Safety at Sports Venues
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My wife knows a young woman who was at the concert in Vegas with her mother. She said she was not at the concert at the time of the gun firing but in her hotel room and a hotel worker came to their door and made them leave when the firing started. She said they didn't know where to go and just started running with the mob outside and said they scaled a wall to try to get away from the gunfire. Not sure the reasoning behind the hotel doing this. Seems like staying and sheltering in place would have been the route to go.
Seems like staying and sheltering in place would have been the route to go.
Exactly.
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I'm wondering about drugs. haven't heard anything.
Nah Cal- this isn't about drugs. Certainly not in the planing stages at least. This was cold-blooded killing- thought out well in advance by a guy with above average intelligence- who wanted to take as many people out as possible. I'm going to amass a few thousand rounds of ammo, Get myself kits to convert AR-15s to full auto, have a Sheet ton of 100 round clips (looked it up) to minimize reloading, and reserve a room overlooking the concert site.
Sure, you can hallucinate on meth or LSD- but not for the length of time it would take to plan this. He had it all planned out. If he were drugged out- he would never have gotten that arsenal up to his room. Speed might help you slap another clip on your gun, but......
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technically, it isn't full auto, even though it emulates the automatic weapon because of the high firing rate.
However, a 30 round clip would go off in less than three seconds. He also had explosives in his room, those are
also illegal/highly restricted.
Murderers will murder. with an airplane, drone, bomb, arson, poison gas, etc etc etc. But you are surely correct about your drugs point.
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So we can't outlaw "bump stop kits" because... you know... slippery slope?
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dummest post you ever posted, Gip. your dirtbag obaMao regime approved the bump stocks.
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So we can't outlaw "bump stop kits" because... you know... slippery slope?
Ah- back in the old days I picked up a few issues of "The Shotgun News". Cal already corrected me about bump stocks- but back then you could get kits to convert semi-autos to full autos.
Way back in the day, I even thought about getting a permit for an Uzi- I totally get the fun you could have firing a full auto weapon at things other than people. Only takes one nut job to ruin it for the rest of us.
Yeah, I know there's a (to my mind) group that's into tactical weapons- because they can. Never wanted to own one- Ok self protection? a 12 gauge is way better at close range, and if you want a pistol- get a .45 Colt Acp or a 9mm.
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So we can't outlaw "bump stop kits" because... you know... slippery slope?
Ah- back in the old days I picked up a few issues of "The Shotgun News". Cal already corrected me about bump stocks- but back then you could get kits to convert semi-autos to full autos.
Way back in the day, I even thought about getting a permit for an Uzi- I totally get the fun you could have firing a full auto weapon at things other than people. Only takes one nut job to ruin it for the rest of us.
Yeah, I know there's a (to my mind) group that's into tactical weapons- because they can. Never wanted to own one- Ok self protection? a 12 gauge is way better at close range, and if you want a pistol- get a .45 Colt Acp or a 9mm.
Ah- back in the old days I picked up a few issues of "The Shotgun News". Cal already corrected me about bump stocks- but back then you could get kits to convert semi-autos to full autos.
Way back in the day, I even thought about getting a permit for an Uzi- I totally get the fun you could have firing a full auto weapon at things other than people. Only takes one nut job to ruin it for the rest of us.
Yeah, I know there's a (to my mind) group that's into tactical weapons- because they can. Never wanted to own one- Ok self protection? a 12 gauge is way better at close range, and if you want a pistol- get a .45 Colt Acp or a 9mm.
Got a friend who is a collector who was looking into one of those .50 cal Barrett M82 sniper rifles. I told him if he got it he then he was automatically on the FBI watch list. LOL!
It uses the same bullet fired out of the .50 machine gun with a max effective range of close to 6000 ft. I told him if he hit an antelope hunting in the plains of N.M. there would be no meat left to harvest. I mean who needs that anyway?
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dummest post you ever posted, Gip. your dirtbag obaMao regime approved the bump stocks.
dummest post you ever posted, Gip. your dirtbag obaMao regime approved the bump stocks.
The same admin that was trampling on your gun rights for 8 years? Wow... Any evidence that you or your gun community was against bump stocks approval at the time?
How about when the Bush administration first "approved" them in 2005? Or did you protest when the Bush admin rescinded that approval in 2007?
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dummest post you ever posted, Gip. your dirtbag obaMao regime approved the bump stocks.
dummest post you ever posted, Gip. your dirtbag obaMao regime approved the bump stocks.
Yes...it is the dumbest....but unfortuneately...the most accurate perhaps.
(and what kind of whining and gnashing and Gomer fueled epithets do you think would have been heard if it had not been allowed to have gone through.....and I disagree with the term "approved".....that connotates "endorsement". I doubt his administration endorsed it....it just didn't have the ability to disallow it.
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Ah- back in the old days I picked up a few issues of "The Shotgun News". Cal already corrected me about bump stocks- but back then you could get kits to convert semi-autos to full autos.
Way back in the day, I even thought about getting a permit for an Uzi- I totally get the fun you could have firing a full auto weapon at things other than people. Only takes one nut job to ruin it for the rest of us.
Yeah, I know there's a (to my mind) group that's into tactical weapons- because they can. Never wanted to own one- Ok self protection? a 12 gauge is way better at close range, and if you want a pistol- get a .45 Colt Acp or a 9mm.
Got a friend who is a collector who was looking into one of those .50 cal Barrett M82 sniper rifles. I told him if he got it he then he was automatically on the FBI watch list. LOL!
It uses the same bullet fired out of the .50 machine gun with a max effective range of close to 6000 ft. I told him if he hit an antelope hunting in the plains of N.M. there would be no meat left to harvest. I mean who needs that anyway?
Got a friend who is a collector who was looking into one of those .50 cal Barrett M82 sniper rifles. I told him if he got it he then he was automatically on the FBI watch list. LOL!
It uses the same bullet fired out of the .50 machine gun with a max effective range of close to 6000 ft. I told him if he hit an antelope hunting in the plains of N.M. there would be no meat left to harvest. I mean who needs that anyway?
Crimininals and terrorists....and the NRA is their best friend in America.
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Ah- back in the old days I picked up a few issues of "The Shotgun News". Cal already corrected me about bump stocks- but back then you could get kits to convert semi-autos to full autos.
Way back in the day, I even thought about getting a permit for an Uzi- I totally get the fun you could have firing a full auto weapon at things other than people. Only takes one nut job to ruin it for the rest of us.
Yeah, I know there's a (to my mind) group that's into tactical weapons- because they can. Never wanted to own one- Ok self protection? a 12 gauge is way better at close range, and if you want a pistol- get a .45 Colt Acp or a 9mm.
Got a friend who is a collector who was looking into one of those .50 cal Barrett M82 sniper rifles. I told him if he got it he then he was automatically on the FBI watch list. LOL!
It uses the same bullet fired out of the .50 machine gun with a max effective range of close to 6000 ft. I told him if he hit an antelope hunting in the plains of N.M. there would be no meat left to harvest. I mean who needs that anyway?
Got a friend who is a collector who was looking into one of those .50 cal Barrett M82 sniper rifles. I told him if he got it he then he was automatically on the FBI watch list. LOL!
It uses the same bullet fired out of the .50 machine gun with a max effective range of close to 6000 ft. I told him if he hit an antelope hunting in the plains of N.M. there would be no meat left to harvest. I mean who needs that anyway?
I will tell a (true) story about an automatic weapon. One of my former co-workers grew up in Spencer, West Virginia. Yup- out in the hills. So way back the county sheriff asks her- hey, you want to go shooting? With a full auto Al Capone vintage Thompson. Well, Theresa couldn't handle the recoil, and in about 10 seconds she's spraying lead all over the place with the sheriff screaming "GET YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER!!!!"
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Got a friend who is a collector who was looking into one of those .50 cal Barrett M82 sniper rifles. I told him if he got it he then he was automatically on the FBI watch list. LOL!
It uses the same bullet fired out of the .50 machine gun with a max effective range of close to 6000 ft. I told him if he hit an antelope hunting in the plains of N.M. there would be no meat left to harvest. I mean who needs that anyway?
I will tell a (true) story about an automatic weapon. One of my former co-workers grew up in Spencer, West Virginia. Yup- out in the hills. So way back the county sheriff asks her- hey, you want to go shooting? With a full auto Al Capone vintage Thompson. Well, Theresa couldn't handle the recoil, and in about 10 seconds she's spraying lead all over the place with the sheriff screaming "GET YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER!!!!"
I will tell a (true) story about an automatic weapon. One of my former co-workers grew up in Spencer, West Virginia. Yup- out in the hills. So way back the county sheriff asks her- hey, you want to go shooting? With a full auto Al Capone vintage Thompson. Well, Theresa couldn't handle the recoil, and in about 10 seconds she's spraying lead all over the place with the sheriff screaming "GET YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER!!!!"
Funny. My dad was an expert with every small arms the army had and trained troops during WW II out on the firing range. Whenever he introduced the Thompson he would ask for a volunteer among the trainees to come fire it first. He'd stand next to him and grab it as soon as it went too far up to control. He was using the stoolie to demonstrate how NOT to fire one. But one day the volunteer who stepped forward put perfectly stitched short burst after short burst right across the target just like you are supposed to do. My dad says, "You've fired one of these before." The answer, "Maybe." Where are you from kid?". "Chicago." True story.
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well, I see where the murderer has been prescribed anti-anxiety medication in the past.
seems to be a not uncommon thread with these acting out in extreme violence.
I was thinking illegal drugs... but these...brain altering medications have been
involved in other violence outbreaks.
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