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  • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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      This poll is already flawed; there's no option for D) None of the above. I don't think any of these turds can push us to the next level.

      "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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        OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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        I know this is hard for you to swallow...but...Keizer is our QB.  He is the one with the unknown ceiling.  He has shown signs of progressing and it's only been 3 games.  Only if DeShone quits throwing the ball long will Hue bench him.

        As far as the OC.  I voted no.  Because Hue wants to run HIS offense and call the plays.  This is not abnormal for HC's from the offensive side of the ball.  Do I agree with his play calling all the time?  Hell no.  Especially down inside the 5 yard line.  But you're never going to agree with every play ANY play caller calls.  His clock management is suspect also (especially last year's Cincy game just before the half).  But he's what we've got...and we've had worse (unless you talk to the Ghoul).

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          PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by PoeticG
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          This really is about who 'The Fans' want to see as QB.

          You have your opinion and I respect that. But it is just your opinion.

          We may not know how high Kizer's ceiling is but then again, we don't really know how high Hogan's goes either. 

          Hogan is just as big as Kizer, just as fast- actually, Hogan is faster. He jumps higher, has a longer broad jump and dusted Kizer in the 3 cone drill- in fact he ran it just as fast as the 'golden boy' Carson Wentz, an actual first round QB.

          I know it's hard for you to swallow but Hogan is the best Quarterback we have. He throws better. He manages the huddle better. He's better under center. He's more accurate... I could go on but- eh, who cares about the facts, this is QB Cleveland Brother!

          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            No, this is a poll where you get to show your love for Hogan and try to justify by getting others to vote for him too 

            Kizer is the QB.Dont switch.

            I didn't see an option for Trent Richardson either...

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              "We'll dance with the ones that brung us."-DKRoyal

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                This really is about who 'The Fans' want to see as QB.

                You have your opinion and I respect that. But it is just your opinion.

                We may not know how high Kizer's ceiling is but then again, we don't really know how high Hogan's goes either. 

                Hogan is just as big as Kizer, just as fast- actually, Hogan is faster. He jumps higher, has a longer broad jump and dusted Kizer in the 3 cone drill- in fact he ran it just as fast as the 'golden boy' Carson Wentz, an actual first round QB.

                I know it's hard for you to swallow but Hogan is the best Quarterback we have. He throws better. He manages the huddle better. He's better under center. He's more accurate... I could go on but- eh, who cares about the facts, this is QB Cleveland Brother!

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                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                @poeticg said:

                I know it's hard for you to swallow but Hogan is the best Quarterback we have. He throws better. He manages the huddle better. He's better under center. He's more accurate... I could go on but- eh, who cares about the facts, this is QB Cleveland Brother!

                Know your own Fairy Tales Poe..Hogan was cut in KC to get to PS..Hogan never passed waivers..My granddaughters love this movie.I love the Title.

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                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                  PoG I have a "pole" for you:

                  Hogan's loads:

                  A) Delicious

                  B ) Scrumptious 

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    Just took the poll and saw the results...

                    Words of wisdom, Po... "Be careful what you ask (for)."

                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                      MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                      Right....dont see any of the 3 as good enough to win with....all have their short comings.....

                      But...based purely upon their stats as players for the Browns..... Kessler would be the logical choice....

                      Comparing his rookie numbers to Kizers rookie numbers, Kessler performed much better......and, while we lambasted him for his dink & dunk avoidance of the long ball....he still maintained a higher avg yds per pass than Kizer.....i attribute this to his MUCH better completion percentage, which was 15% higher than Kizers.....

                      So....while Kizer throws more downfield.....he completes so few that Kessler actually has higher avgs.....

                      Hogan?.....appears to move the ball better than both Kizer or Kessler.....but we really haven't seen enough to know.....but, at least in preseason, he was WAY better than the others......

                      If Kizer digresses more (which he has each game).....Id consider benching him and playing one of the others.....probably Hogan

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                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                        Kizer is only doing what Kessler would not do, which is follow the dictates to throw long coming from Hue. If The Kaiser goes off "plan" he will also get benched. Hue is a hard headed OC.

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                          PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                          The Chiefs had Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Tyler Bray, Aaron Murray and Kevin Hogan. Imagine how much time they actually got to evaluate him with five QBs on the roster.

                          Now, If Kizer struggles early - Please put Hogan in with enough time on the clock that we can still win the game because we have a chance to salvage the season with a victory.  

                          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            Hogan with Manziel as back up.  Trent as RB with Gordon WR.  

                            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                              PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                              Manziel? Richardson? What the literal Shmuck are you talking about? 

                              The Browns MUST win this game at all costs today. The loser of this game is done for the year. So forgive me for wanting to see the QB that gives us the best chance to win. 

                              I'm not willing to take L's for the fun of it.

                              The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                                Manziel? Richardson? What the literal Shmuck are you talking about? 

                                The Browns MUST win this game at all costs today. The loser of this game is done for the year. So forgive me for wanting to see the QB that gives us the best chance to win. 

                                I'm not willing to take L's for the fun of it.

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                                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                @poeticg said:

                                The Browns MUST win this game at all costs today. The loser of this game is done for the year. 

                                You tell'em Poe'dawg!! Quit eating them Pound-Cakes.& .Lets see some of that Pan'Cakin Eat'n Mofo's upfront

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                                  PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                                  I've seen enough of Kizer. 

                                  Bring out that Franchise QB that is backing up this bum.

                                  The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                    PoG was right about Derek Carr

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                                      PoG was right about Derek Carr

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                                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                      @bbedward said:

                                      PoG was right about Derek Carr

                                      He predicted a 13-3 Browns team this year.

                                      I want everyone to think about that for a moment or 500.

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                                        PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                                        I predicted a 13-3 under an assumed notion that we would play the best QB and actually try to win games. 

                                        Under Hogan this team is 4-0. 

                                        The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                                          I predicted a 13-3 under an assumed notion that we would play the best QB and actually try to win games. 

                                          Under Hogan this team is 4-0. 

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @poeticg said:

                                          I predicted a 13-3 under an assumed notion that we would play the best QB and actually try to win games. 

                                          Under Hogan this team is 4-0. 

                                          Oh god Shmuck off

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