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  • @baconhound said:

    Hallam hired all these Clowns but yet he's the genius to fix it?  

    I didn't think there could be ownership as inept as the Lerners but leave it to the Browns to prove me wrong

    A hillbilly from Tennessee that can't even run a gas station. Now what can go wrong with that?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    A hillbilly from Tennessee that can't even run a gas station. Now what can go wrong with that?

    To be fair, he's very good at ripping people off.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    A hillbilly from Tennessee that can't even run a gas station. Now what can go wrong with that?

    To be fair, he's very good at ripping people off.

    @dutch-oven said:

    To be fair, he's very good at ripping people off.

    I have my doubts about that one too. All his upper execs were thieves, got caught but not a one has turned. Either he is the shrewdest or dumbest motherfucker out there. My opinion is the latter.

  • Have I mentioned I love our FO? Still do...

    Hue? After seeing McVay on TNF, I got pissed at Hue not going and sitting with his young QB. A 30 second "coaching job" as Kizer walks off the field passed him just ain't cutting it.

    Hue... buddy... go sit... look at the last series on the pad... talk to Kizer about what was, and then involve him in the thinking for the next series... getting his input as well. During the latter you can do what I saw you doing standing on the sideline... talking to your staff upstairs as well. But spend some time with the kid on Gameday.

    And about that game plan... started off OK... some read-option with the kid running a couple... a sweet, old-fashioned option call... but can we get under Center a little more? Work a lil dropback, PAP once we see some positive yards on the ground?

    And since you asked... yes, mix in Mayes some. Loving that use of Duke as a receiving weapon. Best one you have BTW... in case you didn't know.

  • Have I mentioned I love our FO? Still do...

    Hue? After seeing McVay on TNF, I got pissed at Hue not going and sitting with his young QB. A 30 second "coaching job" as Kizer walks off the field passed him just ain't cutting it.

    Hue... buddy... go sit... look at the last series on the pad... talk to Kizer about what was, and then involve him in the thinking for the next series... getting his input as well. During the latter you can do what I saw you doing standing on the sideline... talking to your staff upstairs as well. But spend some time with the kid on Gameday.

    And about that game plan... started off OK... some read-option with the kid running a couple... a sweet, old-fashioned option call... but can we get under Center a little more? Work a lil dropback, PAP once we see some positive yards on the ground?

    And since you asked... yes, mix in Mayes some. Loving that use of Duke as a receiving weapon. Best one you have BTW... in case you didn't know.

    @tour2ma said:

    Hue? After seeing McVay on TNF, I got pissed at Hue not going and sitting with his young QB. A 30 second "coaching job" as Kizer walks off the field passed him just ain't cutting it.

    Hue... buddy... go sit... look at the last series on the pad... talk to Kizer about what was, and then involve him in the thinking for the next series... getting his input as well. During the latter you can do what I saw you doing standing on the sideline... talking to your staff upstairs as well. But spend some time with the kid on Gameday.

    I agree 100%.  Coach him up right then and there....and impart your wisdom on/with him.  - Williams can run the D right?

    Brings me back to my question; who dubbed Hue a QB guru back when he was signing on with us?

  • @orion said:

    <<Whew!  He'd rather have no football team at all than have the gang we've got.>>

    My Mother is 89, having health issues and is on Hospice. I would rather she died than become comatose, catatonic or suffer dementia that left her my Mother in body only. Her wishes are the same. My views on life and living are different, and more mature than yours. And I don't mean to be condescending, but hear me out. I believe you are one of these people who is affected emotionally by how the Browns do on Sunday. I get excited when they play well or win, but my disposition doesn't change based on football. My mood, my outlook, etc. has absolutely nothing to do with how the Browns perform.

    Furthermore, my love for the Browns extends back to my first recollection of the team, I think when I was 6, 1960, we had a black and white Muntz TV. My love for the Browns is tied to Mom, Dad, and volumes and volumes of Browns games and events. Personally? Yeah, I would rather have the team move then have them ejaculate all over decades of wonderful memories.

    Other than you selfish need to get high off of fan-ship, please tell me what value this pile of shit has added to your life? What proud moments since 1999 can you hold your chest out about and have great credibility with fans of other teams, say, when you are in a sports bar? What strong emotional moments tie you to thie V 2.0 dung pile? This team should NEVER have been named the Browns. The owners have taken a free ride from team loyalty that neither man has ever toiled to earn. Fuck the Cleveland Browns V 2.0. This facade is NOT in any way, shape or form connected to the team I love.

    <<That certainly doesn't say much for Haslam and his crooked Pilot J's Flying Circus and the Harvard Think Tank that's running the team.  He even hates Williams, who actually has our D playing half decent.>>

    What the fuck is half decent? 0 - 2? Hey had a chance to shit the Steelers down, get the ball back and win. They didn't. They got ass fucked. I thought defense wins championships? Bullshit. Fuck WIlliams, he ain't shit.

    <<I have to admit that I'm not a big Hue fan......>>

    He has the likeness of both Hoorta and Flugel tattooed on his nutsack. Only those two blowtards like Hue. Hue is the worst coach in the history of the NFL.

    <<To the tradition:  We WERE  a respected franchise, with positive W/L statistics and team records.  But that all moved away to Baltimore (and a lot of the blame for that falls on city officials...and of course, Modell).  Now, we've ruined our positive W/L records against opponents...and the winningest QB in our home stadium is a Steeler.  (OMG...just saying that makes me want to jump off a cliff)>>

    And yet your immaturity is such that you want your team to continue getting ass phucked rather than having no football and getting your dignity back?

    <<We can't help but to ask ourselves, "What did we do to deserve this?"  >>

    I told Stan, the board owner that the biggest mistake Browns fans EVER made, was to make a stink, protest and get the NFL to leave the name "BROWNS" in Cleveland. By 1995, the Browns brand was already tarnished and had become somewhat of a joke. Modell should have kept the Baltimore Browns and Cleveland should have been awarded a new team. It's own team. That would have changed everything.

    If the new team was called The Cleveland Bulldogs, for instance, Lerner would not have automatically reaped the benefit of full house attendance; loyalty that he didn't do a single thing to benefit from. A new team would have had to build it's own legacy and following......... a REAL following. As it is, Lerner and Haslam raped the Browns fine history.

    <<None of US threw any bottles at the refs during bottlegate. >>

    Stan was followed, investigated by Lew Merletti (Fomrer CLinton security guy moved to Lerner), and made to give up his season tickets for allegedly throwing bottles. Something he admitted to online, albeit jokingly so. 

    And on top of all that, we now have the most hideous uniforms in the league...cos somebody thought THAT was a bright idea.

    <<OK, so....it's time to come in from the ledge.  We HAVE a football team to root for.  IMO, as bad as they are, it's better than having no team at all (but don't ask me to repeat that on a Sunday around 4pm).>>

    So, when you allow your gut and heart, and not your head to speak, you, too know that it would be better not to have this team.

    <<And Haslam IS TRYING.>>

    Based on what do you say that? He continually spends way under the cap, he drafts shit players, doesn't speak to the fans, and has given us a shit FO. Fuck Haslam.

    <<And one more thing that I think.....I think Bernie Kosar still posses one of the best football minds around and I wish that he had tons of money and could buy the team. >>

    And yet not one NFL team has offered him a job. 

    @ghoolie said:

    I think Bernie Kosar still posses one of the best football minds around and I wish that he had tons of money and could buy the team.

    >>

    And yet not one NFL team has offered him a job. 

    ...and do you think anyone else was going to offer Ozzie Newsome a job as GM?

    .....and everyone was pissed at Ozzie for moving with the team....and I was like, What?  The guy just made GM!  He HAS to move with his job!  He'd be a fool not to.

    I listened to Bernie explain what the Ravens do in the secondary in the days leading up to the game, and how it was going to pose real problems for the young QB Kizer to recognize.  And I hear him explain how adding a receiver like Macklin was really going to help their offense and I think to myself, we have guys in punt formation on OUR D...and our WR position is a mess.  Nope, nobody offered Bernie a job....but WE had a GM that didn't value drafting receivers cos they don't handle the ball enough.

  • @ghoolie said:

    I think Bernie Kosar still posses one of the best football minds around and I wish that he had tons of money and could buy the team.

    >>

    And yet not one NFL team has offered him a job. 

    ...and do you think anyone else was going to offer Ozzie Newsome a job as GM?

    .....and everyone was pissed at Ozzie for moving with the team....and I was like, What?  The guy just made GM!  He HAS to move with his job!  He'd be a fool not to.

    I listened to Bernie explain what the Ravens do in the secondary in the days leading up to the game, and how it was going to pose real problems for the young QB Kizer to recognize.  And I hear him explain how adding a receiver like Macklin was really going to help their offense and I think to myself, we have guys in punt formation on OUR D...and our WR position is a mess.  Nope, nobody offered Bernie a job....but WE had a GM that didn't value drafting receivers cos they don't handle the ball enough.

    @orion said:

    ...and do you think anyone else was going to offer Ozzie Newsome a job as GM?

    .....and everyone was pissed at Ozzie for moving with the team....and I was like, What?  The guy just made GM!  He HAS to move with his job!  He'd be a fool not to.

    I listened to Bernie explain what the Ravens do in the secondary in the days leading up to the game, and how it was going to pose real problems for the young QB Kizer to recognize.  And I hear him explain how adding a receiver like Macklin was really going to help their offense and I think to myself, we have guys in punt formation on OUR D...and our WR position is a mess.  Nope, nobody offered Bernie a job....but WE had a GM that didn't value drafting receivers cos they don't handle the ball enough

    I didn't quite get a read on your reaction, but I wanted to make sure you got the right read on mine. I have my issues with Kosar, mostly that when he had a lead he became a coward. That aside, he gave his body for the team he loved. As far as I am concerned that makes him more qualified to be a Browns executive than anyone we have ever hired since 1999.

    I could take a fuck up or two from Bernie, for at least he earned his right to fuck up. But Hue, DePo, Sashi, Haslam? Fuck those cocksuckers. I hope they all die tonight in their sleep.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Odds are that Hue is back next year.

    These GMs tend to want HCs who wont throw them under the bus when things go wrong.

    Ah, I just had a reply to Tour blow up on me Boo. 1-18 and counting. You can say last year was to be expected. Can any coach survive 4-28? I don't think so. 

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Odds are that Hue is back next year.

    These GMs tend to want HCs who wont throw them under the bus when things go wrong.

    Ah, I just had a reply to Tour blow up on me Boo. 1-18 and counting. You can say last year was to be expected. Can any coach survive 4-28? I don't think so. 

    @hoorta said:

    Ah, I just had a reply to Tour blow up on me Boo.

    Blow up? Cool... something to look forward to seeing...

    EDIT: Did I miss it, or did you have a change of heart?

  • C'mon, mud... be reasonable. He's only ruined two...

    Give him a chance to match his Daddy and ruin three... albeit one was from a DC role.

    @tour2ma said:

    C'mon, mud... be reasonable. He's only ruined two...

    Give him a chance to match his Daddy and ruin three... albeit one was from a DC role.

    Maybe Rex gets another DC job somewhere.  But not HC.  In this regard he could maybe be like Wade Phillips.

  • @tour2ma said:

    C'mon, mud... be reasonable. He's only ruined two...

    Give him a chance to match his Daddy and ruin three... albeit one was from a DC role.

    Maybe Rex gets another DC job somewhere.  But not HC.  In this regard he could maybe be like Wade Phillips.

    @the-gipper said:

    Maybe Rex gets another DC job somewhere.  But not HC.  In this regard he could maybe be like Wade Phillips.

    I think Rex is going to find out (like Gruden and Billick have) that it's a whole lot easier and better life working in the media than on the sidelines.  Less hours, less stress,  very close in the amount of money they're making and they never lose a game.  

  • @the-gipper said:

    Maybe Rex gets another DC job somewhere.  But not HC.  In this regard he could maybe be like Wade Phillips.

    I think Rex is going to find out (like Gruden and Billick have) that it's a whole lot easier and better life working in the media than on the sidelines.  Less hours, less stress,  very close in the amount of money they're making and they never lose a game.  

    @mark-o said:

    I think Rex is going to find out (like Gruden and Billick have) that it's a whole lot easier and better life working in the media than on the sidelines.  Less hours, less stress,  very close in the amount of money they're making and they never lose a game.  

    The difference may be that by all reports, Rex is really bad at it.  Maybe he can get better, maybe he has improved somewhat....but like I said, reports are that he fairly well sucks at it. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Ah, I just had a reply to Tour blow up on me Boo.

    Blow up? Cool... something to look forward to seeing...

    EDIT: Did I miss it, or did you have a change of heart?

    @tour2ma said:

    Blow up? Cool... something to look forward to seeing...

    EDIT: Did I miss it, or did you have a change of heart?

    Nope, I went to a "boo has quoted you" when I came back, what I wrote was gone. If I remember, I'll try again.

  • @mark-o said:

    I think Rex is going to find out (like Gruden and Billick have) that it's a whole lot easier and better life working in the media than on the sidelines.  Less hours, less stress,  very close in the amount of money they're making and they never lose a game.  

    The difference may be that by all reports, Rex is really bad at it.  Maybe he can get better, maybe he has improved somewhat....but like I said, reports are that he fairly well sucks at it. 

    @the-gipper said:

    The difference may be that by all reports, Rex is really bad at it.  Maybe he can get better, maybe he has improved somewhat....but like I said, reports are that he fairly well sucks at it. 

    He was horrible as a game analyst.   However what I saw of him on the ESPN pregame show on Sunday, he's pretty good as an in studio guy and has more time to get his points across.

  • Hue loses to Cinci.................he's done. If he isn't fired, the next home game you will hear crickets.

    I said it after his first pre-season game, Hue is a deer in the head lights, a coffee fetcher, a $15/hour protester,  an affirmative action pimp-ee. 1 - 18. LMAO.

  • Nah.  We aren't beating the Bengals.  

    And then the Jets & Texans have D's that will overmatch our offense.  We're staring down the barrel of 0-6.  Actually, it might be the Chargers give us our only win again.

    I don't think Haslam is gonna fire Hue however.  Perhaps at season's end.  But who freakin' knows anymore..........

  • Hue was Jimmy's last hire. The next one will be Dee and Sashi's. If that fails, then I think the sale comes. Hue was never a strong candidate. He was fired by the Davis's for a reason and it shows. He was considered one of the top coaching candidates in 2016(a weak crop for sure) but I was surprised he came here. He needed something established and not a total rebuild.

    HIs opening presser was weak and full of bs lingo.

  • Hue was Jimmy's last hire. The next one will be Dee and Sashi's. If that fails, then I think the sale comes. Hue was never a strong candidate. He was fired by the Davis's for a reason and it shows. He was considered one of the top coaching candidates in 2016(a weak crop for sure) but I was surprised he came here. He needed something established and not a total rebuild.

    HIs opening presser was weak and full of bs lingo.

    @hempman said:

    Hue was Jimmy's last hire. The next one will be Dee and Sashi's. If that fails, then I think the sale comes. Hue was never a strong candidate. He was fired by the Davis's for a reason and it shows. He was considered one of the top coaching candidates in 2016(a weak crop for sure) but I was surprised he came here. He needed something established and not a total rebuild.

    HIs opening presser was weak and full of bs lingo.

    Wow............ more mastering of the obvious. Hue Jackson is to coaching what Rosie Odonnel is to runway models.

    This team is a cluster fuck. Haslam................ PLEASE MOVE THIS ABORTION.

  • Maybe Haslim should try to hire Mike Holmgren back?

  • @hempman said:

    Hue was Jimmy's last hire. The next one will be Dee and Sashi's. If that fails, then I think the sale comes. Hue was never a strong candidate. He was fired by the Davis's for a reason and it shows. He was considered one of the top coaching candidates in 2016(a weak crop for sure) but I was surprised he came here. He needed something established and not a total rebuild.

    HIs opening presser was weak and full of bs lingo.

    Wow............ more mastering of the obvious. Hue Jackson is to coaching what Rosie Odonnel is to runway models.

    This team is a cluster fuck. Haslam................ PLEASE MOVE THIS ABORTION.

    @ghoolie said:

    Haslam................ PLEASE MOVE THIS ABORTION.

    No.  Don't listen to him.  Cleveland is a great football town.

    SELL the team.  Admit that you haven't a clue how to select good management.  (evidenced by your Pilot J's Flying Circus problems...and by your tenure as an owner of a football team)

  • Haslem has been a fucked up mess since he bought the team.....terrible hires(repeatedly).....inappropriate fires.....tampering with the draft, THEN firing people for it....etc etc etc....

    He has dug a hole so deep, he doesnt even know which way is out anymore........

    Lerner looks brilliant compared to this twat....