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  • I liked watson better than kizer, liked trubinsky the most, but was totally stoked we traded down from 12. I just love trading down so much. It's so exciting and fun.

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  • L LondonBrown

    Let’s see how he does when the game film adds up before anointing him as the second coming of Montana

    @londonbrown said:

    Let’s see how he does when the game film adds up before anointing him as the second coming of Montana

    Yup... he was "the most NFL ready". Far cry from being the best. Played great today, however... no denying it.

    As far as self-congratulatory posts... a lot more credible if they are made before a potential breakout game.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • We'll forever be linked to multiple QBs we passed over, fair or not. Right now, we're such a crap show that I'm having difficulty writing this without cursing up a storm. I absolutely hate our team. Hate watching our lack of talent, our head scratching plays, our incredible awfulness. 

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  • He's looked good since he became starter. They were close to beating the Patriots last week. He's simply a leader and a winner. 

  • S SD_Tom

    He's looked good since he became starter. They were close to beating the Patriots last week. He's simply a leader and a winner. 

    For several I don't think it was his lack of arm.   

    For myself it was the offense he played in college and just not seeing some of the mental aspects check marked that I like seeing.  I.E - I feel he still needs to refine his progressions.  

    Oh and rule #1 on drafting a QB,  if your first words about him are "playmaker"  "leader" "winner" "gunslinger"  "it factor" "football player"   then you shouldn't be drafting said QB that high.  

    @sd_tom said:

    He's looked good since he became starter. They were close to beating the Patriots last week. He's simply a leader and a winner. 

  • Yep...I hated him less than most.....but really didnt see any of the top 4 as being high first round talents.....and, so far, stand by that...

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  • Overreaction Sunday

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.

  • H Hempman

    Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.

    @hempman said:

    Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.

    Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @hempman said:

    Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.

    Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....

    @mudfly said:

    Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....

    He didn't start the season.  He came in after savage went down I think. His lone loss as starter was to NE on another Brady comeback I think.    In college,  almost seemed that he found a way to win big games while Kizer found a way to lose them.  

    Regardless... It's sad when your entire qb roster on an NFL team has zero wins.  Ridiculous 

  • Yeah inwasnt really high on any wb's last draft but IF we had to take one it had to be watson was my thoughts. I mean he sat in the pocket and smoked alabama for the nat champ right? Combine be damned.

    still, stop shitting on kizer. He's not just a rookie he's green as Shmuck. He likely needed another 1-2 years in college but obviously his relationship with kelly melted and he wasnt going to sit for a year to transfer, so he came out in the draft

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Yep...I hated him less than most.....but really didnt see any of the top 4 as being high first round talents.....and, so far, stand by that...

    @mudfly said:

    Yep...I hated him less than most.....but really didnt see any of the top 4 as being high first round talents.....and, so far, stand by that...

    We still have this in common...

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  • These kinds of useless posts always spring up after someone has a big game. Then they disappear when said player comes back down to earth.

    Give Kizer DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller and the Houston defense and let’s see how well he does.

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @hempman said:

    Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.

    Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....

    @mudfly said:

    Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....

    Damn, this is telling.

    I'm thinking Hue is full of Sheet with his "you have to trust me" about Kessler.

    I think > Jimmy tells FO to get the players with the highest upside for as cheap as possible > FO talks to GM and formulates a plan, doesn't want to take a QB #1 because if he fails, it's their asses > FO tells head coach this plan, that we want a young "analytics driven team". Hue doesn't seemed thrilled about it, but agrees and sticks with it. Fast forward, the Browns keep cutting and getting rid of veterans over and over again to save more money. They use Dpud's strategy of acquiring mass picks, but don't have much knowledge on actually picking talent. Jimmy is afraid of resigning a STUD qb or WR like Julio Jones, Tom Brady, ect, and would rather get a decent 8-8 or 9-7 team and barely slide into the playoffs while he makes money and pays under a million a year to most of our players.

    Meanwhile, veterans like Collins are dissuaded because we have so little talent to work with. Kenny Britt looks at it like he was already paid and that we have a rookie QB that can't throw yet anyway, so he half asses it. If they cut him, he's still paid. We should've signed Kenny Britt to a one year deal. I'm perplexed how much we paid him. 

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    These kinds of useless posts always spring up after someone has a big game. Then they disappear when said player comes back down to earth.

    Give Kizer DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller and the Houston defense and let’s see how well he does.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    These kinds of useless posts always spring up after someone has a big game. Then they disappear when said player comes back down to earth.

    Give Kizer DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller and the Houston defense and let’s see how well he does.

    Watson is more experienced and a better passer than Kizer. I don't see kizer putting up five touchdowns in a game yet, even on that team. Dude holds onto the ball too long.

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  • stillmotionS stillmotion

    @mudfly said:

    Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....

    Damn, this is telling.

    I'm thinking Hue is full of Sheet with his "you have to trust me" about Kessler.

    I think > Jimmy tells FO to get the players with the highest upside for as cheap as possible > FO talks to GM and formulates a plan, doesn't want to take a QB #1 because if he fails, it's their asses > FO tells head coach this plan, that we want a young "analytics driven team". Hue doesn't seemed thrilled about it, but agrees and sticks with it. Fast forward, the Browns keep cutting and getting rid of veterans over and over again to save more money. They use Dpud's strategy of acquiring mass picks, but don't have much knowledge on actually picking talent. Jimmy is afraid of resigning a STUD qb or WR like Julio Jones, Tom Brady, ect, and would rather get a decent 8-8 or 9-7 team and barely slide into the playoffs while he makes money and pays under a million a year to most of our players.

    Meanwhile, veterans like Collins are dissuaded because we have so little talent to work with. Kenny Britt looks at it like he was already paid and that we have a rookie QB that can't throw yet anyway, so he half asses it. If they cut him, he's still paid. We should've signed Kenny Britt to a one year deal. I'm perplexed how much we paid him. 

    @stillmotion said:

    Jimmy is afraid of resigning a STUD qb or WR like Julio Jones, Tom Brady, ect, and would rather get a decent 8-8 or 9-7 team and barely slide into the playoffs while he makes money and pays under a million a year to most of our players.

    So how does Brock' s salary fit that equation

  • LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13

    @stillmotion said:

    Jimmy is afraid of resigning a STUD qb or WR like Julio Jones, Tom Brady, ect, and would rather get a decent 8-8 or 9-7 team and barely slide into the playoffs while he makes money and pays under a million a year to most of our players.

    So how does Brock' s salary fit that equation

    @lcdawgfan13 said:

    So how does Brock' s salary fit that equation

    we traded for the draft pick. and we cut people like haden so jimmy couple recoup the money we spent on the second round draft pick.

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  • Watch after Houston beats NE [whose defense would get shredded by Ohio State's offense at this point] next week and all the accolades start coming in to Watson.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • stillmotionS stillmotion

    @lcdawgfan13 said:

    So how does Brock' s salary fit that equation

    we traded for the draft pick. and we cut people like haden so jimmy couple recoup the money we spent on the second round draft pick.

    @stillmotion said:

    we traded for the draft pick. and we cut people like haden so jimmy couple recoup the money we spent on the second round draft pick.

    Haden would've been gone regardless. Yes... we wanted the pick, but to spend that much money for 2nd round pick doesn't scream out "Hey I'm afraid to spend money!" 

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