A Diversion
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Here are some factoids and some questions on football and on sports in general that may take your mind off of the Browns suckotage for just a bit. You can consider this to be in lieu of Trivia for the week....and also somewhat this week's Survey:
1. . At the time of the "Merger" of 1970 there were a combined 26 teams in the newly combined NFL. Nearly half of the team in place at that time have NOT won a Championship since the merger. 14 teams have won titles, 12 have not. Those who have not are: Eagles, Vikings, Lions, Falcons, Browns, Chargers, Cardinals, Jets, Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, Titans/Oilers. And the Dolphins last won in 1973.
Do you consider this good, bad, or indifferent that the league has had so many teams not win titles in practically the lifetime of many of you out there?
2. Since 1970, Six new teams have been added to the league. Half of those have won a Super Bowl: Seahawks, Bucs...both of which came in 1976, and the Ravens who came in in 1996. The Jags, Panthers and Texans have not won.
Same basic question, is it good that half of the "expansion" teams have won, or not. Also: Do you think the NFL should expand?
3.. Whatever happened to the "Big Man" in basketball. Is it fair to say that the dominating center has gone the way of the Dinosaur? Practically extinct? The last one that I can think of is Shaq.
Is there any room for the dominant center in today's NBA?
4. Major League Baseball has identified the fact that there are two franchises that have serious Stadium Issues: Oakland and Tampa Bay. Oakland in on schedule to have a new stadium built by 2023 near Jack London Square. Tampa Bay is looking at a new waterfront stadium in Tampa to replace Tropicana Field in St. Pete.
Once these two sites have been settled and the stadium financing etc. all in place, MLB will be looking to expand to 32 teams. The MLB commissioner has actually named 3 cities that he believes would be prime potential locations for this expansion: A. Going back into Montreal B. Charlotte NC, and C. Mexico City...or some city in Mexico.
What do you think about these choices? Or are there others that would be preferable?
5. The Sporting News published its list of the 10 Greatest Running Backs ever. The are:
10. Marshall Faulk 9. LaDanian Tomlinson 8. Tony Dorsett 7. Eric Dickerson 6. Gale Sayers 5. OJ Simpson 4. Emmitt Smith 3. Walter Payton 2. Barry Sanders 1. Jim Brown.
Any problem with this list or this Order? (note...the following who are in the Top Ten in all time rushing were not included on this list; Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis, Frank Gore...any issues here?
6.A bit of nostalgia. The Akron Rubber Bowl is soon slated for demolition. As part of its history recal that in 1952 the Dallas Texans played its only season as a franchise in the NFL. But things got so bad there, that that team moved its final 2 home games to the Rubber Bowl. That NFL team won its only game that year over the Bears in the Rubber Bowl....on Thanks giving day. However....that same day, there was also a high school City Series Championship game played that outdrew the Texans/Bears Games.
Is the San Diego/LA Chargers move to the Stub Hub stadium about tantamount to the Texans playing in the Rubber Bowl? Small stadium. No local support. Fans of the opposing team outdraw fans of the home team? etc.
Here are some factoids and some questions on football and on sports in general that may take your mind off of the Browns suckotage for just a bit. You can consider this to be in lieu of Trivia for the week....and also somewhat this week's Survey:
1. . At the time of the "Merger" of 1970 there were a combined 26 teams in the newly combined NFL. Nearly half of the team in place at that time have NOT won a Championship since the merger. 14 teams have won titles, 12 have not. Those who have not are: Eagles, Vikings, Lions, Falcons, Browns, Chargers, Cardinals, Jets, Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, Titans/Oilers. And the Dolphins last won in 1973.
Do you consider this good, bad, or indifferent that the league has had so many teams not win titles in practically the lifetime of many of you out there?
Indifferent. It is what it is.
2. Since 1970, Six new teams have been added to the league. Half of those have won a Super Bowl: Seahawks, Bucs...both of which came in 1976, and the Ravens who came in in 1996. The Jags, Panthers and Texans have not won.
Same basic question, is it good that half of the "expansion" teams have won, or not. Also: Do you think the NFL should expand?
No on any expansion, there aren't enough good QBs with 32 teams.
3.. Whatever happened to the "Big Man" in basketball. Is it fair to say that the dominating center has gone the way of the Dinosaur? Practically extinct? The last one that I can think of is Shaq.
Is there any room for the dominant center in today's NBA?
Sure. But athletic 7 footers are hard to find.
4. Major League Baseball has identified the fact that there are two franchises that have serious Stadium Issues: Oakland and Tampa Bay. Oakland in on schedule to have a new stadium built by 2023 near Jack London Square. Tampa Bay is looking at a new waterfront stadium in Tampa to replace Tropicana Field in St. Pete.
Once these two sites have been settled and the stadium financing etc. all in place, MLB will be looking to expand to 32 teams. The MLB commissioner has actually named 3 cities that he believes would be prime potential locations for this expansion: A. Going back into Montreal B. Charlotte NC, and C. Mexico City...or some city in Mexico.
What do you think about these choices? Or are there others that would be preferable?
Wow, I didn't realize there was expansion talk in MLB. Those choices seem fine to me, although I wonder if Montreal would be supportive again. I'd look into Calgary or Winnipeg, even though the markets are smaller.
5. The Sporting News published its list of the 10 Greatest Running Backs ever. The are:
10. Marshall Faulk 9. LaDanian Tomlinson 8. Tony Dorsett 7. Eric Dickerson 6. Gale Sayers 5. OJ Simpson 4. Emmitt Smith 3. Walter Payton 2. Barry Sanders 1. Jim Brown.
Any problem with this list or this Order? (note...the following who are in the Top Ten in all time rushing were not included on this list; Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis, Frank Gore...any issues here? Earl Campbell needs to be in the top 10 somewhere, and I'd remove Tomlinson to put him on there.
6.A bit of nostalgia. The Akron Rubber Bowl is soon slated for demolition. As part of its history recal that in 1952 the Dallas Texans played its only season as a franchise in the NFL. But things got so bad there, that that team moved its final 2 home games to the Rubber Bowl. That NFL team won its only game that year over the Bears in the Rubber Bowl....on Thanks giving day. However....that same day, there was also a high school City Series Championship game played that outdrew the Texans/Bears Games.
Is the San Diego/LA Chargers move to the Stub Hub stadium about tantamount to the Texans playing in the Rubber Bowl? Small stadium. No local support. Fans of the opposing team outdraw fans of the home team? etc.
Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft, and Goodell pushed hard for the LA market. The Chargers shouldn't have bolted...I bet they end up in St. Louis or Oklahoma City someday.
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Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft, and Goodell pushed hard for the LA market. The Chargers shouldn't have bolted...I bet they end up in St. Louis or Oklahoma City someday.
They should go to San Antonio....because Jerry Jones thinks that market belongs to him....and I would not mind seeing him get Fubarred. (F----uckedupbeyondallrecognition)
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Schmucked? Really? At least do something like we did with Retard. Say....instead of the eff word, replace it with well....most appropriately: "Ghoolie". You know like Ghoolie you, pooper. If not Ghoolie....fine then say Gipper. "You are one Gippered up SOB.
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Sad thing about the Rubber Bowl.
Its hosted high school, college, and even some pro games.
If I remember correctly, the Browns played a few preseason games there.
With the new Infocision Stadium, and the newly re-vamped Tom Benson Stadium down the road, it serves little use these days.
Don't forget many, many great concerts...
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The Rubber Bowl in Akron, which hosted acts like the Rolling Stones, Ringo Starr, Black Sabbath, Simon & Garfunkel, Alice Cooper, Bon Jovi, Van Halen, Metallica, Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, The Grateful Dead and Aretha Franklin......SURE IS A MESS NOW!
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3034837/Rubber-Bowl-Akron-Ohio-sits-abandoned-hosting-rock-legends-football-games.html#ixzz4uYDDBBSz
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I'll see your poster and raise you a stub...

And there it is... lower left of the featured trio...

I'll see your poster and raise you a stub...

And there it is... lower left of the featured trio...

I was there. While there were no assigned seats, myself and a group of friends sat right up front and center, probably not 15-20 feet from the front of the stage. Remember at the end a helicopter hovering over the crowd throwing out panties (like the ones that came in the School's Out album)
And WOW, $4.50 to see the show. Oi!
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Yeah... the prices were amazing. No TicketMaster back then.
Then you sat for Alice about where I "sat" for Eagles - Maha - Yes. I was in the seats for Alice.
I saw Chicago,, Three Dog Night among others plus was on the field for some very memorable high school football games in 1965, 66, 67 in Stark and Summit County with our NILES MCKINLEY RED DRAGONS back then.
Niles had a McKinley, too??? Who knew...

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Yeah... the prices were amazing. No TicketMaster back then.
Then you sat for Alice about where I "sat" for Eagles - Maha - Yes. I was in the seats for Alice.
I saw Chicago,, Three Dog Night among others plus was on the field for some very memorable high school football games in 1965, 66, 67 in Stark and Summit County with our NILES MCKINLEY RED DRAGONS back then.
Niles had a McKinley, too??? Who knew...

Yeah... the prices were amazing. No TicketMaster back then.
Then you sat for Alice about where I "sat" for Eagles - Maha - Yes. I was in the seats for Alice.
Niles had a McKinley, too??? Who knew...

And the "fictional" School in the TV show Glee was Lima McKinley. Lima never had a McKinley HS
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Here are some factoids and some questions on football and on sports in general that may take your mind off of the Browns suckotage for just a bit. You can consider this to be in lieu of Trivia for the week....and also somewhat this week's Survey:
1. . At the time of the "Merger" of 1970 there were a combined 26 teams in the newly combined NFL. Nearly half of the team in place at that time have NOT won a Championship since the merger. 14 teams have won titles, 12 have not. Those who have not are: Eagles, Vikings, Lions, Falcons, Browns, Chargers, Cardinals, Jets, Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, Titans/Oilers. And the Dolphins last won in 1973.
Do you consider this good, bad, or indifferent that the league has had so many teams not win titles in practically the lifetime of many of you out there?
2. Since 1970, Six new teams have been added to the league. Half of those have won a Super Bowl: Seahawks, Bucs...both of which came in 1976, and the Ravens who came in in 1996. The Jags, Panthers and Texans have not won.
Same basic question, is it good that half of the "expansion" teams have won, or not. Also: Do you think the NFL should expand?
3.. Whatever happened to the "Big Man" in basketball. Is it fair to say that the dominating center has gone the way of the Dinosaur? Practically extinct? The last one that I can think of is Shaq.
Is there any room for the dominant center in today's NBA?
4. Major League Baseball has identified the fact that there are two franchises that have serious Stadium Issues: Oakland and Tampa Bay. Oakland in on schedule to have a new stadium built by 2023 near Jack London Square. Tampa Bay is looking at a new waterfront stadium in Tampa to replace Tropicana Field in St. Pete.
Once these two sites have been settled and the stadium financing etc. all in place, MLB will be looking to expand to 32 teams. The MLB commissioner has actually named 3 cities that he believes would be prime potential locations for this expansion: A. Going back into Montreal B. Charlotte NC, and C. Mexico City...or some city in Mexico.
What do you think about these choices? Or are there others that would be preferable?
5. The Sporting News published its list of the 10 Greatest Running Backs ever. The are:
10. Marshall Faulk 9. LaDanian Tomlinson 8. Tony Dorsett 7. Eric Dickerson 6. Gale Sayers 5. OJ Simpson 4. Emmitt Smith 3. Walter Payton 2. Barry Sanders 1. Jim Brown.
Any problem with this list or this Order? (note...the following who are in the Top Ten in all time rushing were not included on this list; Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis, Frank Gore...any issues here?
6.A bit of nostalgia. The Akron Rubber Bowl is soon slated for demolition. As part of its history recal that in 1952 the Dallas Texans played its only season as a franchise in the NFL. But things got so bad there, that that team moved its final 2 home games to the Rubber Bowl. That NFL team won its only game that year over the Bears in the Rubber Bowl....on Thanks giving day. However....that same day, there was also a high school City Series Championship game played that outdrew the Texans/Bears Games.
Is the San Diego/LA Chargers move to the Stub Hub stadium about tantamount to the Texans playing in the Rubber Bowl? Small stadium. No local support. Fans of the opposing team outdraw fans of the home team? etc.
Here are some factoids and some questions on football and on sports in general that may take your mind off of the Browns suckotage for just a bit. You can consider this to be in lieu of Trivia for the week....and also somewhat this week's Survey:
1. . At the time of the "Merger" of 1970 there were a combined 26 teams in the newly combined NFL. Nearly half of the team in place at that time have NOT won a Championship since the merger. 14 teams have won titles, 12 have not. Those who have not are: Eagles, Vikings, Lions, Falcons, Browns, Chargers, Cardinals, Jets, Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, Titans/Oilers. And the Dolphins last won in 1973.
Do you consider this good, bad, or indifferent that the league has had so many teams not win titles in practically the lifetime of many of you out there?
2. Since 1970, Six new teams have been added to the league. Half of those have won a Super Bowl: Seahawks, Bucs...both of which came in 1976, and the Ravens who came in in 1996. The Jags, Panthers and Texans have not won.
Same basic question, is it good that half of the "expansion" teams have won, or not. Also: Do you think the NFL should expand?
3.. Whatever happened to the "Big Man" in basketball. Is it fair to say that the dominating center has gone the way of the Dinosaur? Practically extinct? The last one that I can think of is Shaq.
Is there any room for the dominant center in today's NBA?
4. Major League Baseball has identified the fact that there are two franchises that have serious Stadium Issues: Oakland and Tampa Bay. Oakland in on schedule to have a new stadium built by 2023 near Jack London Square. Tampa Bay is looking at a new waterfront stadium in Tampa to replace Tropicana Field in St. Pete.
Once these two sites have been settled and the stadium financing etc. all in place, MLB will be looking to expand to 32 teams. The MLB commissioner has actually named 3 cities that he believes would be prime potential locations for this expansion: A. Going back into Montreal B. Charlotte NC, and C. Mexico City...or some city in Mexico.
What do you think about these choices? Or are there others that would be preferable?
5. The Sporting News published its list of the 10 Greatest Running Backs ever. The are:
10. Marshall Faulk 9. LaDanian Tomlinson 8. Tony Dorsett 7. Eric Dickerson 6. Gale Sayers 5. OJ Simpson 4. Emmitt Smith 3. Walter Payton 2. Barry Sanders 1. Jim Brown.
Any problem with this list or this Order? (note...the following who are in the Top Ten in all time rushing were not included on this list; Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis, Frank Gore...any issues here?
6.A bit of nostalgia. The Akron Rubber Bowl is soon slated for demolition. As part of its history recal that in 1952 the Dallas Texans played its only season as a franchise in the NFL. But things got so bad there, that that team moved its final 2 home games to the Rubber Bowl. That NFL team won its only game that year over the Bears in the Rubber Bowl....on Thanks giving day. However....that same day, there was also a high school City Series Championship game played that outdrew the Texans/Bears Games.
Is the San Diego/LA Chargers move to the Stub Hub stadium about tantamount to the Texans playing in the Rubber Bowl? Small stadium. No local support. Fans of the opposing team outdraw fans of the home team? etc.
The Browns died in 1995 and were moved to Baltimore. There, they have won titles. THe team in Cleveland is not historically tied to the real Browns and therefore is an expansion team.
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Yeah... the prices were amazing. No TicketMaster back then.
Then you sat for Alice about where I "sat" for Eagles - Maha - Yes. I was in the seats for Alice.
I saw Chicago,, Three Dog Night among others plus was on the field for some very memorable high school football games in 1965, 66, 67 in Stark and Summit County with our NILES MCKINLEY RED DRAGONS back then.
Niles had a McKinley, too??? Who knew...

Yeah... the prices were amazing. No TicketMaster back then.
Then you sat for Alice about where I "sat" for Eagles - Maha - Yes. I was in the seats for Alice.
Niles had a McKinley, too??? Who knew...

Yeah in 1966 my junior year we went 10-0-0 and beat Massillon, Canton McKinley (where the prez moved later) and Warren Harding.

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Here are some factoids and some questions on football and on sports in general that may take your mind off of the Browns suckotage for just a bit. You can consider this to be in lieu of Trivia for the week....and also somewhat this week's Survey:
1. . At the time of the "Merger" of 1970 there were a combined 26 teams in the newly combined NFL. Nearly half of the team in place at that time have NOT won a Championship since the merger. 14 teams have won titles, 12 have not. Those who have not are: Eagles, Vikings, Lions, Falcons, Browns, Chargers, Cardinals, Jets, Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, Titans/Oilers. And the Dolphins last won in 1973.
Do you consider this good, bad, or indifferent that the league has had so many teams not win titles in practically the lifetime of many of you out there?
2. Since 1970, Six new teams have been added to the league. Half of those have won a Super Bowl: Seahawks, Bucs...both of which came in 1976, and the Ravens who came in in 1996. The Jags, Panthers and Texans have not won.
Same basic question, is it good that half of the "expansion" teams have won, or not. Also: Do you think the NFL should expand?
3.. Whatever happened to the "Big Man" in basketball. Is it fair to say that the dominating center has gone the way of the Dinosaur? Practically extinct? The last one that I can think of is Shaq.
Is there any room for the dominant center in today's NBA?
4. Major League Baseball has identified the fact that there are two franchises that have serious Stadium Issues: Oakland and Tampa Bay. Oakland in on schedule to have a new stadium built by 2023 near Jack London Square. Tampa Bay is looking at a new waterfront stadium in Tampa to replace Tropicana Field in St. Pete.
Once these two sites have been settled and the stadium financing etc. all in place, MLB will be looking to expand to 32 teams. The MLB commissioner has actually named 3 cities that he believes would be prime potential locations for this expansion: A. Going back into Montreal B. Charlotte NC, and C. Mexico City...or some city in Mexico.
What do you think about these choices? Or are there others that would be preferable?
5. The Sporting News published its list of the 10 Greatest Running Backs ever. The are:
10. Marshall Faulk 9. LaDanian Tomlinson 8. Tony Dorsett 7. Eric Dickerson 6. Gale Sayers 5. OJ Simpson 4. Emmitt Smith 3. Walter Payton 2. Barry Sanders 1. Jim Brown.
Any problem with this list or this Order? (note...the following who are in the Top Ten in all time rushing were not included on this list; Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis, Frank Gore...any issues here?
6.A bit of nostalgia. The Akron Rubber Bowl is soon slated for demolition. As part of its history recal that in 1952 the Dallas Texans played its only season as a franchise in the NFL. But things got so bad there, that that team moved its final 2 home games to the Rubber Bowl. That NFL team won its only game that year over the Bears in the Rubber Bowl....on Thanks giving day. However....that same day, there was also a high school City Series Championship game played that outdrew the Texans/Bears Games.
Is the San Diego/LA Chargers move to the Stub Hub stadium about tantamount to the Texans playing in the Rubber Bowl? Small stadium. No local support. Fans of the opposing team outdraw fans of the home team? etc.
The Browns died in 1995 and were moved to Baltimore. There, they have won titles. THe team in Cleveland is not historically tied to the real Browns and therefore is an expansion team.
The Browns died in 1995 and were moved to Baltimore. There, they have won titles. THe team in Cleveland is not historically tied to the real Browns and therefore is an expansion team.
This thread was meant for people interested in Sports. If you can't pay attention and answer the questions asked, don't bother to participate.
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Gipper you should write a book.
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Gipper you should write a book.
I think he secretly is.......and we're all in it.

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Gipper and Ghoolie are two of the smartest persons I have ever had the pleasure of responding to a post made by one of them on a message board.
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Gipper you should write a book.
It wouldn't be a book....just an edited compilation.
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Gipper and Ghoolie are two of the smartest persons I have ever had the pleasure of responding to a post made by one of them on a message board.
Gipper and Ghoolie are two of the smartest persons I have ever had the pleasure of responding to a post made by one of them on a message board.
Ghoolie is smart the way the Unabomber was smart. (and the Unabomber was very smart) Intelligent, but totally twisted...in certain regards.
FYI....if you were to just look at the Unabomber Manifesto....there is some very accurate, interesting, prophetic material in there. The problem of course is that instead of publishing his material....his thoughts, philosophies.....he used his intellect for evil and to kill people.
(I am not comparing Ghoolie in that respect...just in other ways, like saying that Obama was responsible for the Las Vegas mass murder...See what I mean by twisted?)
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