The Governator

[heckofajobbrownie]

California's problems are pretty unique to California.

[Mr. T]

How many illegal alien live in California? They are bankrupting the state with all the freebees.

[heckofajobbrownie]

That's not exactly it, but whatever helps you think what you already want to think.

[Mr. T]

No! but you have to agree that it is very taxing on the state government.

[Westside Steve]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

That's not exactly it, but whatever helps you think what you already want to think.

C'mon Heck, it's gotta have some effect wpuldn't you say?

WSS

[Kosar_For_President]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

California's problems are pretty unique to California.

I am not so sure about this. I mean your probably right here knowing that CA already got a handout and wants more. But I would think there are more states out there like this, no?

[Kosar_For_President]

@danamal said:

I am not so sure about this. I mean your probably right here knowing that CA already got a handout and wants more. But I would think there are more states out there like this, no?

The closest state in terms of volume verses revenue that comes to mind is New Jersey.

They take in huge sums of money on tolls everywhere,highest property taxes in the country,highest auto insurance premiums,and taxes from the casinos in atlantic city and yet they are always crying broke.

If their is any state in the country that should be in the black its New Jersey.

Ohio might be poor as shit, but things are pretty cheap here at least compared to NC, VA and CO.

[ballpeen]

@danamal said:

I am not so sure about this. I mean your probably right here knowing that CA already got a handout and wants more. But I would think there are more states out there like this, no?

The closest state in terms of volume verses revenue that comes to mind is New Jersey.

They take in huge sums of money on tolls everywhere,highest property taxes in the country,highest auto insurance premiums,and taxes from the casinos in atlantic city and yet they are always crying broke.

If their is any state in the country that should be in the black its New Jersey.

Good point.

The state is always broke from supporting all the people who are broke from paying tolls, high property tax and insurance rates, then losing money in the casinos.

Kind of like the U.S.S.R. was always broke.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Steve, sure it has some effect. Illegal immigration also has a lot of benefits, mostly in the form of lower priced goods and services. Californians pay out in services for illegals, and also use them to save millions on child care, construction, landscaping, restaurants, etc. You can't only note the costs of something. It's like screaming your head off about all the money the Browns pay Brady Quinn and Braylon Edwards without noting that they also play football for them on Sundays and fill the seats with fans.

Anyone who says California has a budget problem because it's got a lot of illegals earning freebies doesn't understand much about California's budget problems. More likely, they just don't like illegal immigrants.

I'd point you to the disaster that is the California ballot initiative process before I'd start worrying about illegals. So much of the state budget can't be touched because here we let citizens/interest groups decide much of it, not elected representatives. It's insane.

Then you'd probably want to know about Prop 13.

[ballpeen]

@danamal said:

Well Peen since you want to go down that road you may as well throw in they have a democrat governor and the last governor was also a democrat and a homo to boot!

LOL....hadn't kept track. To be honest, i don't really care what New Jersey does...been there once before and don't anticipate ever going again.

it's like the old joke...

Why do New Yorkers have such negative attitude??

New Jersey is the light at the end of the tunnel.