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  • buy-bye hue

  • TD Jets

  • Now, because we didn't kick the FG, we're two scores down.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • OrionO Orion

    Myles is limping.  He's gotta come out.

    @orion said:

    Myles is limping.  He's gotta come out.

    he just got stone called stopped one on one by a tight end on a key third and long, so maybe he should

  • Great call.   GG boys.  

  • And just before that score...

    That moment when you are half-listening to the broadcast, here that McCown is throwing well, and start to think, "Good for the Brow--ohhhhhh."

  • Calling a timeout and going for it instead of taking the points to tie with an entire quarter left is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

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  • time for hogan to be the hero. plenty of game left

  • OrionO Orion

    Now, because we didn't kick the FG, we're two scores down.

    @orion said:

    Now, because we didn't kick the FG, we're two scores down.

    and if we had kicked the fg instead of going for it we could easily say "now we need a td just to tie when a field goal could have tied".......going for it was the right move without question.

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  • They just are not a good team. We can go back and forth on whether it was a good or bad call. Doesn't matter, they are a long way from being competitive.

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    @orion said:

    Now, because we didn't kick the FG, we're two scores down.

    and if we had kicked the fg instead of going for it we could easily say "now we need a td just to tie when a field goal could have tied".......going for it was the right move without question.

    @tacosman said:

    and if we had kicked the fg instead of going for it we could easily say "now we need a td just to tie when a field goal could have tied".......going for it was the right move without question.

    In this country, you're entitled to your wrong opinion. 🙂

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    Calling a timeout and going for it instead of taking the points to tie with an entire quarter left is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

    @bbedward said:

    Calling a timeout and going for it instead of taking the points to tie with an entire quarter left is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

    actually the fact that there was a whole qtr left is even more reason to go for it.  The more time on the clock there is the more your basic pt expectation charts come into play.  and everytime on fourth and a yard from the 3 they are going to say your pt expectations are more than 2.9+...which is what the fg was.

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    @jrb12711 said:

    You're just objectively wrong. If it was the right decision we wouldn't be in the position we are now. You tie the a game when you can, but Hue is a terrible coach. You would be too.

    lmao.....you dont judge a decision by whethe r or not it worked out.  you judge it by whether it was the right decision at the time.  And according to win expectancy and pt expectation charts, it was.

    meaningless cliches like "you tie the game when you can" are just that....meaningless.  May as well say "you go ahead in the game when you can".  

    @tacosman said:

    lmao.....you dont judge a decision by whethe r or not it worked out.  you judge it by whether it was the right decision at the time.  And according to win expectancy and pt expectation charts, it was.

    meaningless cliches like "you tie the game when you can" are just that....meaningless.  May as well say "you go ahead in the game when you can".  

    Oh please in your infinite wisdom validate your statement with facts and not words. I'm certain you can't.

    You don't judge a decision on if it worked? Surely you hear how ducking stupid that sounds right? I played football for a long time. In pee wee leagues the decision there is to take the points.

    Seriously, Hue doesn't get it. If he's gone tomorrow I wouldn't be upset.

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  • OrionO Orion

    @tacosman said:

    and if we had kicked the fg instead of going for it we could easily say "now we need a td just to tie when a field goal could have tied".......going for it was the right move without question.

    In this country, you're entitled to your wrong opinion. 🙂

    @orion said:

    In this country, you're entitled to your wrong opinion. 🙂

    analytics say Im right

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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @tacosman said:

    lmao.....you dont judge a decision by whethe r or not it worked out.  you judge it by whether it was the right decision at the time.  And according to win expectancy and pt expectation charts, it was.

    meaningless cliches like "you tie the game when you can" are just that....meaningless.  May as well say "you go ahead in the game when you can".  

    Oh please in your infinite wisdom validate your statement with facts and not words. I'm certain you can't.

    You don't judge a decision on if it worked? Surely you hear how ducking stupid that sounds right? I played football for a long time. In pee wee leagues the decision there is to take the points.

    Seriously, Hue doesn't get it. If he's gone tomorrow I wouldn't be upset.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Oh please in your infinite wisdom validate your statement with facts and not words. I'm certain you can't.

    You don't judge a decision on if it worked? Surely you hear how ducking stupid that sounds right? I played football for a long time. In pee wee leagues the decision there is to take the points.

    Seriously, Hue doesn't get it. If he's gone tomorrow I wouldn't be upset.

    I suggest you consult a pts expectation or game specific win expectancy chart.  

    As for judging a decision based on whether it worked....if you go out now and rob a convenience store and get 300 dollars and never get caught, it 'worked'.  doesnt mean it was the right decision.  

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  • They should fire Hue..... today

    and Ive never advocated for his firing....but he is bad bad bad

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  • @boo-fagley said:

    No it wasnt.

    You take the points. It was a chip shot and the kicker made the PAT. Also, it might have instilled a little confidence in the kicking game. If the Browns lose by 3 then Hue needs to pack his bags.

    lol...two nonsensical points.  The fact it was a chip shot is irrelevant.  even if we assign a value of 3 to the decision to kick, the value of being fourth and 1 at the 3 has a pt value of more than 3.  

    as for "instilling confidence in the kicking game"...this is just meaningless cliched bullshite.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    You gotta take the points.

    Belichick would 100 times out of 100 if Brady had to kick the damn ball through the uprights.

    lol....BB once famously went for it on 4th and 2 and on his own 28 late in the 4th qtr up against the colts because the analytics told him to in that game situation.  If you think he of all people would have gone against the data and played it safe you are crazy.

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    @jrb12711 said:

    Oh please in your infinite wisdom validate your statement with facts and not words. I'm certain you can't.

    You don't judge a decision on if it worked? Surely you hear how ducking stupid that sounds right? I played football for a long time. In pee wee leagues the decision there is to take the points.

    Seriously, Hue doesn't get it. If he's gone tomorrow I wouldn't be upset.

    I suggest you consult a pts expectation or game specific win expectancy chart.  

    As for judging a decision based on whether it worked....if you go out now and rob a convenience store and get 300 dollars and never get caught, it 'worked'.  doesnt mean it was the right decision.  

    @tacosman said:

    I suggest you consult a pts expectation or game specific win expectancy chart.  

    As for judging a decision based on whether it worked....if you go out now and rob a convenience store and get 300 dollars and never get caught, it 'worked'.  doesnt mean it was the right decision.  

    That's why I asked you. You've said three times now it was the right decision based on the analytics, but can't explain why or provide proof. Can you understand why I would say you're full of crap? Or do you just like saying things without understanding them at all?

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @tacosman said:

    I suggest you consult a pts expectation or game specific win expectancy chart.  

    As for judging a decision based on whether it worked....if you go out now and rob a convenience store and get 300 dollars and never get caught, it 'worked'.  doesnt mean it was the right decision.  

    That's why I asked you. You've said three times now it was the right decision based on the analytics, but can't explain why or provide proof. Can you understand why I would say you're full of crap? Or do you just like saying things without understanding them at all?

    @jrb12711 said:

    That's why I asked you. You've said three times now it was the right decision based on the analytics, but can't explain why or provide proof. Can you understand why I would say you're full of crap? Or do you just like saying things without understanding them at all?

    it was right based on the analytics because the pt expectation value of going for it there in that situation is going to be almost 4 pts.  Whereas kicking in that situation is going to be between 2.9 and 3.0.  not complicated.

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