2018 QB Draft Class
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Did anyone else watch the UVA - Boise St. contest last nite?
I caught a few chunks and thought I may have seen a darkhorse candidate... UVA's Kurt Benkert, a 6'4 Sr. Made a few really nice throws including a gem of a 55-yd bomb that dropped into the lap of a streaking WR between two DBs for a TD. Nice poise... was surveying the field... a lot to like.
Did anyone else watch the UVA - Boise St. contest last nite?
I caught a few chunks and thought I may have seen a darkhorse candidate... UVA's Kurt Benkert, a 6'4 Sr. Made a few really nice throws including a gem of a 55-yd bomb that dropped into the lap of a streaking WR between two DBs for a TD. Nice poise... was surveying the field... a lot to like.
No, but I watched the first half of the Wyoming- Hawaii game, got the rest of it on DVR. Have to call it an early night for the trip to Indy. Could see why there's some buzz about Allen.
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Allen was not very good the first half and I went to bed. I do know he is facing far lessor talent every week than other QBs.
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Allen was not very good the first half and I went to bed. I do know he is facing far lessor talent every week than other QBs.
Allen was not very good the first half and I went to bed. I do know he is facing far lessor talent every week than other QBs.
I believe his stats vs the big boys (teams of the top 5 leagues) is pretty 'eh'...
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Feel bad for any top prospect brought into this dumpster fire
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Feel bad for any top prospect brought into this dumpster fire
Feel bad for any top prospect brought into this dumpster fire
That's ok, he'll be written off within three games by the knee-jerk geniuses that make up the overwhelming majority of Browns fans.
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Feel bad for any top prospect brought into this dumpster fire
That's ok, he'll be written off within three games by the knee-jerk geniuses that make up the overwhelming majority of Browns fans.
That's ok, he'll be written off within three games by the knee-jerk geniuses that make up the overwhelming majority of Browns fans.
Knee Jerk now that’s hilarious after enduring the same bullshit year after year.
Newsflash Sunshine Pumpers the Browns have won more than 5 games 1 since 2008. Gonna be a decade of this shit but yeah those that say the team sucks are the ones quick to overreact, 10 fucking years of proof = overreaction smfh
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That's ok, he'll be written off within three games by the knee-jerk geniuses that make up the overwhelming majority of Browns fans.
Knee Jerk now that’s hilarious after enduring the same bullshit year after year.
Newsflash Sunshine Pumpers the Browns have won more than 5 games 1 since 2008. Gonna be a decade of this shit but yeah those that say the team sucks are the ones quick to overreact, 10 fucking years of proof = overreaction smfh
Knee Jerk now that’s hilarious after enduring the same bullshit year after year.
Newsflash Sunshine Pumpers the Browns have won more than 5 games 1 since 2008. Gonna be a decade of this shit but yeah those that say the team sucks are the ones quick to overreact, 10 fucking years of proof = overreaction smfh
Saying the Browns are a bad NFL team is not a knee-jerk reaction. That can pretty much be written in stone and placed on Mt. Rushmore, everyone knows this, despite idiots like Ghoolie acting like they are dropping earth-shattering news on us by saying the Browns suck.
What IS a knee-jerk reaction is writing a rookie off three games into his career, especially considering in a perfect world he wouldn't be starting until much later in this season, at the earliest.
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If it was all about drops we would be in agreement but Kizer is inaccurate and takes to long to read the field. These were knocks on him in college and typically those things don’t get corrected. Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Manziel and Colt McCoy all had issues in college but the Browns so desperate to draft the next QB took them and they all had the same flaws as they did in college
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If it was all about drops we would be in agreement but Kizer is inaccurate and takes to long to read the field. These were knocks on him in college and typically those things don’t get corrected. Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Manziel and Colt McCoy all had issues in college but the Browns so desperate to draft the next QB took them and they all had the same flaws as they did in college
If it was all about drops we would be in agreement but Kizer is inaccurate and takes to long to read the field. These were knocks on him in college and typically those things don’t get corrected. Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Manziel and Colt McCoy all had issues in college but the Browns so desperate to draft the next QB took them and they all had the same flaws as they did in college
The problem is so many college teams use the spread offense, which couldn't be more different than a pro-style offense if it tried. It produces QBs who don't call plays in a huddle, don't make progressions, don't have to fit the ball into tight openings, etc. I absolutely loathe the spread offense, and the #1 reason is that it makes evaluating college QBs a nightmare.
Not only does the spread cause problems regarding QBs at the next level, NFL teams are struggling with OLineman who have shitty run-blocking skills in a pro set, since the spread is such a different animal.
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I have been saying the last two years the 2018 qb class is much better than recent years. We need to build a team around the qb before We pick up a quality rookie. Last year we built the d stronger and plugged some holes. Next year we will get a franchise qb. So enjoy this years ride.
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That's ok, he'll be written off within three games by the knee-jerk geniuses that make up the overwhelming majority of Browns fans.
Knee Jerk now that’s hilarious after enduring the same bullshit year after year.
Newsflash Sunshine Pumpers the Browns have won more than 5 games 1 since 2008. Gonna be a decade of this shit but yeah those that say the team sucks are the ones quick to overreact, 10 fucking years of proof = overreaction smfh
Newsflash Sunshine Pumpers the Browns have won more than 5 games 1 since 2008.
Can I get a decode for the Bold, please? Five opening days? Six or more wins once? Other?
I'd hate to be a Sunshine pumper and not know it...
These were knocks on him in college and typically those things don’t get corrected.
Actually that's the knock on very nearly every QB coming out of college and some do correct them. But the percentage is not high, which is what makes finding one so difficult and risky.
QBs have always been a crap shoot. The Spread has certainly exasperated things, but so has the ever increasing complexity of passing attacks. Who ever heard of a back-shoulder fade in the 90's?
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Newsflash Sunshine Pumpers the Browns have won more than 5 games 1 since 2008.
Can I get a decode for the Bold, please? Five opening days? Six or more wins once? Other?
I'd hate to be a Sunshine pumper and not know it...
These were knocks on him in college and typically those things don’t get corrected.
Actually that's the knock on very nearly every QB coming out of college and some do correct them. But the percentage is not high, which is what makes finding one so difficult and risky.
QBs have always been a crap shoot. The Spread has certainly exasperated things, but so has the ever increasing complexity of passing attacks. Who ever heard of a back-shoulder fade in the 90's?
Can I get a decode for the Bold, please? Five opening days? Six or more wins once? Other?
I'd hate to be a Sunshine pumper and not know it...
Actually that's the knock on very nearly every QB coming out of college and some do correct them. But the percentage is not high, which is what makes finding one so difficult and risky.
QBs have always been a crap shoot. The Spread has certainly exasperated things, but so has the ever increasing complexity of passing attacks. Who ever heard of a back-shoulder fade in the 90's?
Decoder, only won more than 5 games in a season once since 2008 but sarcasm noted.
And with as many holes as this team has why continue to chase the white whale. Detroit has had a franchise QB in Stafford since 2009 and they aren’t vastly better than the Browns.
I think even the Hatfields and McCoys will agree that you have to control the line of scrimmage and then make plays. The Browns have failed to establish an identity for quite some time. They are mediocre everywhere which is hard to watch. Each week I’m just holding my breath until one phase of the game collapses.
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lol... well it's good to know that good sarcasm did not go to waste...
Yeah, it's hard... but I still see a difference between the path to past failures and what we are doing now. Do the results show that? Nah... not yet, but at least we are not plowing the same field we have for two decades and counting.
As for areas... I feel you. If I said I saw the D collapsing today, I'd be lying. I don't see what Gregg was trying to do today in switching to let WRs run free under five yard cushions. I look forward to his explanation(s).
Here's hoping that STs Game1, Offense Game 2 and Defense game 3 have run us out of options. Hope ain't much of a plan, but it's all we got for now...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I have been saying the last two years the 2018 qb class is much better than recent years. We need to build a team around the qb before We pick up a quality rookie. Last year we built the d stronger and plugged some holes. Next year we will get a franchise qb. So enjoy this years ride.
I have been saying the last two years the 2018 qb class is much better than recent years. We need to build a team around the qb before We pick up a quality rookie. Last year we built the d stronger and plugged some holes. Next year we will get a franchise qb. So enjoy this years ride.
Sorry if I'm not enjoying the ride this year.
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Baker Mayfield looks awesome so far. He put his foot straight up the Buckeyes' ass. I haven't seen much NCAAF this season cuz I'm busy on Saturdays, but from the HL's, Rosen and Mayfield seem to be playing the best.
Mayfield seems better at eluding defenses than the cops
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@boo-fagley said:
Exactly right.
It sucks that this season might be hard to watch with expectations so high. But Sashi is a good GM and I believe he has his eye on a 2018 QB. Good things are ahead.
Lol.
Of course if I had his job we would have Mitch trubisky learning from Josh McCown with Malik Hooker and OJ Howard.
WSS
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@boo-fagley said:
Exactly right.
It sucks that this season might be hard to watch with expectations so high. But Sashi is a good GM and I believe he has his eye on a 2018 QB. Good things are ahead.
Lol.
Of course if I had his job we would have Mitch trubisky learning from Josh McCown with Malik Hooker and OJ Howard.
WSS
Lol.
Of course if I had his job we would have Mitch trubisky learning from Josh McCown with Malik Hooker and OJ Howard.
WSS
You mentioned this....but I am still not sure how that could have worked out. I think the Browns could only have gotten two of them. They could have taken MT at #1, then Hooker with like #10 or so....But: In order to get 3 first round picks the Browns had to trade down in round one to get Peppers, then back up again to get Njoku.
Don't think it could have worked to get the three you mention.
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Baker Mayfield looks awesome so far. He put his foot straight up the Buckeyes' ass. I haven't seen much NCAAF this season cuz I'm busy on Saturdays, but from the HL's, Rosen and Mayfield seem to be playing the best.
Mayfield seems better at eluding defenses than the cops
Baker Mayfield looks awesome so far. He put his foot straight up the Buckeyes' ass. I haven't seen much NCAAF this season cuz I'm busy on Saturdays, but from the HL's, Rosen and Mayfield seem to be playing the best.
Mayfield seems better at eluding defenses than the cops
OU is my favorite college team but Mayfield's skill set will not translate to NFL success but darn good college QB
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Baker Mayfield looks awesome so far. He put his foot straight up the Buckeyes' ass. I haven't seen much NCAAF this season cuz I'm busy on Saturdays, but from the HL's, Rosen and Mayfield seem to be playing the best.
Mayfield seems better at eluding defenses than the cops
OU is my favorite college team but Mayfield's skill set will not translate to NFL success but darn good college QB
... Mayfield's skill set will not translate to NFL success but darn good college QB
I somewhat feel the same. I see Mayfield and I see a sober, more dedicated, more disciplined JFF. Those three modifiers give him a chance, a better chance, but his odds are not great.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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