My Last Post For the Football Weekend

Ghoolie

Trubisky starts his first game, and so does Two-Tackle Texas.

#1 #1 versus #1 #2..............................

You gotta think about the luck of the Browns and just know Haslam is going to be puking in Dee's snapper............................."WHY DIDN'T WE TAKE THAT FUKCING KID"

ZUMBA AWAY, MYLIE.......ZUMBA AWAY. WATCH YOUR ANKLES ON HOSE JUMP ROPES.

Orion

The question is, who will throw more TD passes, Trubisky or Keizer? Garrett isn't part of the equation. He just tackles people.

Ghoolie

@orion said:

The question is, who will throw more TD passes, Trubisky or Keizer? Garrett isn't part of the equation. He just tackles people.

Wrong............... you are a simple fan in your thinking. Haslammmm pays $100s of millions for employees, most of it to ball players but a hell of a lot to FO people too.

He had a #1 #1 Pick.............. and you can be sure in this idiotic "Football Assets" conversation, he needs to see results. Trubisky and Garrett are a head-to-head comparison that a lot of eyes will be on. WHich #1st round pick delivers the most for all the millions. In the world of millionaire pride, and FO job security, if you think tht a stellar Trubisky versus a limpy, wimpy Zumba instructor wont humiliate and infuriate Haslam, then you are nuts.

For people in the know............ THAT is the comparison that matters on Sunday.

nickers

@ghoolie said:

Wrong............... you are a simple fan in your thinking. Haslammmm pays $100s of millions for employees, most of it to ball players but a hell of a lot to FO people too.

He had a #1 #1 Pick.............. and you can be sure in this idiotic "Football Assets" conversation, he needs to see results. Trubisky and Garrett are a head-to-head comparison that a lot of eyes will be on. WHich #1st round pick delivers the most for all the millions. In the world of millionaire pride, and FO job security, if you think tht a stellar Trubisky versus a limpy, wimpy Zumba instructor wont humiliate and infuriate Haslam, then you are nuts.

For people in the know............ THAT is the comparison that matters on Sunday.

Even people who aren't in the know should realize.. This is what the Browns pinned all of theyre hopes on.. Anyone with a lick of common sense knows that regardless of position these spoiled assholes play.. Both of these kids were viably seen to get picked 1st overall... Me personal belief was we needed to draft the best QB and WR in this draft then go defense.. That didn't happen.....Kizer was the least interesting QB to Me in the draft .. I wanted Trubs or Mahomes.. The rest I thought was junk...

Orion

@nickers said:

Me personal belief was we needed to draft the best QB and WR in this draft then go defense

I also believed that we had to go QB...since we didn't have one. But that and a quarter will get you a phone call.

They took the guy that ALL of the smart-butt talking heads said was the waaay best player. Whereas I was saying that the QB position has to be rated on a curve. We can't be comparing a guy that's supposed to tackle people against a QB. It's not a fair fight. The QB should ALWAYS win that fight (unless you're the drafting team that is the Harvard Think Tank). The value of the QB is way more than any other positions (including defensive end). The matchups are Trubisky, (Watson, etc.) against the guy that we DID take (Keizer).

nickers

@orion said:

I also believed that we had to go QB...since we didn't have one. But that and a quarter will get you a phone call.

They took the guy that ALL of the smart-butt talking heads said was the waaay best player. Whereas I was saying that the QB position has to be rated on a curve. We can't be comparing a guy that's supposed to tackle people against a QB. It's not a fair fight. The QB should ALWAYS win that fight (unless you're the drafting team that is the Harvard Think Tank). The value of the QB is way more than any other positions (including defensive end). The matchups are Trubisky, (Watson, etc.) against the guy that we DID take (Keizer).

Well so far Keezer looks like Sheet.. And don't tell me how bad manning started out,, Manning had years of preparation from an NFL QB father.. he was breaking down film and defenses long before Keezer knew what a jock was...

mjp28

The Browns problem isn't the current QB whoever that is it goes much deeper, check out the "before and after" list:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_starting_quarterbacks

And oddly in 9 seasons Bernie Kosar only had three 16 game starts, Brian Sipe had four in 7 seasons, quarterbacks do get hurt but the Browns system is broken.

Amazing too the great Otto Graham only missed one start in his six NFL seasons.....well 12 games back then.

miktoxic

Wonder how Hoyer and McCown are doing, you know as that vet bridge building tool that can win you some games and teach the young in?

mjp28

BROWNS TOP 15 QUARTERBACKS IN GAMES STARTED, out of a huge list, any surprises?

Quarterback	Uniform No(s)	Games started	Wins	Losses	Ties	Winning pct.
Sipe, Brian	17	112	57	55	0	.509
Kosar, Bernie	19	105	53	51	1	.510
Ryan, Frank	13	76	52	22	2	.697
Graham, Otto	60,14	71	57	13	1	.810
Couch, Tim	2	59	22	37	0	.373
Nelsen, Bill	16	51	34	16	1	.676
Phipps, Mike	15	51	24	25	2	.490
Plum, Milt	16	51	33	16	2	.667
Anderson, Derek	3	34	16	18	0	.471
Testaverde, Vinny	12	31	16	15	0	.516
McDonald, Paul	16	21	8	13	0	.381
McCoy, Colt	12	21	6	15	0	.286
Weeden, Brandon	3	20	5	15	0	.250
Frye, Charlie	9	19	6	13	0	.316
Hoyer, Brian	6	16	10	6	0	.625

The Gipper

@ghoolie said:

Trubisky starts his first game, and so does Two-Tackle Texas.

#1 #1 versus #1 #2..............................

You gotta think about the luck of the Browns and just know Haslam is going to be puking in Dee's snapper............................."WHY DIDN'T WE TAKE THAT FUKCING KID"

ZUMBA AWAY, MYLIE.......ZUMBA AWAY. WATCH YOUR ANKLES ON HOSE JUMP ROPES.

The only matchups taking place are the now Trubisky lead Bears against the Vikings, and the Browns vs. the Jets.

And remember, I believe the Browns and just about everyone else thought that MT would actually fall to the Browns with their second first round pick...#12. I was one of the few (perhaps you were too) that said that MT would go in the Top 5. Even made a bet with Stan over it. And now he owes me a pitcher of Margaritas.

But now, as far as matchups...it is just one team vs. another....nothing else.

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

BROWNS TOP 15 QUARTERBACKS IN GAMES STARTED, out of a huge list, any surprises?

Quarterback Uniform No(s) Games started Wins Losses Ties Winning pct.
Sipe, Brian 17 112 57 55 0 .509
Kosar, Bernie 19 105 53 51 1 .510
Ryan, Frank 13 76 52 22 2 .697
Graham, Otto 60,14 71 57 13 1 .810
Couch, Tim 2 59 22 37 0 .373
Nelsen, Bill 16 51 34 16 1 .676
Phipps, Mike 15 51 24 25 2 .490
Plum, Milt 16 51 33 16 2 .667
Anderson, Derek 3 34 16 18 0 .471
Testaverde, Vinny 12 31 16 15 0 .516
McDonald, Paul 16 21 8 13 0 .381
McCoy, Colt 12 21 6 15 0 .286
Weeden, Brandon 3 20 5 15 0 .250
Frye, Charlie 9 19 6 13 0 .316
Hoyer, Brian 6 16 10 6 0 .625

I believe this list would likely not include Otto's AAFC years.

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

I believe this list would likely not include Otto's AAFC years.

Correct just the NFL beginning in 1950 the year I was born, we're both 67 this year.

Sipe and Graham both 57 wins, exciting Browns football.

Ghoolie

Lest you jakcoffs destroy what is left of this board, I am going to leave you to your own devices and post what will now be a weekly Friday post. I am going to let you guys enjoy your football weekend. Not out of friendship for you, but out of friendship for the board and Stan. Please, grow a set of balls, Especially you Mark O, quit being poosies. If you don't like something, don't read it. I am sorry that I am so deep into your heads, but that's on you....not me.

So on to football.

I think we have come to an understanding. I am a lover of the Browns. I just do not accept this fake, version 2.0 as the real Browns. I would support them if there was reason to, but their isn't. I want this team to lose, suffer setbacks, humiliation and loss of revenue to the point that the NFL finds another home for it. Too much damage has been done to the Browns brand. I want the worst imaginable future for this imposter. Modell was the Browns. He mover the team to Baltimore and they are called the Ravens.

So, I root for the Jets, and, they should win by a decent margin, 10 - 17 points. Here is what i look for......................

1) Jaw dropping surprise that Garrett's return has the D looking even worse. (Ogbah is better at the position.)

2) Continued interceptions, fumbles and bad throws from Black Tarkenton

3)Continued dumb penalies

4)Lots of dropped passes.

In calculating the spread, odds makers begin by giving the home team a 3 point edge. If oddsmakers saw this as a toss up, the Browns woudl be a 3 point favorite. Experts see this as a game the Jets should win. How funny is it that you homosexuals blabber on and on and on about how winning doesn't mean anything, how it takes years to see results............ and BOOM............. right in your face.......... the lowly Jets are 2-2 and right now a contender.

I guess they didn't get the message that you have to amass assets, and pay $3 Billion Hoorta dollars for a great OL.

YOUR HOPE - Garrett steal the show, the defense pounds McCown, Kizer finds accuracy, the Browns magically start catching the ball, or maybe even Kizer gets benched and a hero saves the day.

THE REALITY - Garrett will oddly have the defense looking worse due to his one dimension play, and the Jets running game being productive. McCown will carve WIlliams swiss cheese, undisciplined defense to shreds. Will the stadium empty out early? The odds are pretty good. he browns will stay close for awhile, then, the lack of playmakers will again have them implode.

Jets, 1,036 Browns -2. Go Jets.

Hopefully, when I rejoin you homos on Monday your tears will have dried................... Oh, wait............ I forgot.................................

"If the ref doesn't make that call, we win"

"If hue makes the right call, we win"

"If he makes that catch, we win"

"Yeha, this was a loss, but you can see we are getting closer, this was real progress"

Let me know if I missed anything. Of course, most of you snowflakes will be in hiding come Monday, especially if Two Tackle Texas hurts his twigs again.

Oh yeah........... Trubisky will be great to watch. I predict his debut will be a lot more impressive than that of Cowgirl, Two-Tackle Texas.

nickers

Ghoolie

@nickers said:

Even people who aren't in the know should realize.. This is what the Browns pinned all of theyre hopes on.. Anyone with a lick of common sense knows that regardless of position these spoiled assholes play.. Both of these kids were viably seen to get picked 1st overall... Me personal belief was we needed to draft the best QB and WR in this draft then go defense.. That didn't happen.....Kizer was the least interesting QB to Me in the draft .. I wanted Trubs or Mahomes.. The rest I thought was junk...

My points exactly Mah Nikka.

This horseschidt about Trubs and Garrett play different positions, so there is no comparison is just that HORSESCHIDT. The Browns had a #1 #1 pick. Haslam paid a lot of money for it, and in looking at how smart his staff is, he is going to be looking at the performance of the other players that pick could have brought.

If Trubs pans out to be great, which he will, and Garrett pans out, as it looks like, to be another Courtney Brown, Haslam will be sick to his stomach. He could have had a franchise QB, and instead he gets a fukc-tard who wants to be a cowgirl, who admits he doesn't play hard on every down, and who has three ankle injuries, with more looming.

Hue should never have been hired. However, it isn't just he who will going to be fired this year. If Trubs brings down the house, the FO is going to be shaken up. So far, not one of their draft picks has been a stand out. Assets you say? Yes, schidt assets that drop passes, miss tackles, and commit penalties. A veritable football junkyard.

nickers

@ghoolie said:

My points exactly Mah Nikka.

This horseschidt about Trubs and Garrett play different positions, so there is no comparison is just that HORSESCHIDT. The Browns had a #1 #1 pick. Haslam paid a lot of money for it, and in looking at how smart his staff is, he is going to be looking at the performance of the other players that pick could have brought.

If Trubs pans out to be great, which he will, and Garrett pans out, as it looks like, to be another Courtney Brown, Haslam will be sick to his stomach. He could have had a franchise QB, and instead he gets a fukc-tard who wants to be a cowgirl, who admits he doesn't play hard on every down, and who has three ankle injuries, with more looming.

Hue should never have been hired. However, it isn't just he who will going to be fired this year. If Trubs brings down the house, the FO is going to be shaken up. So far, not one of their draft picks has been a stand out. Assets you say? Yes, schidt assets that drop passes, miss tackles, and commit penalties. A veritable football junkyard.

Again Tom.. It gets back My feeling about "Quality".. And not Quantity in picks that never amount to a pile of Sheep Dung!