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Prop 8 Upheld in Cali Supreme Court

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  • P Pumpkin Eater

    But Gay people do have equal rights.

    They can marry any consenting, unmarried adult of the opposite sex. Just like straight people can.

    It's not an equal rights issue. It's more about redefining marriage in the eyes of the law, which is different than marriage in the eyes of any particular religion.

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    ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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    @pumpkin-eater said:

    But Gay people do have equal rights. They can marry any consenting, unmarried adult of the opposite sex. Just like straight people can.

    Ha.

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      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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      I'm just looking at it the way the legal system is going to be required to look at it.

      I don't know how I feel on the issue, but it is important for everyone to remember that there is an issue of seperating church from state, as the legal definition from marriage has always been different and seperate from the religious views of marriage.

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      • P Pumpkin Eater

        But Gay people do have equal rights.

        They can marry any consenting, unmarried adult of the opposite sex. Just like straight people can.

        It's not an equal rights issue. It's more about redefining marriage in the eyes of the law, which is different than marriage in the eyes of any particular religion.

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        @pumpkin-eater said:

        But Gay people do have equal rights.

        They can marry any consenting, unmarried adult of the opposite sex. Just like straight people can.

        It's not an equal rights issue. It's more about redefining marriage in the eyes of the law, which is different than marriage in the eyes of any particular religion.

        It is really about money.

        The only real thing gays can't do as a norm concern matters of insurance and taxes. Everything else can happen for them.

        They have equal rights.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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          you just said....except for taxes and insurance.

          so no, they dont.

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          • chocoC choco

            you just said....except for taxes and insurance.

            so no, they dont.

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            C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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            @choco said:

            you just said....except for taxes and insurance.

            so no, they dont.

            I say let them pay taxes and buy insurance, then. That was simple.

            "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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            • chocoC choco

              you just said....except for taxes and insurance.

              so no, they dont.

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              P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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              @choco said:

              you just said....except for taxes and insurance.

              so no, they dont.

              actually, they do. They can get insurance for their spouse, just like anyone else can.

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                chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                can they file jointly?

                uh huh.....

                can they get insurance thru their spouses employer?

                uh huh.....

                this is discrimination based on gender......

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                  can they file jointly?

                  uh huh.....

                  can they get insurance thru their spouses employer?

                  uh huh.....

                  this is discrimination based on gender......

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                  P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                  @choco said:

                  can they file jointly?

                  uh huh.....

                  can they get insurance thru their spouses employer?

                  uh huh.....

                  this is discrimination based on gender......

                  yes, they can, just like anyone else can with their legally recognized spouse. They can enter a legal marriage and get the same benefits as anyone else.

                  Gender? huh?

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                  • chocoC choco

                    can they file jointly?

                    uh huh.....

                    can they get insurance thru their spouses employer?

                    uh huh.....

                    this is discrimination based on gender......

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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @choco said:

                    can they file jointly?

                    uh huh.....

                    can they get insurance thru their spouses employer?

                    uh huh.....

                    this is discrimination based on gender......

                    Don't worry "choco" you and mz the pussy can move to Maine and get hitched. 😆

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      @choco said:

                      can they file jointly?

                      uh huh.....

                      can they get insurance thru their spouses employer?

                      uh huh.....

                      this is discrimination based on gender......

                      Don't worry "choco" you and mz the pussy can move to Maine and get hitched. 😆

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                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                      Don't worry "choco" you and mz the pussy can move to Maine and get hitched. 😆

                      Yes. Because in order to care about how gays are treated in society you have to be gay yourself.

                      You're very smart and not-at-all self-serving to the max.

                      Here's the 🙄, you know, just in case.......

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                      • chocoC choco

                        you just said....except for taxes and insurance.

                        so no, they dont.

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                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                        @choco said:

                        you just said....except for taxes and insurance.

                        so no, they dont.

                        Right...and in another post somewhere on here I said that was easy to fix.

                        It doesn't take marriage to do that.

                        I know some of you want the world void of God......well, that won't work, and this is a Nation under God....or so it was.

                        Really...I am at the point I think this country needs to split up. The divides are too great because we are talking about beliefs. They transcend law's of any land.

                        Serious question, would you be concerned if this country split in to 2-3 countries??

                        If so, why??

                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                          @choco said:

                          you just said....except for taxes and insurance.

                          so no, they dont.

                          Right...and in another post somewhere on here I said that was easy to fix.

                          It doesn't take marriage to do that.

                          I know some of you want the world void of God......well, that won't work, and this is a Nation under God....or so it was.

                          Really...I am at the point I think this country needs to split up. The divides are too great because we are talking about beliefs. They transcend law's of any land.

                          Serious question, would you be concerned if this country split in to 2-3 countries??

                          If so, why??

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                          @ballpeen said:

                          I know some of you want the world void of God......

                          So it was God who said fags can't marry???

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                            @ballpeen said:

                            I know some of you want the world void of God......

                            So it was God who said fags can't marry???

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                            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                            mz. said:

                            So it was God who said fags can't marry???

                            Forget it kid. You are simply interested in smack talk. I just don't have the time for you.

                            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                              @choco said:

                              can they file jointly?

                              uh huh.....

                              can they get insurance thru their spouses employer?

                              uh huh.....

                              this is discrimination based on gender......

                              Don't worry "choco" you and mz the pussy can move to Maine and get hitched. 😆

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                              @diehardbrownsfan said:

                              Don't worry "choco" you and mz the pussy can move to Maine and get hitched. 😆

                              and they can adopt

                              Kordell Stewart & Big Ben have been the butt of gay jokes (pun intended) and it turns out his Steelers teammates feel the same way.
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                                mz. said:

                                So it was God who said fags can't marry???

                                Forget it kid. You are simply interested in smack talk. I just don't have the time for you.

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                                @ballpeen said:

                                Forget it kid. You are simply interested in smack talk. I just don't have the time for you.

                                It was a serious question. I want to know who is making the rules around here.

                                But whatever.

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                                  @ballpeen said:

                                  Forget it kid. You are simply interested in smack talk. I just don't have the time for you.

                                  It was a serious question. I want to know who is making the rules around here.

                                  But whatever.

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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                  mz. said:

                                  It was a serious question. I want to know who is making the rules around here.

                                  But whatever.

                                  Right...God makes all the rules my friend.

                                  I hope some day that becomes apparent to you.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    mz. said:

                                    It was a serious question. I want to know who is making the rules around here.

                                    But whatever.

                                    Right...God makes all the rules my friend.

                                    I hope some day that becomes apparent to you.

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                                    @ballpeen said:

                                    Right...God makes all the rules my friend.

                                    I hope some day that becomes apparent to you.

                                    Well then...guess there's no room for debate there.

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                                      @ballpeen said:

                                      Right...God makes all the rules my friend.

                                      I hope some day that becomes apparent to you.

                                      Well then...guess there's no room for debate there.

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                                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                      mz. said:

                                      Well then...guess there's no room for debate there.

                                      Now you get it.

                                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                        I've seen the light!

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                                          I've seen the light!

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                                          mz. said:

                                          I've seen the light!

                                          You lifted Cals balls and there it was!!!!

                                          (sorry)

                                          BTW isn't it ironic how the "will of the people " shifts from bad to good depending on what you want?

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