3 year plan
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Starting to think the Wentz trade was enough in 2016 to establish our draft capital.(very empty cabinets back then though) Problem is we traded down 5 more times in 2016 Draft. Passing on much needed better talent(maybe) from #8 to #15 is really my killer)..in 2017 Draft we traded down once (collecting a 1st) & up 3 times for Njoku,H.Wilson & Rod Johnson (hope for 2 out of 3 ain't bad)..
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WRs and RBs are among the easiest pieces to add, either thru the draft or FA.
This was the topic of conversation on the local sports radio today.
The Browns FO drafted 5 WRs last year, and still had to go sign Britt.
That is a huge indictment of their ability to evaluate talent.
If I was Jimmah, I would have my crosshairs on shitcanning the personnel department.
With as many draft picks as the Browns have had over the past 5 years, the talent cupboards are still pretty bare.
This was the topic of conversation on the local sports radio today. The Browns FO drafted 5 WRs last year, and still had to go sign Britt.
That is a huge indictment of their ability to evaluate talent. If I was Jimmah, I would have my crosshairs on shitcanning the personnel department.
With as many draft picks as the Browns have had over the past 5 years, the talent cupboards are still pretty bare.
I completely disagree with your action plan. When was the last time you looked at our past two drafts?
Year Rnd Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2017 1 Myles Garrett 1 DE 0 0 0 Texas A&M 2017 1 Jabrill Peppers 25 S 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Michigan 2017 1 David Njoku 29 TE 2017 0 0 0 0 3 7 59 2 Miami (FL) 2017 2 DeShone Kizer 52 QB 2017 0 0 0 0 3 57 108 646 3 7 17 87 2 Notre Dame 2017 3 Larry Ogunjobi 65 DT 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Charlotte 2017 4 Howard Wilson 126 CB 0 0 0 Houston 2017 5 Roderick Johnson 160 T 0 0 0 Florida St. 2017 6 Caleb Brantley 185 DT 2017 0 0 0 0 1 Florida 2017 7 Zane Gonzalez 224 K 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Arizona St. 2017 7 Matthew Dayes 252 RB 2017 0 0 0 0 3 3 7 0 2 9 0 North Carolina St. Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2016 1 Corey Coleman 15 WR 2017 0 0 1 3 12 2 10 0 39 475 4 Baylor 2016 2 Emmanuel Ogbah 32 DE 2017 0 0 1 7 19 6.5 Oklahoma St. 2016 3 Carl Nassib 65 DE 2017 0 0 0 2 17 3.5 Penn St. 2016 3 Shon Coleman 76 T 2017 0 0 0 0 10 Auburn 2016 3 Cody Kessler 93 QB 2016 0 0 1 3 9 128 195 1380 6 2 11 18 0 USC 2016 4 Joe Schobert 99 OLB 2017 0 0 0 2 19 1.0 Wisconsin 2016 4 Ricardo Louis 114 WR 2017 0 0 0 1 19 23 274 0 Auburn 2016 4 Derrick Kindred 129 FS 2017 0 0 0 2 15 1 TCU 2016 4 Seth Devalve 138 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 15 18 259 2 Princeton 2016 5 Jordan Payton 154 WR 2016 0 0 0 0 4 1 3 0 UCLA 2016 5 Spencer Drango 168 G 2017 0 0 1 4 19 Baylor 2016 5 Rashard Higgins 172 WR 2017 0 0 0 0 18 1 4 0 15 182 0 Colorado St. 2016 5 Trey Caldwell 173 DB 2016 0 0 0 0 1 La-Monroe 2016 7 Scooby Wright 250 ILB 2016 0 0 0 0 3 Arizona There's nine starters in that list... nine plus a Kicker. Two are injured including one of those "5 WRs". Another of those "5" is a starting TE who played WR at Princeton. Might be ten starters if Wilson was healthy. Nearly half of the team, the very young team, we are putting on the field.
So the other three WRs: Louis (R4), Payton (R5) and Higgins (R5)... you really want to turnover the FO for pehaps missing on a 4th and two 5ths? Really? Out of the weak 2016 WR class we tabbed an injured, but talented, 1st rounder plus three Day 3 guys who all may miss and you want to turnover the FO?
Here's the 2016 WR Class... throw your hindsight on this beauty and see who we missed... there ain't many. http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft/positions/_/id/1/year/2016
And then there's Britt... Had Pryor signed for what he is worth, we wouldn't have Britt. Of course, we'd be bitching about Pryor who is still at least three limbs short of a route tree. But he didn't sign with us for what he was worth and we had to turn to the FA market. So we only managed to attract a vet WR coming off a career year to our Mecca of a FA destination (#sarcasm) probably only because a DC who knew him preceded him to CLE.
I know it ain't easy, but chill... give the crew their third year. Personally I'll give them five, but we can start that discussion next year after they are back.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
This was the topic of conversation on the local sports radio today. The Browns FO drafted 5 WRs last year, and still had to go sign Britt.
That is a huge indictment of their ability to evaluate talent. If I was Jimmah, I would have my crosshairs on shitcanning the personnel department.
With as many draft picks as the Browns have had over the past 5 years, the talent cupboards are still pretty bare.
I completely disagree with your action plan. When was the last time you looked at our past two drafts?
Year Rnd Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2017 1 Myles Garrett 1 DE 0 0 0 Texas A&M 2017 1 Jabrill Peppers 25 S 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Michigan 2017 1 David Njoku 29 TE 2017 0 0 0 0 3 7 59 2 Miami (FL) 2017 2 DeShone Kizer 52 QB 2017 0 0 0 0 3 57 108 646 3 7 17 87 2 Notre Dame 2017 3 Larry Ogunjobi 65 DT 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Charlotte 2017 4 Howard Wilson 126 CB 0 0 0 Houston 2017 5 Roderick Johnson 160 T 0 0 0 Florida St. 2017 6 Caleb Brantley 185 DT 2017 0 0 0 0 1 Florida 2017 7 Zane Gonzalez 224 K 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Arizona St. 2017 7 Matthew Dayes 252 RB 2017 0 0 0 0 3 3 7 0 2 9 0 North Carolina St. Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2016 1 Corey Coleman 15 WR 2017 0 0 1 3 12 2 10 0 39 475 4 Baylor 2016 2 Emmanuel Ogbah 32 DE 2017 0 0 1 7 19 6.5 Oklahoma St. 2016 3 Carl Nassib 65 DE 2017 0 0 0 2 17 3.5 Penn St. 2016 3 Shon Coleman 76 T 2017 0 0 0 0 10 Auburn 2016 3 Cody Kessler 93 QB 2016 0 0 1 3 9 128 195 1380 6 2 11 18 0 USC 2016 4 Joe Schobert 99 OLB 2017 0 0 0 2 19 1.0 Wisconsin 2016 4 Ricardo Louis 114 WR 2017 0 0 0 1 19 23 274 0 Auburn 2016 4 Derrick Kindred 129 FS 2017 0 0 0 2 15 1 TCU 2016 4 Seth Devalve 138 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 15 18 259 2 Princeton 2016 5 Jordan Payton 154 WR 2016 0 0 0 0 4 1 3 0 UCLA 2016 5 Spencer Drango 168 G 2017 0 0 1 4 19 Baylor 2016 5 Rashard Higgins 172 WR 2017 0 0 0 0 18 1 4 0 15 182 0 Colorado St. 2016 5 Trey Caldwell 173 DB 2016 0 0 0 0 1 La-Monroe 2016 7 Scooby Wright 250 ILB 2016 0 0 0 0 3 Arizona There's nine starters in that list... nine plus a Kicker. Two are injured including one of those "5 WRs". Another of those "5" is a starting TE who played WR at Princeton. Might be ten starters if Wilson was healthy. Nearly half of the team, the very young team, we are putting on the field.
So the other three WRs: Louis (R4), Payton (R5) and Higgins (R5)... you really want to turnover the FO for pehaps missing on a 4th and two 5ths? Really? Out of the weak 2016 WR class we tabbed an injured, but talented, 1st rounder plus three Day 3 guys who all may miss and you want to turnover the FO?
Here's the 2016 WR Class... throw your hindsight on this beauty and see who we missed... there ain't many. http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft/positions/_/id/1/year/2016
And then there's Britt... Had Pryor signed for what he is worth, we wouldn't have Britt. Of course, we'd be bitching about Pryor who is still at least three limbs short of a route tree. But he didn't sign with us for what he was worth and we had to turn to the FA market. So we only managed to attract a vet WR coming off a career year to our Mecca of a FA destination (#sarcasm) probably only because a DC who knew him preceded him to CLE.
I know it ain't easy, but chill... give the crew their third year. Personally I'll give them five, but we can start that discussion next year after they are back.
I completely disagree with your action plan. When was the last time you looked at our past two drafts?
Year Rnd Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2017 1 Myles Garrett 1 DE 0 0 0 Texas A&M 2017 1 Jabrill Peppers 25 S 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Michigan 2017 1 David Njoku 29 TE 2017 0 0 0 0 3 7 59 2 Miami (FL) 2017 2 DeShone Kizer 52 QB 2017 0 0 0 0 3 57 108 646 3 7 17 87 2 Notre Dame 2017 3 Larry Ogunjobi 65 DT 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Charlotte 2017 4 Howard Wilson 126 CB 0 0 0 Houston 2017 5 Roderick Johnson 160 T 0 0 0 Florida St. 2017 6 Caleb Brantley 185 DT 2017 0 0 0 0 1 Florida 2017 7 Zane Gonzalez 224 K 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Arizona St. 2017 7 Matthew Dayes 252 RB 2017 0 0 0 0 3 3 7 0 2 9 0 North Carolina St. Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2016 1 Corey Coleman 15 WR 2017 0 0 1 3 12 2 10 0 39 475 4 Baylor 2016 2 Emmanuel Ogbah 32 DE 2017 0 0 1 7 19 6.5 Oklahoma St. 2016 3 Carl Nassib 65 DE 2017 0 0 0 2 17 3.5 Penn St. 2016 3 Shon Coleman 76 T 2017 0 0 0 0 10 Auburn 2016 3 Cody Kessler 93 QB 2016 0 0 1 3 9 128 195 1380 6 2 11 18 0 USC 2016 4 Joe Schobert 99 OLB 2017 0 0 0 2 19 1.0 Wisconsin 2016 4 Ricardo Louis 114 WR 2017 0 0 0 1 19 23 274 0 Auburn 2016 4 Derrick Kindred 129 FS 2017 0 0 0 2 15 1 TCU 2016 4 Seth Devalve 138 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 15 18 259 2 Princeton 2016 5 Jordan Payton 154 WR 2016 0 0 0 0 4 1 3 0 UCLA 2016 5 Spencer Drango 168 G 2017 0 0 1 4 19 Baylor 2016 5 Rashard Higgins 172 WR 2017 0 0 0 0 18 1 4 0 15 182 0 Colorado St. 2016 5 Trey Caldwell 173 DB 2016 0 0 0 0 1 La-Monroe 2016 7 Scooby Wright 250 ILB 2016 0 0 0 0 3 Arizona There's nine starters in that list... nine plus a Kicker. Two are injured including one of those "5 WRs". Another of those "5" is a starting TE who played WR at Princeton. Might be ten starters if Wilson was healthy. Nearly half of the team, the very young team, we are putting on the field.
So the other three WRs: Louis (R4), Payton (R5) and Higgins (R5)... you really want to turnover the FO for pehaps missing on a 4th and two 5ths? Really? Out of the weak 2016 WR class we tabbed an injured, but talented, 1st rounder plus three Day 3 guys who all may miss and you want to turnover the FO?
Here's the 2016 WR Class... throw your hindsight on this beauty and see who we missed... there ain't many. http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft/positions/_/id/1/year/2016
And then there's Britt... Had Pryor signed for what he is worth, we wouldn't have Britt. Of course, we'd be bitching about Pryor who is still at least three limbs short of a route tree. But he didn't sign with us for what he was worth and we had to turn to the FA market. So we only managed to attract a vet WR coming off a career year to our Mecca of a FA destination (#sarcasm) probably only because a DC who knew him preceded him to CLE.
I know it ain't easy, but chill... give the crew their third year. Personally I'll give them five, but we can start that discussion next year after they are back.
I think a number of these players may start to pay dividends as early as around the middle of this season.
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I completely disagree with your action plan. When was the last time you looked at our past two drafts?
Year Rnd Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2017 1 Myles Garrett 1 DE 0 0 0 Texas A&M 2017 1 Jabrill Peppers 25 S 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Michigan 2017 1 David Njoku 29 TE 2017 0 0 0 0 3 7 59 2 Miami (FL) 2017 2 DeShone Kizer 52 QB 2017 0 0 0 0 3 57 108 646 3 7 17 87 2 Notre Dame 2017 3 Larry Ogunjobi 65 DT 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Charlotte 2017 4 Howard Wilson 126 CB 0 0 0 Houston 2017 5 Roderick Johnson 160 T 0 0 0 Florida St. 2017 6 Caleb Brantley 185 DT 2017 0 0 0 0 1 Florida 2017 7 Zane Gonzalez 224 K 2017 0 0 0 0 3 Arizona St. 2017 7 Matthew Dayes 252 RB 2017 0 0 0 0 3 3 7 0 2 9 0 North Carolina St. Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2016 1 Corey Coleman 15 WR 2017 0 0 1 3 12 2 10 0 39 475 4 Baylor 2016 2 Emmanuel Ogbah 32 DE 2017 0 0 1 7 19 6.5 Oklahoma St. 2016 3 Carl Nassib 65 DE 2017 0 0 0 2 17 3.5 Penn St. 2016 3 Shon Coleman 76 T 2017 0 0 0 0 10 Auburn 2016 3 Cody Kessler 93 QB 2016 0 0 1 3 9 128 195 1380 6 2 11 18 0 USC 2016 4 Joe Schobert 99 OLB 2017 0 0 0 2 19 1.0 Wisconsin 2016 4 Ricardo Louis 114 WR 2017 0 0 0 1 19 23 274 0 Auburn 2016 4 Derrick Kindred 129 FS 2017 0 0 0 2 15 1 TCU 2016 4 Seth Devalve 138 TE 2017 0 0 0 1 15 18 259 2 Princeton 2016 5 Jordan Payton 154 WR 2016 0 0 0 0 4 1 3 0 UCLA 2016 5 Spencer Drango 168 G 2017 0 0 1 4 19 Baylor 2016 5 Rashard Higgins 172 WR 2017 0 0 0 0 18 1 4 0 15 182 0 Colorado St. 2016 5 Trey Caldwell 173 DB 2016 0 0 0 0 1 La-Monroe 2016 7 Scooby Wright 250 ILB 2016 0 0 0 0 3 Arizona There's nine starters in that list... nine plus a Kicker. Two are injured including one of those "5 WRs". Another of those "5" is a starting TE who played WR at Princeton. Might be ten starters if Wilson was healthy. Nearly half of the team, the very young team, we are putting on the field.
So the other three WRs: Louis (R4), Payton (R5) and Higgins (R5)... you really want to turnover the FO for pehaps missing on a 4th and two 5ths? Really? Out of the weak 2016 WR class we tabbed an injured, but talented, 1st rounder plus three Day 3 guys who all may miss and you want to turnover the FO?
Here's the 2016 WR Class... throw your hindsight on this beauty and see who we missed... there ain't many. http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft/positions/_/id/1/year/2016
And then there's Britt... Had Pryor signed for what he is worth, we wouldn't have Britt. Of course, we'd be bitching about Pryor who is still at least three limbs short of a route tree. But he didn't sign with us for what he was worth and we had to turn to the FA market. So we only managed to attract a vet WR coming off a career year to our Mecca of a FA destination (#sarcasm) probably only because a DC who knew him preceded him to CLE.
I know it ain't easy, but chill... give the crew their third year. Personally I'll give them five, but we can start that discussion next year after they are back.
I think a number of these players may start to pay dividends as early as around the middle of this season.
I think a number of these players may start to pay dividends as early as around the middle of this season.
I want to see how this team operates with everyone at 100% both sides of the ball. A defense that improves with Garrett and Collins in full form and a rookie QB that learns from mistakes and works on weaknesses could very well be the difference between winning and losing.
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I think a number of these players may start to pay dividends as early as around the middle of this season.
I want to see how this team operates with everyone at 100% both sides of the ball. A defense that improves with Garrett and Collins in full form and a rookie QB that learns from mistakes and works on weaknesses could very well be the difference between winning and losing.
I want to see how this team operates with everyone at 100% both sides of the ball. A defense that improves with Garrett and Collins in full form and a rookie QB that learns from mistakes and works on weaknesses could very well be the difference between winning and losing.
And see how they play with an actual lead at some point....where they should be better at running the ball. I don't know, however, if there is anything that can be done with this receiving corps....unless the signings of Coates, Williams, and Leslie begin to pay dividends.
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Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?
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Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?
WSS
Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?
WSS
5 years ago!
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If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?
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Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?
WSS
Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?
WSS
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If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?
If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?
I agree. That is the very heart of the Browns problem.
WSS
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If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?
If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?
Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
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If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?
Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
I’ve been saying this for years.
I was against the firing of Mancini, Chud, and Pettine.
However, I’m not against getting rid of a FO that can’t draft worth a dam.
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Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
I’ve been saying this for years.
I was against the firing of Mancini, Chud, and Pettine.
However, I’m not against getting rid of a FO that can’t draft worth a dam.
I’ve been saying this for years.
I was against the firing of Mancini, Chud, and Pettine.
However, I’m not against getting rid of a FO that can’t draft worth a dam.
Right...exactly.....I also defended those coaches and railed for FO changes, while leaving the coaching staffs intact.....But the prevailing argument was always that the FO needed to install "their guy", whatever the f%$k that means......(as if these FO's have some special HC up their sleeves they've been wanting)
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If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?
Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
And these guys probably understand that they are going to miss on a number of these draft picks....thus they believe in quantity. Though....how many of the 22 picks they have made actually been let go? Maybe 1 guy?
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If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?
Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
@boo-fagley said:
All Kizer needs to do is manage the game right now. Dont turn the ball over and take your shots when its a slam dunk.
Great recipe... for a team with a strong run game and staunch D. Is that how you see us?
Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
When did our paths diverge?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
@boo-fagley said:
All Kizer needs to do is manage the game right now. Dont turn the ball over and take your shots when its a slam dunk.
Great recipe... for a team with a strong run game and staunch D. Is that how you see us?
Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....
In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....
When did our paths diverge?
When did our paths diverge?
When we hired Hue, Shashi and Depo at exactly the same moment that I decided I could no longer tolerate losing and would no longer blindly follow.....
I still love your takes(tho I know mine are a bit grating for you).....but Ive just decided on focusing on what this team needs to do to improve(which are weaknesses and flaws), as opposed to digging for and cheer leading the few good things that are happening....(did that for years.....decades even)
We need eyes on both sides of the fence, even though many dont like to hear it.....
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