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  • @jcam222 said:

    I think it's great news they are looking for a football guy to run the FO. I also don't believe this necessarily means a complete blow up. It's conceivable the coaching staff stays intact. That's especially true is Jimmy feels the real failures been in Sashi. 

    No. No. No! IF (big if) Haslman wants to restart... again. He has to do it right.  Hire a GM then let him pick the coach, then let him hire his coaching staff.  Suggest he keep Williams on D, but other than that, hire your guy at the top, then get the HELL out of the way.

    Thats the ONLY way it works!!

    @thenew23 said:

    No. No. No! IF (big if) Haslman wants to restart... again. He has to do it right.  Hire a GM then let him pick the coach, then let him hire his coaching staff.  Suggest he keep Williams on D, but other than that, hire your guy at the top, then get the HELL out of the way.

    Thats the ONLY way it works!!

    Why Keep Williams, all he does is stop the run.  All the other team has to do is throw the ball over the D.  Either get rid of them all or keep them all.

  • @thenew23 said:

    No. No. No! IF (big if) Haslman wants to restart... again. He has to do it right.  Hire a GM then let him pick the coach, then let him hire his coaching staff.  Suggest he keep Williams on D, but other than that, hire your guy at the top, then get the HELL out of the way.

    Thats the ONLY way it works!!

    Why Keep Williams, all he does is stop the run.  All the other team has to do is throw the ball over the D.  Either get rid of them all or keep them all.

    @dawg2fan said:

    Why Keep Williams, all he does is stop the run.  All the other team has to do is throw the ball over the D.  Either get rid of them all or keep them all.

    Exactly. Said it at the game, with Peppers playing a mile deep we're getting killed on intermediate routes.

  • If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.

    all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.

  • If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.

    all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.

    @clevfan4life said:

    If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.

    all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.

    You need more fiber in your diet. 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.

    all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.

    You need more fiber in your diet. 

    @d-bone said:

    You need more fiber in your diet. 

    Ur not wrong. Fiber brings "consistency" yes? I like consistency, consistency bring regularity. I like regularity......in both my bowel movements AND MY CLEVELAND BROWNS FUKKING DEFENSIVE SCHEMES

    ☕️

  • You guys are actually gonna act like you’re vindicated because Hairtrigger Jimmy might agree with you on something? Lol ok. 

    @wargograw said:

    You guys are actually gonna act like you’re vindicated because Hairtrigger Jimmy might agree with you on something? Lol ok. 

    I don't agree wit Jimmy, Jimmy is the problem, dare I say Jimmy is the #1 enemy (a Steelers loving crook).

  • Everytime I hear of one of these purges I remember the old sayings it's easier to get rid of one manager than 25 players or one coach than 53 players.

    Same with the FO, you're chopping off the head of the snake.....you're still stuck with the carcass for a long time until it rots away.

    And the Cleveland Browns revolving door of futility continues, NEXT!

  • I've heard from a couple of different reporters, that Kenny Britt is not hurt...he got benched by Hue.

    Just think, the morons in the FO that gave Britt a 4 year $32 million dollar deal, got benched after his 5th game of the season in his first year.

    And is there any Browns fan that has confidence in letting these same clowns pick in the upcoming draft?

  • I've heard from a couple of different reporters, that Kenny Britt is not hurt...he got benched by Hue.

    Just think, the morons in the FO that gave Britt a 4 year $32 million dollar deal, got benched after his 5th game of the season in his first year.

    And is there any Browns fan that has confidence in letting these same clowns pick in the upcoming draft?

    @canton-dawg said:

    I've heard from a couple of different reporters, that Kenny Britt is not hurt...he got benched by Hue.

    Just think, the morons in the FO that gave Britt a 4 year $32 million dollar deal, got benched after his 5th game of the season in his first year.

    And is there any Browns fan that has confidence in letting these same clowns pick in the upcoming draft?

    Exactly...I've been saying this for several years. Why do we get excited about first round draft picks?...why do we suggest trading for more draft picks? If we've proven anything, it's that we have no idea how to judge talent. We always get stuck with these arrogant geniuses who are " smarter than everyone else", so they pass on the obvious choice, to pick some loser. Yes, Jimmy...fire all their asses today!...screw the idiots who say you have a quick trigger finger. It's your team, correct your mistakes. But, then...please hire knowledgeable, sincere football people to turn this crap into a real professional football team. Oh....if it's true Britt was benched, I have no problem with it. He sucks, and should be wearing a ski mask when he accepts his pay check. Another washed up, overrated player that these idiots picked up.

  • @browns149 said:

    HIRE PEYTON MANNING 

    Can we actually hire someone with front office experience instead of a sexy name with no coaching or front office experience please?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Can we actually hire someone with front office experience instead of a sexy name with no coaching or front office experience please?

    Peyton would likely bring someone like Bill Polian on with him....to consult or otherwise.

  • Well whomever they reached out to isn't currently employed as I believe contact with any current FO member or Exec is prohibited during this part of the year.  

    I.E.... Peyton.  

  • Well whomever they reached out to isn't currently employed as I believe contact with any current FO member or Exec is prohibited during this part of the year.  

    I.E.... Peyton.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Well whomever they reached out to isn't currently employed as I believe contact with any current FO member or Exec is prohibited during this part of the year.  

    I.E.... Peyton.  

    Theres nothing to stop Jimmy and Peyton from talking behind closed doors...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Well whomever they reached out to isn't currently employed as I believe contact with any current FO member or Exec is prohibited during this part of the year.  

    I.E.... Peyton.  

    Theres nothing to stop Jimmy and Peyton from talking behind closed doors...

    @nickers said:

    Theres nothing to stop Jimmy and Peyton from talking behind closed doors...

    There is nothing to stop them from talking openly from what I understand, other than courtesy to the guys under contract and the desire to keep any talks quiet.

  • So many elite players we've had on the board and traded away since 2014

    The Raiders essentially rebuilt  their team by drafting the two guys we should have. Mack and Carr

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2017/10/15/report-browns-begin-searching-for-new-football-executive/

    The only part I put any faith in is the denial of the the "report" which interestingly labels it both "false" and "erroneous".

    That said... I have to ask "why the use of two words in the denial that are essentially synonyms?"

    One potential explanation is that while we are "searching" we are not looking for a new "GM guru", but rather lower positions. In this case the report is false in that we are not looking for a new top dog, but also is erroneous because we are looking.

    I have no doubt we are looking to add "football" talent to the FO. Doing so is part of the FO process. I've written about this before. It's a key element of any continuous improvement process. Some members of the FO now have two years of track record. The weakest of these, likely 10 - 20% of the staff, are prime candidates for dismissal either for prospects they backed or prospects they failed to ID. And either way these prospects don't have to be on our roster for their work to be evaluated.

    I even feel it is likely our FO is emphasizing adding/ improving talent in QB evaluation. While I am not ready to anoint every young QB we have passed on, even ones with more of a resume' such as Wentz, let alone the early flashes that are Watson and Trubs, our need to sharpen our evaluation capability is looking evermore important with the looming QB class... and our continuing need at the position. This could even involve the use of P. Manning as a "Special Consultant".

  • One more thing...

    If I am wrong and we revert to a traditional, football guru at the top FO...

    ... then I am outta here...

  • So many elite players we've had on the board and traded away since 2014

    The Raiders essentially rebuilt  their team by drafting the two guys we should have. Mack and Carr

    @sd_tom said:

    So many elite players we've had on the board and traded away since 2014

    The Raiders essentially rebuilt  their team by drafting the two guys we should have. Mack and Carr

    I hate hearing from people on this board talking about players we should have taken.  If we had taken Carr, he would've been more beat up than he is now.  The fact is we've been trying to get good talent, but we don't give coaches enough time.  Our fans want the coaches to go after one or two years.  I still think we need to give them at least 3-5 years.  Again, no team has a worse record than we do when it comes to firing coaches.  How many have we had since '99?  I forgot.

  • One more thing...

    If I am wrong and we revert to a traditional, football guru at the top FO...

    ... then I am outta here...

    @tour2ma said:

    One more thing...

    If I am wrong and we revert to a traditional, football guru at the top FO...

    ... then I am outta here...

    Why? 

  • One more thing...

    If I am wrong and we revert to a traditional, football guru at the top FO...

    ... then I am outta here...

    @tour2ma said:

    One more thing...

    If I am wrong and we revert to a traditional, football guru at the top FO...

    ... then I am outta here...

    Tour, Hue I'm not sure about- the post game ranting was just more frustration. We haven't drafted that poorly. Garrett, Peppers, Njoku all ok in my book. You know how I feel about Kizer. But after Hogan stunk the place up, we're going to see Deshone sooner than later. I'll shoot you a PM later tonight when I get home.

  • One more thing...

    If I am wrong and we revert to a traditional, football guru at the top FO...

    ... then I am outta here...

    @tour2ma said:

    One more thing...

    If I am wrong and we revert to a traditional, football guru at the top FO...

    ... then I am outta here...

    Aw, come on, we're Browns fans for life, regardless of how bad we suck. And you know the suckage is extreme, when a Texans fan feels so sorry for you they bought me a Heineken. ?