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  • wargograw W One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    Mud, isn't your story proof positive that you can NOT fire everyone? Who's next? The janitor comes up to Jimmy and says he has a plan so he takes the reigns? Surely you see this.

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      Don't forget, a homeless guy drafted Manziel.

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        Don't forget, a homeless guy drafted Manziel.

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        @orion said:

        Don't forget, a homeless guy drafted Manziel.

        Man, life's been hard for Ray Farmer post-Browns. 😆

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          Mud, isn't your story proof positive that you can NOT fire everyone? Who's next? The janitor comes up to Jimmy and says he has a plan so he takes the reigns? Surely you see this.

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          MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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          @wargograw said:

          Mud, isn't your story proof positive that you can NOT fire everyone? Who's next? The janitor comes up to Jimmy and says he has a plan so he takes the reigns? Surely you see this.

          Yeah...Im not advocating firing everyone.....(well, maybe a little yesterday)(or a lot)(but Ive cooled down)(a little)......just not happy with the process.....

          I get that firing these guys will just start the ugly cycle again.....and Jimmy has burned all his lives with his credibility in NFL coachings circles......so we'd just get another suck butt coach or GM......which is a large part of my extreme frustration.......(Jimmy doesnt know what he's doing...he's our biggest obstacle to success)

          Its just a bad situation....with no winning in our immediate future.....

          Though I have a feeling about next weeks game.....(good? bad?...im not sure....but its a feeling)

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          • MudflyM Mudfly

            @medicineman said:

            How did Sashi ever get this job to begin with?  

            I was wondering the same thing just yesterday.....

            Shashi was already here and was a team lawyer....doing contracts, research, etc.....so, at some point, either Jimmy went to him and said "can you be a GM?".....or Shashi came to Jimmy and said "I have an idea how to run this thing?"......

            Somebody(and probably NOT Jimmy) had to develop the concept of this whole analytic thing and the hiring of Depo, etc etc etc.....just dont know how that came to be....

            Personally....I think Jimmys hands were tied....he was at the end of his rope....ran out of good ideas and options....had no one on the horizon(and had already fired everyone) and Shashi told him....""let me handle this".....and Jimmy said OK...

            and here we are....

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            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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            @mudfly said:

            Shashi was already here and was a team lawyer....doing contracts, research, etc.....so, at some point, either Jimmy went to him and said "can you be a GM?".....or Shashi came to Jimmy and said "I have an idea how to run this thing?"......

            Brown had 7 years doing the same thing here https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/1/13/3873854/sashi-brown-hired-browns  never underestimate the Tebow Curse?

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              @wargograw said:

              Mud, isn't your story proof positive that you can NOT fire everyone? Who's next? The janitor comes up to Jimmy and says he has a plan so he takes the reigns? Surely you see this.

              Yeah...Im not advocating firing everyone.....(well, maybe a little yesterday)(or a lot)(but Ive cooled down)(a little)......just not happy with the process.....

              I get that firing these guys will just start the ugly cycle again.....and Jimmy has burned all his lives with his credibility in NFL coachings circles......so we'd just get another suck butt coach or GM......which is a large part of my extreme frustration.......(Jimmy doesnt know what he's doing...he's our biggest obstacle to success)

              Its just a bad situation....with no winning in our immediate future.....

              Though I have a feeling about next weeks game.....(good? bad?...im not sure....but its a feeling)

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              @mudfly said:

              Yeah...Im not advocating firing everyone.....(well, maybe a little yesterday)(or a lot)(but Ive cooled down)(a little)......just not happy with the process.....

              I get that firing these guys will just start the ugly cycle again.....and Jimmy has burned all his lives with his credibility in NFL coachings circles......so we'd just get another suck butt coach or GM......which is a large part of my extreme frustration.......(Jimmy doesnt know what he's doing...he's our biggest obstacle to success)

              Its just a bad situation....with no winning in our immediate future.....

              Though I have a feeling about next weeks game.....(good? bad?...im not sure....but its a feeling)

              Fair enough. This board just needs to be shut down for 24 hours after losses. 

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                @mudfly said:

                Yeah...Im not advocating firing everyone.....(well, maybe a little yesterday)(or a lot)(but Ive cooled down)(a little)......just not happy with the process.....

                I get that firing these guys will just start the ugly cycle again.....and Jimmy has burned all his lives with his credibility in NFL coachings circles......so we'd just get another suck butt coach or GM......which is a large part of my extreme frustration.......(Jimmy doesnt know what he's doing...he's our biggest obstacle to success)

                Its just a bad situation....with no winning in our immediate future.....

                Though I have a feeling about next weeks game.....(good? bad?...im not sure....but its a feeling)

                Fair enough. This board just needs to be shut down for 24 hours after losses. 

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                @wargograw said:

                Fair enough. This board just needs to be shut down for 24 hours after losses. 

                Then it would never be open............ 

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                  Would like to keep Sashi for things such as contract structures, trade deals, etc etc.   

                  The fact he still got a pick out of KC for Erving is... nothing short of a minor miracle.  

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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  Would like to keep Sashi for things such as contract structures, trade deals, etc etc.   

                  The fact he still got a pick out of KC for Erving is... nothing short of a minor miracle.  

                  Ray Farmer got a number one for Trent Richardson.

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                    @tiamat63 said:

                    Would like to keep Sashi for things such as contract structures, trade deals, etc etc.   

                    The fact he still got a pick out of KC for Erving is... nothing short of a minor miracle.  

                    Ray Farmer got a number one for Trent Richardson.

                    WSS

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Ray Farmer got a number one for Trent Richardson.

                    WSS

                    I thought that was Banner and Lombardi?

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                      @tiamat63 said:

                      Would like to keep Sashi for things such as contract structures, trade deals, etc etc.   

                      The fact he still got a pick out of KC for Erving is... nothing short of a minor miracle.  

                      You mean the starting RT on the 5-0 Chiefs? He doesn't grade well still, but they are winning anyway thanks to Smith's escape ability.

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                      You mean the starting RT on the 5-0 Chiefs?

                      Mitchell Schwartz is the starting RT for the chiefs - and the backup LT to erik fisher. If Fisher is out [this happened week 1] then Schwartz moves to LT and Cam Erving would start.  

                      Schwartz left as FA; Erving is the one who was traded.

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                        @tiamat63 said:

                        Would like to keep Sashi for things such as contract structures, trade deals, etc etc.   

                        The fact he still got a pick out of KC for Erving is... nothing short of a minor miracle.  

                        Ray Farmer got a number one for Trent Richardson.

                        WSS

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                        OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        Ray Farmer got a number one for Trent Richardson.

                        WSS

                        That was Joe Banner.  Farmer was a pompous dope.

                        ...and don't we now have the dope that gave Banner the #1 for Richardson?

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                          @westside-steve said:

                          Ray Farmer got a number one for Trent Richardson.

                          WSS

                          That was Joe Banner.  Farmer was a pompous dope.

                          ...and don't we now have the dope that gave Banner the #1 for Richardson?

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                          @orion said:

                          That was Joe Banner.  Farmer was a pompous dope.

                          ...and don't we now have the dope that gave Banner the #1 for Richardson?

                          Oh yeah. Well Joe Banner was a beloved member of the Cleveland Browns organization wasn't he?

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                          • MudflyM Mudfly

                            @medicineman said:

                            How did Sashi ever get this job to begin with?  

                            I was wondering the same thing just yesterday.....

                            Shashi was already here and was a team lawyer....doing contracts, research, etc.....so, at some point, either Jimmy went to him and said "can you be a GM?".....or Shashi came to Jimmy and said "I have an idea how to run this thing?"......

                            Somebody(and probably NOT Jimmy) had to develop the concept of this whole analytic thing and the hiring of Depo, etc etc etc.....just dont know how that came to be....

                            Personally....I think Jimmys hands were tied....he was at the end of his rope....ran out of good ideas and options....had no one on the horizon(and had already fired everyone) and Shashi told him....""let me handle this".....and Jimmy said OK...

                            and here we are....

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            First.. WTF are Peyton Manning's qualifications to become a GM?

                            @mudfly said:

                            I was wondering the same thing just yesterday.....

                            Haven't I explained this to you in the past? More than once?

                            Two words... Ginkgo Biloba...

                            @clevfan4life said:

                            We're stuck with sashi and hue, get over it. 

                            Sashi, yes... Hue?

                            @mudfly said:

                            ... not sure....but its a feeling)

                            Indigestion?

                            @unsympathetic said:

                            Schwartz left as FA; Erving is the one who was traded.

                            ... and is starting at RG... next to Mitchypoo...

                            Looks really bad, too...

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                              @orion said:

                              That was Joe Banner.  Farmer was a pompous dope.

                              ...and don't we now have the dope that gave Banner the #1 for Richardson?

                              Oh yeah. Well Joe Banner was a beloved member of the Cleveland Browns organization wasn't he?

                              WSS

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              @westside-steve said:

                              Oh yeah. Well Joe Banner was a beloved member of the Cleveland Browns organization wasn't he?

                              And thus Steve made a great argument for Sashi's longevity...

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                                @mudfly said:

                                Yeah...Im not advocating firing everyone.....(well, maybe a little yesterday)(or a lot)(but Ive cooled down)(a little)......just not happy with the process.....

                                I get that firing these guys will just start the ugly cycle again.....and Jimmy has burned all his lives with his credibility in NFL coachings circles......so we'd just get another suck butt coach or GM......which is a large part of my extreme frustration.......(Jimmy doesnt know what he's doing...he's our biggest obstacle to success)

                                Its just a bad situation....with no winning in our immediate future.....

                                Though I have a feeling about next weeks game.....(good? bad?...im not sure....but its a feeling)

                                Fair enough. This board just needs to be shut down for 24 hours after losses. 

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                                Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                                @wargograw said:

                                Fair enough. This board just needs to be shut down for 24 hours after losses. 

                                You, sir, are on a roll & you're probably right!

                                Mike

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                                  I predicted the peyton manning involvement in the browns two years ago.  Id love to see him as OC

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                                    @wargograw said:

                                    Fair enough. This board just needs to be shut down for 24 hours after losses. 

                                    You, sir, are on a roll & you're probably right!

                                    Mike

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                                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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                                    @canton-mike said:

                                    You, sir, are on a roll & you're probably right!

                                    Mike

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                                      @orion said:

                                      That was Joe Banner.  Farmer was a pompous dope.

                                      ...and don't we now have the dope that gave Banner the #1 for Richardson?

                                      Oh yeah. Well Joe Banner was a beloved member of the Cleveland Browns organization wasn't he?

                                      WSS

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      Oh yeah. Well Joe Banner was a beloved member of the Cleveland Browns organization wasn't he?

                                      WSS

                                      Joe Banner made one of my favorite football statements, "Today's NFL is Pass and Rush the Passer".  - I felt that we had someone that UNDERSTOOD the game.

                                      He also said that they used analytics and did an in depth study of the QB's coming out that year and that Manziel was waay off the list of QB's to draft because of too many red flags.  Shortly after Haslam fired the lot of them and promoted Phucking Farmer.  Banner later said, "I'd love to know what went on to bring Manziel from OFF the list of QB's to being the one they drafted".

                                      Banner could be a bit gruff.....but he knew his stuff.

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                                        @mudfly said:

                                        Yeah...Im not advocating firing everyone.....(well, maybe a little yesterday)(or a lot)(but Ive cooled down)(a little)......just not happy with the process.....

                                        I get that firing these guys will just start the ugly cycle again.....and Jimmy has burned all his lives with his credibility in NFL coachings circles......so we'd just get another suck butt coach or GM......which is a large part of my extreme frustration.......(Jimmy doesnt know what he's doing...he's our biggest obstacle to success)

                                        Its just a bad situation....with no winning in our immediate future.....

                                        Though I have a feeling about next weeks game.....(good? bad?...im not sure....but its a feeling)

                                        Fair enough. This board just needs to be shut down for 24 hours after losses. 

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                                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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                                        @wargograw said:

                                        Fair enough. This board just needs to be shut down for 24 hours after losses. 

                                        I can assure if we win a game you'll amend that to not just losses but wins too. I can already see starry eyed looks if we get one win....."how many weeks till the playoffs guys? We totally got this!!!!  "   Lols

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                          I still would like someone to let me know what P. Manning's qualifications for GM are...

                                          OC? I could see... he was one on the field for over a decade, but GM???

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