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If we have to take a QB in 2018........?????

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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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      If, for example, the Browns and 49ers tie for the worst record, the team with the WEAKER strength of schedule picks first.

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        This is not a good QB DRAFT class. No sure fire starters worthy of an over all Number 1 selection.

        Potential, yes. Number 1 pick over all pottential ...... I'm just not seeing it.

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          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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          Just watched a LB named Tanking play at Kansas State but there was this Brady Tude guy at Oklahoma named Baker Mayfield..Man that kid is fun to watch  

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            This is not a good QB DRAFT class. No sure fire starters worthy of an over all Number 1 selection.

            Potential, yes. Number 1 pick over all pottential ...... I'm just not seeing it.

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            Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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            @furious-styles said:

            This is not a good QB DRAFT class. No sure fire starters worthy of an over all Number 1 selection.

            Potential, yes. Number 1 pick over all pottential ...... I'm just not seeing it.

            If this is true, then we can count on the FO to trade back and accumulate 9 fourth round picks that will be future PS players.

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              It sure seems like Sam Darnold's draft stock is shitting the bed. Losing 28-0 to Notre Dame at half.

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                jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                Screw drafting one,  pay Cousins enough to bring him here. Proven commodity, we can't afford any more lottery tickets at QB. Alternatively if Brisset takes Indy to the playoffs perhaps we can trade picks for Luck?

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                  This is not a good QB DRAFT class. No sure fire starters worthy of an over all Number 1 selection.

                  Potential, yes. Number 1 pick over all pottential ...... I'm just not seeing it.

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                  @furious-styles said:

                  This is not a good QB DRAFT class. No sure fire starters worthy of an over all Number 1 selection.

                  Potential, yes. Number 1 pick over all pottential ...... I'm just not seeing it.

                  I know but it's better than the one in which we took the 4th QB off the board.

                  I've often been a roll the dice on some low pick and hope he turns into Tom Brady. Maybe it's time to just make the damned investment.

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                    Screw drafting one,  pay Cousins enough to bring him here. Proven commodity, we can't afford any more lottery tickets at QB. Alternatively if Brisset takes Indy to the playoffs perhaps we can trade picks for Luck?

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                    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                    @jcam222 said:

                    Screw drafting one,  pay Cousins enough to bring him here. Proven commodity, we can't afford any more lottery tickets at QB. Alternatively if Brisset takes Indy to the playoffs perhaps we can trade picks for Luck?

                    Amen to cousins brother. 

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                      What does #1 #3 mean?

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                        Screw drafting one,  pay Cousins enough to bring him here. Proven commodity, we can't afford any more lottery tickets at QB. Alternatively if Brisset takes Indy to the playoffs perhaps we can trade picks for Luck?

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                        @jcam222 said:

                        Screw drafting one,  pay Cousins enough to bring him here. Proven commodity, we can't afford any more lottery tickets at QB. Alternatively if Brisset takes Indy to the playoffs perhaps we can trade picks for Luck?

                        Cousins would be my #1 target, and I would throw enough money at him that he couldn't refuse. 

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                          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                          I wonder what the Colts would ask for to get Luck.

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                            jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                            I started talking about Andrew Luck this week, and it's worth exploring. Obviously it depends on his health, but it's something that could really turn us around quickly if we were to also acquire some WRs. 

                            I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I do NOT like this group of QBs at THIS POINT. There's still a lot of time for things to change, but I'm not seeing anything from anyone that tells me "we have to draft this guy". The only guy that really has me thinking is Lamar Jackson, and I just don't know if he can truly carry an NFL loaf. Deshaun Watson is actually helping his draft status immensely, but Watson was a senior who was much more established as a passer. Lamar is much more prolific as a runner, and I don't think we've EVER SEEN a QB with his level of speed, size, and agility. But you really don't want a running QB in the pros, and Lamar must be able to win from the pocket and do it consistently to be able to make it for any length of time. 

                            Lamar beat my Noles again, and didn't really have his best game. Actually, I take that back. He would've won easily if his receivers caught his two PERFECTLY thrown deep balls. I mean they were magnificent. Lamar CAN definitely throw the deep ball, it's whether or not he can master other routes in NFL playbooks. He's also very young, and I'd probably prefer another year of college before throwing him out on the field. This won't happen before he'll be mocked in the top 10, and he'd be a fool not to take the money. 

                            We aren't going to tank, but it's also likely we aren't going to win a game either. We simply don't have the necessary offensive talent to score those pesky touchdowns, and our receivers are laughably terrible. Kizer can't win with these schmucks, even if he actually threw it to the correct team all game. There are two or three games we COULD win, but everything would have to go right, and we all know that generally doesn't happen for us. We need Coleman back, but I'm not sure when that will be. Maybe 4 weeks from now? What we REALLY need is Josh Gordon AND Corey Coleman back, but Josh hasn't even APPLIED for reinstatement yet, and we are way too smart to ever get our hopes up for him. Britt is about to get cut, our other receivers are miserable, and Kizer hasn't displayed the ability to get better anyway. 

                            Kizer doesn't have to be completely amazing for this year to be considered a success, but he does obviously have to play much better. What really hurts is he's ALMOST done that, but his red zone efficiency has been so completely awful that it overshadows anything else he's done. If Kizer can somehow fix the red zone woes, it's possible he can salvage this season and give our team a chance to win a couple. Even if we just settle for FG's and take 3 points, that's infinitely better than the terrible turnovers. But...that's not a failsafe either because our poor kicker is miserable and I still don't trust Hue Jackson calling plays in the red zone. Hue needs to step up and Kizer needs to execute. WE NEED MORE POINTS. 

                            I like the fact Kizer called the players only meeting. I like the fact he got to sit and experience what that felt like. I like the fact he appears to take this very seriously and he seems to understand what's at stake. I've all but written Kizer off, but I've been wrong before and I realize he's VERY young. He needs to find a way to make some plays without turning it over, and our other players and coaches need to do everything in their power to help him out. That being said....here's my official prediction for today. 

                            Browns - 13

                            Titans - 34

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                              Screw drafting one,  pay Cousins enough to bring him here. Proven commodity, we can't afford any more lottery tickets at QB. Alternatively if Brisset takes Indy to the playoffs perhaps we can trade picks for Luck?

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                              @jcam222 said:

                              Screw drafting one,  pay Cousins enough to bring him here. Proven commodity, we can't afford any more lottery tickets at QB. Alternatively if Brisset takes Indy to the playoffs perhaps we can trade picks for Luck?

                              Send Cousins the San Francisco especially if they have the first pick.

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                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                It takes two to tango, and I'm not sure there's enough money in the world to convince a free agent like Cousins to come here when he's got options to go ANYWHERE/SOMEWHERE else.

                                If he's going to a shitty team, you'd think he'd go to San Fran, where he has a connection with Shanahan.

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                                  What does #1 #3 mean?

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                                  OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                  @wargograw said:

                                  What does #1 #3 mean?

                                  I believe he means round 1 pick 3.   (an educated guess)

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                                    I wonder what the Colts would ask for to get Luck.

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    @tiamat63 said:

                                    I wonder what the Colts would ask for to get Luck.

                                    What did the Redskins give up to the Rams to get RGIII?

                                    Multiply that by 2.

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                                      This is not a good QB DRAFT class. No sure fire starters worthy of an over all Number 1 selection.

                                      Potential, yes. Number 1 pick over all pottential ...... I'm just not seeing it.

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                                      GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                                      @furious-styles said:

                                      This is not a good QB DRAFT class. No sure fire starters worthy of an over all Number 1 selection.

                                      Potential, yes. Number 1 pick over all pottential ...... I'm just not seeing it.

                                      I don t know why the statement "this is not a good QB class" comes up each and every year but it does. We have stood back based on rhat euphemism and watched quite a few really good qbs get taken.

                                      I think the Browns have been crippled by fear and their failure to parricipate in rhe top QB market has been a mistake.

                                      That said, Kizer looks good today. The team continues to jurr irself with penalties

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                                        Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by
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                                        We have to.  Those who haven't started the watch, it's probably time.

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                                          @furious-styles said:

                                          This is not a good QB DRAFT class. No sure fire starters worthy of an over all Number 1 selection.

                                          Potential, yes. Number 1 pick over all pottential ...... I'm just not seeing it.

                                          I don t know why the statement "this is not a good QB class" comes up each and every year but it does. We have stood back based on rhat euphemism and watched quite a few really good qbs get taken.

                                          I think the Browns have been crippled by fear and their failure to parricipate in rhe top QB market has been a mistake.

                                          That said, Kizer looks good today. The team continues to jurr irself with penalties

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                                          F Furious Styles wrote on last edited by Furious Styles
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                                          @ghoolie said:

                                          I don t know why the statement "this is not a good QB class" comes up each and every year but it does. We have stood back based on rhat euphemism and watched quite a few really good qbs get taken.

                                          I think the Browns have been crippled by fear and their failure to parricipate in rhe top QB market has been a mistake.

                                          That said, Kizer looks good today. The team continues to jurr irself with penalties

                                          I wasn't one to say that in past drafts as I am not a believer in trading down. I believe in drafting elite players as drafting early allows you to do. I would have drafted several QB's Browns passed on.

                                          I go on record as making the QB statement for THIS upcoming draft. There will be a successful QB in the upcoming draft, the question is (draft spot aside) will the  Browns select the right one ?

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