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  • That's exactly what happened today during Tits-Hawks.. you may already be emperor?

    @unsympathetic said:

    That's exactly what happened today during Tits-Hawks.. you may already be emperor?

    Steelers did that too I believe.

  • That's exactly what happened today during Tits-Hawks.. you may already be emperor?

    @unsympathetic said:

    you may already be emperor?

    Just don’t make fun of his new clothes.

  • Here's where I stand on this. I hate when they kneel. I disagree not only with the approach but also the existence of the purported systemic injustice they are protesting. I am a mostly Republican and a definite conservative AND I BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION. You know, that piece of parchment that gives us FREEDOM of speech and expression. If you are a vet firstly thank you. Secondly whether you are a vet or support our vets you have to support freedom. We cannot only support freedom when  it aligns with our own opinion. The second we do we are no longer a free nation we are on the path to those we fight. Now often I hear people try to refute this based on the fact the players are working. I again have to disagree. If I were at work and they played an anthem I disagree with I'd sit and I would not be fired. That is a lot different than if you were on the clock giving speeches.  Now relative to the Presidents tweets I'm sorry but many of them are inappropriate. Hell I often agree with things he says and might expect myself to tweet it but not the leader of America!! He needs to grow the fuck up and act like a professional and president. I respect the office, agree with many of his policies but  his approach leaves a lot to be desired. 

  • That's exactly what happened today during Tits-Hawks.. you may already be emperor?

    @unsympathetic said:

    That's exactly what happened today during Tits-Hawks.. you may already be emperor?

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  • US soldiers swear to defend the Constitution first and foremost.  Their allegiance to the President is explicitly conditional to both regulations and the UCMJ.. and was not present in the oath until 1960, meaning their ONLY allegiance was to the Constitution up to that point.  [Linked is the actual oath that Army enlisted men take.  Read it - you might learn something..]

    Seems like it's time to remind the President that the first amendment expressly forbids.... exactly what he's attempting to do: Use the power of government to deliberately exert a chilling effect on free speech. 

    You, personally, have every right to dislike this speech of the players ----- but you simply do not have the right to actually use the power of federal/state/local government to stop it.  No, you don't.

    I'll believe this move of the players merits one iota of actual concern when I see a fight in the stands because someone didn't take off their hat during the anthem.  What's that? It's never happened? Shocking.

    Just so it's clear.. this is directly another example of "big government" attempted intrusion.  It's not one side or the other that has a monopoly on it.  Instead of rallying against "All XYZ" who do something that "my side" would never do -- time to accept the reality that both do it.

    More directly back to the topic... Remember that MLK's movement was just as much economic as it was about the ballot box.

    @unsympathetic said:

    US soldiers swear to defend the Constitution first and foremost.  Their allegiance to the President is explicitly conditional to both regulations and the UCMJ.. and was not present in the oath until 1960, meaning their ONLY allegiance was to the Constitution up to that point.  [Linked is the actual oath that Army enlisted men take.  Read it - you might learn something..]

    Seems like it's time to remind the President that the first amendment expressly forbids.... exactly what he's attempting to do: Use the power of government to deliberately exert a chilling effect on free speech. 

    You, personally, have every right to dislike this speech of the players ----- but you simply do not have the right to actually use the power of federal/state/local government to stop it.  No, you don't.

    I'll believe this move of the players merits one iota of actual concern when I see a fight in the stands because someone didn't take off their hat during the anthem.  What's that? It's never happened? Shocking.

    Just so it's clear.. this is directly another example of "big government" attempted intrusion.  It's not one side or the other that has a monopoly on it.  Instead of rallying against "All XYZ" who do something that "my side" would never do -- time to accept the reality that both do it.

    More directly back to the topic... Remember that MLK's movement was just as much economic as it was about the ballot box.

    You're an asshole.  This is the oath of enlistment all branches take:


    The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted): 

    "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." 
     

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  • Here's where I stand on this. I hate when they kneel. I disagree not only with the approach but also the existence of the purported systemic injustice they are protesting. I am a mostly Republican and a definite conservative AND I BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION. You know, that piece of parchment that gives us FREEDOM of speech and expression. If you are a vet firstly thank you. Secondly whether you are a vet or support our vets you have to support freedom. We cannot only support freedom when  it aligns with our own opinion. The second we do we are no longer a free nation we are on the path to those we fight. Now often I hear people try to refute this based on the fact the players are working. I again have to disagree. If I were at work and they played an anthem I disagree with I'd sit and I would not be fired. That is a lot different than if you were on the clock giving speeches.  Now relative to the Presidents tweets I'm sorry but many of them are inappropriate. Hell I often agree with things he says and might expect myself to tweet it but not the leader of America!! He needs to grow the fuck up and act like a professional and president. I respect the office, agree with many of his policies but  his approach leaves a lot to be desired. 

    @jcam222 said:

    Here's where I stand on this. I hate when they kneel. I disagree not only with the approach but also the existence of the purported systemic injustice they are protesting. I am a mostly Republican and a definite conservative AND I BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION. You know, that piece of parchment that gives us FREEDOM of speech and expression. If you are a vet firstly thank you. Secondly whether you are a vet or support our vets you have to support freedom. We cannot only support freedom when  it aligns with our own opinion. 

    So... you are against the players who choose to speak, but you support the right of "people" to freely speak.  Except for the players, of course.. because to you, they aren't people any more.

    And you don't recognize the inherent contradiction between "supporting freedom when it doesn't align with your opinion" and "telling the players that they don't get to have an opinion" ?

    Got it!

    News flash: The fact that you only want to give the label of "people" to protest that you approve of...... shows that you don't actually believe one word you posted.

    The only issue at hand is whether or not you support governmental clampdowns on the expression of the players.  And frankly, if you do, everything you posted about believing in the constitution is complete and total bullshit.

  • @jcam222 said:

    Here's where I stand on this. I hate when they kneel. I disagree not only with the approach but also the existence of the purported systemic injustice they are protesting. I am a mostly Republican and a definite conservative AND I BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION. You know, that piece of parchment that gives us FREEDOM of speech and expression. If you are a vet firstly thank you. Secondly whether you are a vet or support our vets you have to support freedom. We cannot only support freedom when  it aligns with our own opinion. 

    So... you are against the players who choose to speak, but you support the right of "people" to freely speak.  Except for the players, of course.. because to you, they aren't people any more.

    And you don't recognize the inherent contradiction between "supporting freedom when it doesn't align with your opinion" and "telling the players that they don't get to have an opinion" ?

    Got it!

    News flash: The fact that you only want to give the label of "people" to protest that you approve of...... shows that you don't actually believe one word you posted.

    The only issue at hand is whether or not you support governmental clampdowns on the expression of the players.  And frankly, if you do, everything you posted about believing in the constitution is complete and total bullshit.

    @unsympathetic said:

    So... you are against the players who choose to speak, but you support the right of "people" to freely speak.  Except for the players, of course.. because to you, they aren't people any more.

    And you don't recognize the inherent contradiction between "supporting freedom when it doesn't align with your opinion" and "telling the players that they don't get to have an opinion" ?

    Got it!

    Nobody is waiting around for your acknowledgement of anything.  Your "acknowledgement" has no bearing on the validity of a protest.

    You have no power in this situation - none at all. 

    The only issue at hand is whether or not you support governmental clampdowns on their expression.  And frankly, if you do, everything you posted about believing in the constitution is complete and total bullshit.

    You're pathetic.

  • Heres my solution....let players walk back into the lockrroom for the anthem. Problem solved. They get their meaningless protest and all the little snowflake doturds who's brains go blue screen at the sight of a colored boy kneeling get a clean field of view. 

    Easy peasy....i should be emperor

    @clevfan4life said:

    i should be emperor

    I believe that job is currently occupado...

  • My 2 cents:

    The Jags and Rats protesting while in a foreign country borders on treason.

  • My 2 cents:

    The Jags and Rats protesting while in a foreign country borders on treason.

    @dusty said:

    My 2 cents:

    The Jags and Rats protesting while in a foreign country borders on treason.

    Probably best you only have 2 cents to spend then.  

  • My 2 cents:

    The Jags and Rats protesting while in a foreign country borders on treason.

    @dusty said:

    My 2 cents:

    The Jags and Rats protesting while in a foreign country borders on treason.

    U are an idiot. Dont question this either, just take it in an accept it as constructive criticism from ur lord and master. There isnt anything remotely treasonous about kneeling on some grass or locking arms........idiot boy. Discuss this internally with urself we'll come back to it later.

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  • @clevfan4life said:

    i should be emperor

    I believe that job is currently occupado...

    @tour2ma said:

    I believe that job is currently occupado...

    He's just "president"....pfffttt

  • Bad move by Trump here. The NFL has been quite strongly trying to push the "pledge" shit under the rug that the Mullatto man started and he brings it up again. Now Republican owners are pissed at him along with the other owners. Ouch.

  • What a mess.

    Thanks Trump.  You're a big freakin' help.

  • Bad move by Trump here. The NFL has been quite strongly trying to push the "pledge" shit under the rug that the Mullatto man started and he brings it up again. Now Republican owners are pissed at him along with the other owners. Ouch.

    @hempman said:

    Bad move by Trump here. The NFL has been quite strongly trying to push the "pledge" shit under the rug that the Mullatto man started and he brings it up again. Now Republican owners are pissed at him along with the other owners. Ouch.

    Precisely^^^

    from THE VERY BEGINNING i said here just leave kaepernick alone. Pay him no attn. But thats too much to ask. A colored boy has to be put in his place so ofc u hear this indignant slightly racially tinged rheyoric against him and now other players took up his cause just because it annoyed certain white folk.

    Now we have trump full on playing into that narrative and in essence proving what alot of the players were saying from the beginning. Now this thing is gonna have legs. Now athletes from other sports are getting involved. Good work there asshole

  • "trump is obviously a smart dude". Not based on his tweets, speeches, limited vocabulary, endless lies, or track record of epic business failures. He's always wrong and never sorry. That's the best way to describe him. he's not a leader and never was. Leaders take the blame when shit hits the fan. he points fingers and hurls insults, and that's happened since the 70's. What he's a genius at is conning suckers and riling up the rubes/rednecks. It's what got him elected.

    Regardless, he just throws gas on the fire with his Retarded tweets on these matters instead of diffusing them. It all goes back to his history of never admitting he made a mistake, lied about something, or that someone else had a good idea. The POTUS has better and much more important things to do than argue with NBA and NFL players over Twitter. The whole thing is beyond Retarded.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fuck them that kneel.  Serve your fucking country.

    The problem is that hundreds of people who were veterans even said publicly on the browns facebook page that they would quit watching if our players would kneel. Kenny Britt kneeled a lot last year (even when I saw the rams play).

    Remember, Jim Brown publicly told the Browns players not to kneel or disrespect the flag. Hue Jackson said publicly he "did not want our players protesting during the anthem". Does this say anything about Hue's control of the locker room, or do you think this will eventually calm down?

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/hue-jackson-does-not-want-to-see-browns-players-protest-during-anthem/

    @stillmotion said:

    The problem is that hundreds of people who were veterans even said publicly on the browns facebook page that they would quit watching if our players would kneel. Kenny Britt kneeled a lot last year (even when I saw the rams play).

    Remember, Jim Brown publicly told the Browns players not to kneel or disrespect the flag. Hue Jackson said publicly he "did not want our players protesting during the anthem". Does this say anything about Hue's control of the locker room, or do you think this will eventually calm down?

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/hue-jackson-does-not-want-to-see-browns-players-protest-during-anthem/

    Hue Jackson and Jim Brown come off as HUGE sellout, so fuck what Jim Brown has to say about the topic. His friends with that orange faced buffoon that actually supports Nazi and the KKK ideas. And no this topic isn't going away as police brutality against minorities is a VERY real thing (which the POTUS encourages once again). Unfortunately a lot of middle age white dudes would just rather turn the blind eye or pretend racism isn't a real thing, than talk about the issues on hand. Protests aren't suppose to be convenient or away from the public eye and the players have repeated said they support our troops and non-blacking beating police officers.

  • "trump is obviously a smart dude". Not based on his tweets, speeches, limited vocabulary, endless lies, or track record of epic business failures. He's always wrong and never sorry. That's the best way to describe him. he's not a leader and never was. Leaders take the blame when shit hits the fan. he points fingers and hurls insults, and that's happened since the 70's. What he's a genius at is conning suckers and riling up the rubes/rednecks. It's what got him elected.

    Regardless, he just throws gas on the fire with his Retarded tweets on these matters instead of diffusing them. It all goes back to his history of never admitting he made a mistake, lied about something, or that someone else had a good idea. The POTUS has better and much more important things to do than argue with NBA and NFL players over Twitter. The whole thing is beyond Retarded.

    @sd_tom said:

    "trump is obviously a smart dude". Not based on his tweets, speeches, limited vocabulary, endless lies, or track record of epic business failures. He's always wrong and never sorry. That's the best way to describe him. he's not a leader and never was. Leaders take the blame when shit hits the fan. he points fingers and hurls insults, and that's happened since the 70's. What he's a genius at is conning suckers and riling up the rubes/rednecks. It's what got him elected.

    Regardless, he just throws gas on the fire with his Retarded tweets on these matters instead of diffusing them. It all goes back to his history of never admitting he made a mistake, lied about something, or that someone else had a good idea. The POTUS has better and much more important things to do than argue with NBA and NFL players over Twitter. The whole thing is beyond Retarded.

    Welcome to the political board. We can always use another voice of reason in the season of The Great Pumpkin whom we have somehow elected president.😛

  • @jcam222 said:

    Here's where I stand on this. I hate when they kneel. I disagree not only with the approach but also the existence of the purported systemic injustice they are protesting. I am a mostly Republican and a definite conservative AND I BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION. You know, that piece of parchment that gives us FREEDOM of speech and expression. If you are a vet firstly thank you. Secondly whether you are a vet or support our vets you have to support freedom. We cannot only support freedom when  it aligns with our own opinion. 

    So... you are against the players who choose to speak, but you support the right of "people" to freely speak.  Except for the players, of course.. because to you, they aren't people any more.

    And you don't recognize the inherent contradiction between "supporting freedom when it doesn't align with your opinion" and "telling the players that they don't get to have an opinion" ?

    Got it!

    News flash: The fact that you only want to give the label of "people" to protest that you approve of...... shows that you don't actually believe one word you posted.

    The only issue at hand is whether or not you support governmental clampdowns on the expression of the players.  And frankly, if you do, everything you posted about believing in the constitution is complete and total bullshit.

    @unsympathetic said:

    So... you are against the players who choose to speak, but you support the right of "people" to freely speak.  Except for the players, of course.. because to you, they aren't people any more.

    And you don't recognize the inherent contradiction between "supporting freedom when it doesn't align with your opinion" and "telling the players that they don't get to have an opinion" ?

    Got it!

    News flash: The fact that you only want to give the label of "people" to protest that you approve of...... shows that you don't actually believe one word you posted.

    The only issue at hand is whether or not you support governmental clampdowns on the expression of the players.  And frankly, if you do, everything you posted about believing in the constitution is complete and total bullshit.

    How you got any of that from my post is beyond me. I think it's clear I support their right to protest even if I disagree with what they protest. I also made it clear I would never support the government forcing support. 

  • It's real simple weather they like trump or not he does not matter.  They are entertainers period.  We the people consume there product.  And the players just pissed off a lot off people me being one of them.  So I will not be watching anymore.  I believe in there freedom to protest on there own time.  But I'm against them being assholes. So as I said no more for me.