"Read a lot into it. Quinn on track to be the starter"
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Again....I think some on here are like dogs and Lums is the Master.
Many of you call him out before he even says a word.
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Again....I think some on here are like dogs and Lums is the Master.
Many of you call him out before he even says a word.
Again....I think some on here are like dogs and Lums is the Master.
Many of you call him out before he even says a word.
Weird how you always seem to come running to point this out.
I'm wondering who is the dog...or maybe you're his master.
New rumor. Ballpeen is Lums puppet master.
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Weird how you always seem to come running to point this out.
I'm wondering who is the dog...or maybe you're his master.
New rumor. Ballpeen is Lums puppet master.
I have only said it once before, and the best I recall is you replied after Lum, so the comment doesn't even apply to you.
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@shepwrite said:
Wish I understood the dog-owner blurbs. I don't get it. We're engaging in the #1 football board practice, debating a quarterback "competition." It's what we do.'Peen, you do a lot of good stuff here. I think this one is a miss.
It isn't to call people dogs my friend. It just seems odd people who seem to not like the guy are almost conditioned to be preemptive in their actions, or that is simply their motivation.....I understand some like smack talk on a message board.
Who cares....Lums likes Anderson and isn't afraid to say so. Maybe the motivation is he doesn't like Quinn...again...so what
I agree with many....unless Quinn really fouls up somehow or Anderson finds something new, Quinn will be under center opening game.
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@shepwrite said:
Wish I understood the dog-owner blurbs. I don't get it. We're engaging in the #1 football board practice, debating a quarterback "competition." It's what we do.'Peen, you do a lot of good stuff here. I think this one is a miss.
It isn't to call people dogs my friend. It just seems odd people who seem to not like the guy are almost conditioned to be preemptive in their actions, or that is simply their motivation.....I understand some like smack talk on a message board.
Who cares....Lums likes Anderson and isn't afraid to say so. Maybe the motivation is he doesn't like Quinn...again...so what
I agree with many....unless Quinn really fouls up somehow or Anderson finds something new, Quinn will be under center opening game.
It isn't to call people dogs my friend. It just seems odd people who seem to not like the guy are almost conditioned to be preemptive in their actions, or that is simply their motivation.....I understand some like smack talk on a message board.
Who cares....Lums likes Anderson and isn't afraid to say so. Maybe the motivation is he doesn't like Quinn...again...so what
I agree with many....unless Quinn really fouls up somehow or Anderson finds something new, Quinn will be under center opening game.
Lums loves anderson...i like anderson just not as much as i like bq i think DA could be a very good qb with a lot of work and a few years to grow he suffered under very poor coaching with scherer...with mangini da will not stare down and will scan and read the field or he wont play period..
I like lums he adds some funny to this board during offseason and during season...hehehehe
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Now you understand.
It isn't that i don't think Lums isn't formidable, but he is pretty one tracked in his view....and that being the case, there really isn't much point debating the point.
I guess the point to me is debate is engaging in conversation trying to sway anothers opinion. This isn't like my old college debate team where someone is grading the value of the argument where point, counterpoint is important. This is simply making a point. If after a while you see the point is never going to be made, it goes from debating a point to bickering a position.(I should take my own advice in the political forum
)Anyway...I might not go so far as to say Quinn is a lock for the starting position. i like to gamble every now and then, and think more in terms of odds and percentages....Quinn at this point is about 85% certain of being the guy for at least the next year.
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The way I see this is Dabolls offense is as Shep describes it as more of a New Englandish/Weiss type offense....That requires a Cerebral QB...An offense predicated on running the ball...and WR's executing timing routes and patterns...Quinn has been here "Studying" the offense while Drive Assasin was on holiday driving the lil white rock around the holy land......As far as Im concerened...I havent seen anything heady about DA's play at QB...nada,zip,zilch...And judging by DA's demeanor...One gets the sense he really doesnt want to be here....and thats fine by Me....
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@inspecta said:
Peen, your smarter than this, or so I thought.It isn't a simple hatred of Quinn or love of DA that gets lumnuts the hate he receives here.
It's the fact that he is a charlatan, a fraud, a bogus fan. He loves the Browns no more than your average steeler fan, and his loyalty for this team goes as far as Anderson is under contract. The second he is moved Lum will no longer be a "fan" of the cleveland Browns.
So we pile on him at every chance, because it's a bit like high school when a poser comes up and tries to hang with the cool kids, but everybody knows the kid is as big a dork as they come.
Hang on to those highschool years Inspecta. Are the "cool kids" always the cool ones years later?
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best part is, every single one of them is SO worth ignoring too. worthless, garbage posts.
the only reason that queer isn't banned, is because he's the board admin's alter ego.
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@inspecta said:
Peen, your smarter than this, or so I thought.It isn't a simple hatred of Quinn or love of DA that gets lumnuts the hate he receives here.
It's the fact that he is a charlatan, a fraud, a bogus fan. He loves the Browns no more than your average steeler fan, and his loyalty for this team goes as far as Anderson is under contract. The second he is moved Lum will no longer be a "fan" of the cleveland Browns.
So we pile on him at every chance, because it's a bit like high school when a poser comes up and tries to hang with the cool kids, but everybody knows the kid is as big a dork as they come.
Hang on to those highschool years Inspecta. Are the "cool kids" always the cool ones years later?
Hang on to those highschool years Inspecta. Are the "cool kids" always the cool ones years later?
I'm going to guess you weren't one of the cool kids in high school.
And still aren't.
Assuming you aren't still in high school, of course.
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Let me see how Quinn performs against the Steelers...
Thats the test that will put all this "expert" foolishness to bed once and for all...
It's hard to spin a performance against the Steelers---either you have or you don't....
peace
T.Dawg
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Let me see how Quinn performs against the Steelers...
Thats the test that will put all this "expert" foolishness to bed once and for all...
It's hard to spin a performance against the Steelers---either you have or you don't....
peace
T.Dawg
Let me see how Quinn performs against the Steelers...
Thats the test that will put all this "expert" foolishness to bed once and for all...
It's hard to spin a performance against the Steelers---either you have or you don't....
peace
T.Dawg
And so far we know DA's record and performance against them. I guess Tim Couch has it.
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A QB isn't fighting for his job when he spends the entire off season so far playing golf (admittedly), while the other QB is working with the coaches. I lost a lot of respect for Anderson from this conversation
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On Anderson spending the entire off season away - Got a link?
Weren't there photos of Quinn and Anderson lifting posted a while back? Wasn't there a link or two with reports that Anderson was making the right moves by being a regular at Berea? It'd be curious to see where Anderson admits he's spent the entire off season playing golf. There is the post below stating he's visited home, played some golf and went to the Masters (what's that, 4 days?), but "entire"?
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Give me a QB that can beat the steelers and he gets my vote... Bernie beat em' and even if we lost it was still a good game.... These embarassments that we've been on the receiving end of sure do suck....
To beat em' you have to out play them, out think them and out coach them.... Quinn could possibly fit that bill and he needs a chance to show it... Let teh games begin...
peace
T.Dawg
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Give me a QB that can beat the steelers and he gets my vote... Bernie beat em' and even if we lost it was still a good game.... These embarassments that we've been on the receiving end of sure do suck....
To beat em' you have to out play them, out think them and out coach them.... Quinn could possibly fit that bill and he needs a chance to show it... Let teh games begin...
peace
T.Dawg
Give me a QB that can beat the steelers and he gets my vote... Bernie beat em' and even if we lost it was still a good game.... These embarassments that we've been on the receiving end of sure do suck....
To beat em' you have to out play them, out think them and out coach them.... Quinn could possibly fit that bill and he needs a chance to show it... Let teh games begin...
peace
T.Dawg
Man I hope so. 4-12 last season sucked, but it would have been like being 8-8 if we'd been able to beat PITT once or twice.
Then again, winning one against the Steelers might have saved RACs job. Guess it's a good thing we didn't.
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Zombo you hit the bull's eye...
The day of the off season of driving cabs, selling insurance, running a bar or restaurant are gone with the dinosaurs...
Most NFL players took off a few weeks then began their off season training program... Some did it in Berera, some with other NFL players, some in private programs...
I'm also amazed at the hatred thrown toward this kid... With some posters its as if he slept with their significant other...There have been multiple factors contributing to his poor won - loss record (thats what its all about, isn't it).....
By all logic, Quinn should be under center come opening day... I hope he lives up to his billing and performs in the mold of Sipe & Kosar...
However, with the injury rate of todays QB's, Anderson is a good insurance policy if needed... Hasn't the mood here stated more than once that the prior coaching staff sucked and the new regime will "coach them up" this year???? I guess we have to include DA in that assesment....
I just don't understand the hate for DA... I just don't get it>>>>
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T.Dawg
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Honestly, a good amount of the perceived ill will towards DA on this board is the direct result of the entity, human or otherwise, known as "Lumbergh".
I'm as guilty as the next guy of letting Lum's insanity affect my perception of DA.
So, to offset the Lum Bias effect, I just go back to this simple statement:
DA had his chance and failed, for reasons well documented. And now BQ deserves his shot.
It's that simple right now.
But I agree with Zombo, daddbull and shep that DA is still a valuable commodity and by all accounts a decent guy. I
(I've been making the commodity argument since DA's first big game. I was one of the few that was all for trading him as early as the mid-point of '07 simply on the cost-benefit analysis.)
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@shepwrite said:
I don't hate Derek Anderson and have never slagged the kid at all. He's by all accounts a good guy and I would pick him over Charlie Frye every Sunday for a million years. He has a big arm and throws a gorgeous ball quite effortlessly.I think there are a lot of things, all well discussed, that prevent him from being a true franchise quarterback in this league like Manning, Brady, Brees, Favre, and even Ryan, Rivers, Rodgers and a lot of others. There are holes in the mental aspect of the game and in his demeanor that haven't changed in the past eight years. Frankly, he would've made more sense in about 1975.
In today's NFL, he just doesn't work. Bombs don't happen often and beating sophisticated defenses with any consistency requires a really smart guy and about a 65% completion percentage with very few picks.
Indeed; could not agree more the kid throws a TON of picks and I have a feeling does not have the grey matter to lead an NFL squad on the field
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