If he gets reinstated- he doesn't have a choice this season. It would be stupid for the Browns to cut him. He's only due $1 million on his rookie deal- and that probably would get prorated considering he's going to miss some games regardless. That's dirt cheap for the talent level he's flashed in the past. BTW, he's only a RFA in 2018- meaning if he wants to get paid that year- (or go elsewhere) he had damn well better not dog it this year. If he gets on the field, and shows his old form, the Browns would doubtless slap a first round tender on him. Some other team offers him $10 million- the Browns can say thank you very much, we'll take the first round pick and have three first rounders (not counting the three second round picks) in the 2018 draft. Happy now?
If he gets on the field, and shows his old form, the Browns would doubtless slap a first round tender on him. Some other team offers him $10 million- the Browns can say thank you very much, we'll take the first round pick and have three first rounders (not counting the three second round picks) in the 2018 draft. Happy now?
All good up to here H^^the rest maybe some real Fantasy Football at best..All in the hands of the Harvard Hustlers..Really wish Josh luck seeing Week 17..no matter where this train may turn..don't see long term deals? but matching a few 1 year deals maybe? IF he even has the chance to open a Browns Locker-room Door again..Get ready for a 17 page'uurrrrrrr tread
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I think that if JG hadn't gotten into trouble until he'd had three years in the league under his belt AND he was with one of the leagues pet teams (Patriots, Cowboys, etc) that can do whatever they like and just get a slap on the wrist, he would have been back playing two years ago. But since he plays for the Browns, I honestly don't see him ever being reinstated unless we trade him to the Patriots, and then he would be reinstated within a month or so. Just sayin...
I think that if JG hadn't gotten into trouble until he'd had three years in the league under his belt AND he was with one of the leagues pet teams (Patriots, Cowboys, etc) that can do whatever they like and just get a slap on the wrist, he would have been back playing two years ago. But since he plays for the Browns, I honestly don't see him ever being reinstated unless we trade him to the Patriots, and then he would be reinstated within a month or so. Just sayin...
I don't think we can trade an inactive player. I think he'll be reinstated, ball out and be traded in the offseason.
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From reddit...
Short Convo with Josh Gordon about possible return (self.Browns)
26 points submitted 16 hours ago* by 1northeast4
I hit up Josh Gordon last night on snap and we talked for a minute and said he's done everything the NFLs asked and expects to be reinstated soon.That is all Josh told me and he asked me to not screenshot so out of respect i didn't. I told him thanks for spending the 2 minutes or so to talk to me and he left me on read but I appreciate his time and the update none the less. Many of you won't believe me which is fine. I'm not trying to prove anything. Just wait a few days. Everyone needs to have a little patience with this situation.
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I'm going to take a giant stab in the dark and guess that PoG was a HUGE Johnny Football fan too.
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Derek Carr should have been our first pick.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Should have drafted Tyrann Mathieu, Karl Joseph and Khalil Mack but what do I know? You're much smarter than I am. Should have kept Haden. We need to start Kevin Hogan. Jimmy Haslam needs to get Goodell on the phone and give him an earful about getting Gordon reinstated. We also need to go pluck Scooby Wright off the Cardinals practice squad. I don't even wanna know what Greg Williams could do with that beast.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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Should have drafted Tyrann Mathieu, Karl Joseph and Khalil Mack but what do I know? You're much smarter than I am. Should have kept Haden. We need to start Kevin Hogan. Jimmy Haslam needs to get Goodell on the phone and give him an earful about getting Gordon reinstated. We also need to go pluck Scooby Wright off the Cardinals practice squad. I don't even wanna know what Greg Williams could do with that beast.
Should have drafted Tyrann Mathieu, Karl Joseph and Khalil Mack but what do I know? You're much smarter than I am. Should have kept Haden. We need to start Kevin Hogan. Jimmy Haslam needs to get Goodell on the phone and give him an earful about getting Gordon reinstated. We also need to go pluck Scooby Wright off the Cardinals practice squad. I don't even wanna know what Greg Williams could do with that beast.
1. Definitely agree with Mack. I wasn't real high on Honey Badger for multiple reasons, to be honest.
2. That's probably true. You aren't setting the bar real high.
3. Eh on Haden. Won't shock me to hear he's been very mediocre for the Steelers or that he ends up on IR again.
4. Hogan to me is Kessler Part Deux, a guy who will be prepared and will give you a solid effort every time, but is limited physically and most likely is a fringe starter/solid backup QB for years. Browns QBs don't have a long shelf life regarding their health, so you probably will get your wish for Hogan to start relatively soon.
5. You aren't the only one on here who has this peculiar Stockholm Syndrome thing for Josh Gordon.
6. Calling someone a "beast" who is currently on a practice squad made me chuckle. Thanks for that!
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Yeah, we had the chance. Blew it.
I got the same vibes from Hogan as I did from Carr.
Start that man. He's gonna be good.
We should have just paid Terrell Pryor to stay here too.
I would have liked to see Carr(or Hogan) as the QB.
WRs- Gordon, Pryor and Coleman in the slot with Higgins/Ricardo bringing up the #4/5 spots
It would be nice to get a Blue chip RB, I liked both Fournette and McCafferey. Thought that it would be interesting reuniting McC and Hogan in the NFL, they had some good offense in college. Crow and Duke will work for now.
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