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  • Hogan

    That's the answer. Always. Apparently

    @mld-woody said:

    Hogan

    That's the answer. Always. Apparently

    Yeah, you're right Missedagain - we looked a lot better scoring zero points with Kizer than 2 TDs with Hogan today.   When your defense only gives up 8 yards rushing and 57 yards passing in 1 half - being down 3-0 at halftime is unacceptable.   Yes, I know Kizer has a strong arm like Jamarcus Russell and Brandon Weeden so you want to forfeit all 16 games because he's just like them?

    Why do you suppose his college coach said he's not ready at all?  BTW, they're a much better team this year in case that matters as much as Kizer's arm strength to you.

  • @hoorta said:

    Make that WR "corpse" TC, headed by the suddenly- since he got paid- Kenny "dead hands" Britt. I just think we're going to have to see things differently on Deshone. I was underwhelmed by his play at ND, and i'm not exactly thrilled by his play in the NFL- so far. Of course- I hope he "gets it". 

    He's not going to have a Bortles level of opportunity though. MHO it's bye, or bye-bye. We're not going to try and develop a scattershot cannon- with Darnold and Allen waiting in the wings. 

    FWIW, that's what bothering me about the Hue Happy Club. What? You played like crap? Don't worry, be happy- we're going to "coach you up". No consequences for bad play. None. and it just might be- Hue's paranoid he puts in Hogan- he's going to outperform "work in progress" Kizer.  

    I can understand the dilemma for Hue. Last year he was under fire for yanking Kessler while we actually had a lead (if I recall correctly) and he gave up on him early on. This year he wants to avoid the same mistake with Kizer who has shown at times that he really can move the team (before someone screws up the drive). So part of the reason we are 0-4 is he has that dilemma.

    Part of the reason we are 0-4, besides offense, is that the defense is not playing well either. And part of the reason they are not playing well is we are missing 3 key defenders on an admittedly thinly talented team overall. And part of the reason it is thinly talented is the lack of a FS so we created the new CF position that is ineffective in stopping long drives.

    What a mess.

    @texasag1969 said:

    What a mess.

    That says it all....

  • @texasag1969 said:

    What a mess.

    That says it all....

    @mudfly said:

    That says it all....

    I'm now convinced that Hue is the mess. Worst gameday coach I have ever seen at this level. One poor decision after another and one poor playcall after another. It's like he has no redzone plan that has been practiced all week. And who the hell does not kick the tying FG, especially when you are struggling to score anything. Just plain inexcusable.

  • @mudfly said:

    That says it all....

    I'm now convinced that Hue is the mess. Worst gameday coach I have ever seen at this level. One poor decision after another and one poor playcall after another. It's like he has no redzone plan that has been practiced all week. And who the hell does not kick the tying FG, especially when you are struggling to score anything. Just plain inexcusable.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Just plain inexcusable.

    eggsactly...enraging!!!.....and it's been non stop since he's been here////noy a QB guru....not a top Offensive mind.....not a game day coach....not a good talent evaluator.....just dont see what he brings to the table, other than a chipper attitude(which is vanishing too)

  • There where opportunities to win this.  Play call killed it

  • There where opportunities to win this.  Play call killed it

    @lbc-mike said:

    There where opportunities to win this.  Play call killed it

    And decision against the FG to tie when we were struggling to score anything. Stupid is as stupid does.

    Had to say it twice because it still pisses me off.

  • Ran the ball when we should have thrown and vice versa 

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    With all that said, yeah it's been a rough couple weeks but Kizer is unfairly shouldering a lot of the blame. There's plenty of blame to go around. 

    Notice I said "part of the reason" for each of those. There is no single solution to any problem. But I'm fairly certain that, were Crow averaging 5 YPC and moving the sticks at a rate commensurate with last season, Kizer would have a little more room to throw and fans would be a little more willing to overlook his early struggles. The Bengals game was an absolute abortion but Kizer has shown glimpses of what I saw from him in college. It would be nice if he had a receiver who he could trust but alas, right now we have 3-4 tackling dummies running decently shitty routes on any given play.  We don't have an active receiver with over a 50% catch percentage. For comparison's sake, the Texans only have one receiver with a sub-50% catch percentage, and it's Braxton Miller. Catch percentage is a broad stat but it paints enough of a picture of the current state of our WR corps.

    Make that WR "corpse" TC, headed by the suddenly- since he got paid- Kenny "dead hands" Britt. I just think we're going to have to see things differently on Deshone. I was underwhelmed by his play at ND, and i'm not exactly thrilled by his play in the NFL- so far. Of course- I hope he "gets it". 

    He's not going to have a Bortles level of opportunity though. MHO it's bye, or bye-bye. We're not going to try and develop a scattershot cannon- with Darnold and Allen waiting in the wings. 

    FWIW, that's what bothering me about the Hue Happy Club. What? You played like crap? Don't worry, be happy- we're going to "coach you up". No consequences for bad play. None. and it just might be- Hue's paranoid he puts in Hogan- he's going to outperform "work in progress" Kizer.  

    @hoorta said:

     I just think we're going to have to see things differently on Deshone. I was underwhelmed by his play at ND, and i'm not exactly thrilled by his play in the NFL- so far. Of course- I hope he "gets it". 

    He's not going to have a Bortles level of opportunity though. MHO it's bye, or bye-bye. We're not going to try and develop a scattershot cannon- with Darnold and Allen waiting in the wings. 

    FWIW, that's what bothering me about the Hue Happy Club. What? You played like crap? Don't worry, be happy- we're going to "coach you up". No consequences for bad play. None. and it just might be- Hue's paranoid he puts in Hogan- he's going to outperform "work in progress" Kizer.  

    I hate quoting myself- but Kizer sailed yet another sideline pass to his right a mile high. The int on the Dawgpound side was horrendous. 

    Finally benched Kizer. But Deshone is still "his guy". Like RG III and Kessler? Look at the stat sheet much Hue?

    Kizer 8\17 87 yards 0TD 1 int rate: 38.1

    Hogan 16\19 194 yards 2TD 1 int rate: 122.4

    Excuse me while I barf. If the "process" is to have the #1 overall pick again in 2018, congrats, you're right on track. 

  • @hoorta said:

     I just think we're going to have to see things differently on Deshone. I was underwhelmed by his play at ND, and i'm not exactly thrilled by his play in the NFL- so far. Of course- I hope he "gets it". 

    He's not going to have a Bortles level of opportunity though. MHO it's bye, or bye-bye. We're not going to try and develop a scattershot cannon- with Darnold and Allen waiting in the wings. 

    FWIW, that's what bothering me about the Hue Happy Club. What? You played like crap? Don't worry, be happy- we're going to "coach you up". No consequences for bad play. None. and it just might be- Hue's paranoid he puts in Hogan- he's going to outperform "work in progress" Kizer.  

    I hate quoting myself- but Kizer sailed yet another sideline pass to his right a mile high. The int on the Dawgpound side was horrendous. 

    Finally benched Kizer. But Deshone is still "his guy". Like RG III and Kessler? Look at the stat sheet much Hue?

    Kizer 8\17 87 yards 0TD 1 int rate: 38.1

    Hogan 16\19 194 yards 2TD 1 int rate: 122.4

    Excuse me while I barf. If the "process" is to have the #1 overall pick again in 2018, congrats, you're right on track. 

    @hoorta said:

    I hate quoting myself- but Kizer sailed yet another sideline pass to his right a mile high. The int on the Dawgpound side was horrendous. 

    Finally benched Kizer. But Deshone is still "his guy". Like RG III and Kessler? Look at the stat sheet much Hue?

    Kizer 8\17 87 yards 0TD 1 int rate: 38.1

    Hogan 16\19 194 yards 2TD 1 int rate: 122.4

    Excuse me while I barf. If the "process" is to have the #1 overall pick again in 2018, congrats, you're right on track. 

    But remember Larry.. According to Hue.. Kaiser Rolls is playing lights out!

  • @hoorta said:

    I hate quoting myself- but Kizer sailed yet another sideline pass to his right a mile high. The int on the Dawgpound side was horrendous. 

    Finally benched Kizer. But Deshone is still "his guy". Like RG III and Kessler? Look at the stat sheet much Hue?

    Kizer 8\17 87 yards 0TD 1 int rate: 38.1

    Hogan 16\19 194 yards 2TD 1 int rate: 122.4

    Excuse me while I barf. If the "process" is to have the #1 overall pick again in 2018, congrats, you're right on track. 

    But remember Larry.. According to Hue.. Kaiser Rolls is playing lights out!

    @nickers said:

    But remember Larry.. According to Hue.. Kaiser Rolls is playing lights out!

    Very true. He always seems like he's in the dark.

    WSS