Kizer partied Friday Night
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Honestly, cal, it wasn't... not even close to his worst showing... not close to his Cinci outing.
I'll tell you how bad it is... I haven't even watched the game yet. I was at the sold flip house digging for a second septic
tank, then we painted the front brick on the other flip house, and I only heard the last 8 minutes.
Or, I'd be more irate... LOL Oh, and I have to get a couple of truckloads of firewood into the barn, and other stuff...
may be working an all nighter because I didn't get to do it over this weekend, and it's supposed to rain in the morning.
I'll tell you how bad it is... I haven't even watched the game yet. I was at the sold flip house digging for a second septic
tank, then we painted the front brick on the other flip house, and I only heard the last 8 minutes.
Or, I'd be more irate... LOL Oh, and I have to get a couple of truckloads of firewood into the barn, and other stuff...
may be working an all nighter because I didn't get to do it over this weekend, and it's supposed to rain in the morning.
lol... well... that'll teach you for getting your knee fixed...
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I love the "the players are undisciplined under Hue so Williams should be the HC" narrative.
Hard-nose Williams's players were jumping offsides all freakin' day today.
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These wr's arent bringing ANY free agent qb here next year. No chance. Cousins isnt coming here to bounce balls off clev browns wr's actual ballsacks
These wr's arent bringing ANY free agent qb here next year. No chance. Cousins isnt coming here to bounce balls off clev browns wr's actual ballsacks
I disagree. If we can get Cousins via free agency our QB is solidified for years. With the draft assets we have left then we can make dramatic progress. Barkley for sure. WR has several good FA's (Robinson and Landry) or trade a pick for a stud. No more scratch offs, buy a known stud QB.
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These wr's arent bringing ANY free agent qb here next year. No chance. Cousins isnt coming here to bounce balls off clev browns wr's actual ballsacks
I disagree. If we can get Cousins via free agency our QB is solidified for years. With the draft assets we have left then we can make dramatic progress. Barkley for sure. WR has several good FA's (Robinson and Landry) or trade a pick for a stud. No more scratch offs, buy a known stud QB.
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These kind of stories are a bit silly, honestly. If Kizer was normally an accurate passer and astute decision maker, and if his partying caused today's performance to be totally crappy then I could see blasting him. But his play today was pretty much in line with how he normally plays, In all honesty, he is a free man, not a slave, not a school child, plenty of people party on the weekend and are ready to go come work time. Given he is stinking up the place, I understand how many fans will be appalled by his partying, but people, he's a 21 year old sports celebrity, not a nun. This is what kids do. Had he performed well this wouldn't even be an issue. I don't think his drinking had anything to do with anything. He had plenty of time to sleep it off and get rested.
I would have left the kid in the game. The game was still manageable and winnable.
This is a shortcoming of Hue. Quit wiping Kizers snotz, let him dig himself out. I would have left him in. Putting Kessler in, to me, made no sense.
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Yeah im done with this kid after hearing this. The week after u get benched and two days after the coach announces u get ur job back, ur out drinking? God dam stay at home play Shmucking xbox, invite some football groupies over....whatever. Just dont be out. What dumbass kid watched the manziel fiasco here and diesnt get it?
i hate saying it early, and maybe some people will hate me for it, but I'm completely off the Kizer train....
I don't think he's the answer. I understand it was an experiment, but at this time, let him sit and learn and become a backup.
Hue said our goal is to win every week, and if players make mistakes or turn the ball over, there's other players that can play. He's clearly frustrated, and probably upset Kizer not only played bad, but also got drunk friday night.
How's a 21 year old who parties Friday before a Sunday morning game going to lead our men to victory? Hogan, and Kessler clearly want the job more.
Pick one of them, just one of the three and stick with them. No more "I hope Kizer is the starter at the end of the year" from Hue..... I hate that Sheet. Here's what I think.
Hue liked Watson and Wentz, the FO didn't. They liked Kizer, although Hue picked Kessler last year. They also pressured Hue to start Kizer. They had to of, to evaluate where he stands and his potential.
The flip flopping is discrediting every idea I had of the FO's "plan" for the QB position.
Pick one of them, just one of the three and stick with them.
And what if that’s Kizer?
I'll tell you how bad it is... I haven't even watched the game yet. I was at the sold flip house digging for a second septic
tank, then we painted the front brick on the other flip house, and I only heard the last 8 minutes.
Or, I'd be more irate... LOL Oh, and I have to get a couple of truckloads of firewood into the barn, and other stuff...
may be working an all nighter because I didn't get to do it over this weekend, and it's supposed to rain in the morning.
Then how can you say this was Kizer’s worst game?
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These kind of stories are a bit silly, honestly. If Kizer was normally an accurate passer and astute decision maker, and if his partying caused today's performance to be totally crappy then I could see blasting him. But his play today was pretty much in line with how he normally plays, In all honesty, he is a free man, not a slave, not a school child, plenty of people party on the weekend and are ready to go come work time. Given he is stinking up the place, I understand how many fans will be appalled by his partying, but people, he's a 21 year old sports celebrity, not a nun. This is what kids do. Had he performed well this wouldn't even be an issue. I don't think his drinking had anything to do with anything. He had plenty of time to sleep it off and get rested.
I would have left the kid in the game. The game was still manageable and winnable.
This is a shortcoming of Hue. Quit wiping Kizers snotz, let him dig himself out. I would have left him in. Putting Kessler in, to me, made no sense.
Had he performed well this wouldn't even be an issue.
But he didn't perform well, and that's precisely why I don't like it. I get what you're saying, but Hue seems frustrated with him and yanked him for freaking Kessler. That speaks volumes of uncertainty. Hue is in panic mode and trying to win, and we don't have 2-3 years to develop Kizer which is what I predicted we needed. Kessler his rookie season was LIGHT YEARS better than Kizer.
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Pick one of them, just one of the three and stick with them.
And what if that’s Kizer?
I'll tell you how bad it is... I haven't even watched the game yet. I was at the sold flip house digging for a second septic
tank, then we painted the front brick on the other flip house, and I only heard the last 8 minutes.
Or, I'd be more irate... LOL Oh, and I have to get a couple of truckloads of firewood into the barn, and other stuff...
may be working an all nighter because I didn't get to do it over this weekend, and it's supposed to rain in the morning.
Then how can you say this was Kizer’s worst game?
And what if that’s Kizer?
Then stick with him and don't yank him. That is pathetic. If he yanks Kizer at halftime the next three Browns games how would you feel about that situation?
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Think about this.....
RGIII won our last game. Johnny won our second-last.
If the goal is WINNING, then......... ?
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It was 1:30. It was Friday night not Saturday night. Who cares?
WSS
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And what if that’s Kizer?
Then stick with him and don't yank him. That is pathetic. If he yanks Kizer at halftime the next three Browns games how would you feel about that situation?
Then stick with him and don't yank him. That is pathetic. If he yanks Kizer at halftime the next three Browns games how would you feel about that situation?
I agree it’s pathetic.
Bad. I already feel bad. Should have been sticking with Kizer all along.
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Then stick with him and don't yank him. That is pathetic. If he yanks Kizer at halftime the next three Browns games how would you feel about that situation?
I agree it’s pathetic.
Bad. I already feel bad. Should have been sticking with Kizer all along.
I agree it’s pathetic.
Bad. I already feel bad. Should have been sticking with Kizer all along.
I was shocked today when the camera panned to Kess coming out to play...... Hue is pushing panic button after panic button, but none of them are actually connected to anything.
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Totally disagree.
You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone?
I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular.
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Totally disagree.
You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone?
I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular.
Totally disagree.
You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone?
I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular.
I, and I'm sure a lot of his players, just can't get a grip on what Hue is trying to do. Win today? Sacrifice today at the benefit of tomorrow? I just don't know, and I'm convinced that he doesn't even know.
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Totally disagree.
You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone?
I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular.
I, and I'm sure a lot of his players, just can't get a grip on what Hue is trying to do. Win today? Sacrifice today at the benefit of tomorrow? I just don't know, and I'm convinced that he doesn't even know.
I, and I'm sure a lot of his players, just can't get a grip on what Hue is trying to do. Win today? Sacrifice today at the benefit of tomorrow? I just don't know, and I'm convinced that he doesn't even know.
You and me both.
I somewhat get the impression that Hue would have loved to keep Kizer on the bench for the start of the season, maybe until the bye week, but the other QBs on the roster didn't cooperate. Kessler and Osweiler did everything they could NOT to be named the starter in training camp/preseason, and while Hogan played decently when thrown into the fray, he looked laughably bad when given the shot as a starter.
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I thought by now Kizer would show SOME kind of improvement, but this last game was worse than pitiful.I think he just doesn't see it - timing, accuracy, progressions.....zilch. If I had to do a mock draft right now,Josh Allen would be my #1 pick of the draft - even at first overall. My second pick would be a wr...
Kirk... or Ridley. After that, who knows ...but three wr's in the draft might be necessary.
And, Hue runs an undisciplined offense, players like britt, coleman, kizer, lewis, higgins...don't care to play football, they just want a paycheck, and Hue apparently doesn't want to see it, and won't hammer down on players who don't care to win. Williams is a genuine wr... The offensive line, TE's, and rb's deserve a hell of a lot better than the qbs and wr's that are making this offense a farce. So do all the fans.
If Williams is named Interim HC tomorrow, I won't be a bit surprised. Nothing is going to improve while the offensive coaches allow some players to fart around on and off the field. I would have already had Kenny Britt out the door for his lackluster behavior on the field.
Kizer is struggling, and stayed out partying til 1 AM Friday night? I'll bet Trubisky and Wentz weren't out partying til 1 AM.
I thought by now Kizer would show SOME kind of improvement, but this last game was worse than pitiful.I think he just doesn't see it - timing, accuracy, progressions.....zilch. If I had to do a mock draft right now,Josh Allen would be my #1 pick of the draft - even at first overall. My second pick would be a wr...
Kirk... or Ridley. After that, who knows ...but three wr's in the draft might be necessary.
And, Hue runs an undisciplined offense, players like britt, coleman, kizer, lewis, higgins...don't care to play football, they just want a paycheck, and Hue apparently doesn't want to see it, and won't hammer down on players who don't care to win. Williams is a genuine wr... The offensive line, TE's, and rb's deserve a hell of a lot better than the qbs and wr's that are making this offense a farce. So do all the fans.
If Williams is named Interim HC tomorrow, I won't be a bit surprised. Nothing is going to improve while the offensive coaches allow some players to fart around on and off the field. I would have already had Kenny Britt out the door for his lackluster behavior on the field.
Kizer is struggling, and stayed out partying til 1 AM Friday night? I'll bet Trubisky and Wentz weren't out partying til 1 AM.
Then you obviously didn't watch Wyoming's game against Boise State. I did. Damn, I thought Kizer was the QB.
I agree it’s pathetic.
Bad. I already feel bad. Should have been sticking with Kizer all along.
War, I'll say this as nicely as possible. Hue's trying to win a game, in any way possible. He went over with Kizer how you can't turn the ball over. I'll even give Tour the benefit of the doubt, one of his interceptions slipped out of his hands. Hey- if 0-16 is your goal, Deshone is def your guy.
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Totally disagree.
You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone?
I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular.
Totally disagree.
You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone?
I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular.
You’d have a point if we had a QB better than Kizer. We don’t. Any QB can come in and provide a “spark” for a drive or two.
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I thought by now Kizer would show SOME kind of improvement, but this last game was worse than pitiful.I think he just doesn't see it - timing, accuracy, progressions.....zilch. If I had to do a mock draft right now,Josh Allen would be my #1 pick of the draft - even at first overall. My second pick would be a wr...
Kirk... or Ridley. After that, who knows ...but three wr's in the draft might be necessary.
And, Hue runs an undisciplined offense, players like britt, coleman, kizer, lewis, higgins...don't care to play football, they just want a paycheck, and Hue apparently doesn't want to see it, and won't hammer down on players who don't care to win. Williams is a genuine wr... The offensive line, TE's, and rb's deserve a hell of a lot better than the qbs and wr's that are making this offense a farce. So do all the fans.
If Williams is named Interim HC tomorrow, I won't be a bit surprised. Nothing is going to improve while the offensive coaches allow some players to fart around on and off the field. I would have already had Kenny Britt out the door for his lackluster behavior on the field.
Kizer is struggling, and stayed out partying til 1 AM Friday night? I'll bet Trubisky and Wentz weren't out partying til 1 AM.
Then you obviously didn't watch Wyoming's game against Boise State. I did. Damn, I thought Kizer was the QB.
I agree it’s pathetic.
Bad. I already feel bad. Should have been sticking with Kizer all along.
War, I'll say this as nicely as possible. Hue's trying to win a game, in any way possible. He went over with Kizer how you can't turn the ball over. I'll even give Tour the benefit of the doubt, one of his interceptions slipped out of his hands. Hey- if 0-16 is your goal, Deshone is def your guy.
Then you obviously didn't watch Wyoming's game against Boise State. I did. Damn, I thought Kizer was the QB
you nailed that one. I wanted to, didn't see it anywhere...
although, there are a few things you obviously missed:
A. Boise safety had a ton of respect for him
B. Boise State is no slouch - They were unbeaten last year. and Allen and the Cowboys beat them.
"Allen’s combined 193 yards accounted for nearly 80 percent of the Cowboys’ offensive output against the Broncos, but he also threw two interceptions.
“They did what we expected them to. They brought four most of the time, and they were able to find their way to me. It’s frustrating,” said Allen, who was sacked four times. “We’ve shown as a line we can play better than that — I can play better than that. I need to get rid of the football faster. I need to put it in more catchable situations for our receivers. You can’t point fingers, it’s a team game. I need to be better for this team.”
C. The Boise HC respects him hugely:
“He’s obviously a tremendous competitor. He’s a very gifted athlete,” Boise State coach Bryan Harsin said. “... He’s one of the best football players that we’ve played against.”
D. And Boise State's defense has been terrorizing backfields every game.
" Boise State’s STUD ends have terrorized opposing backfields all season, and continued Saturday night."
E. He isn't the whole team.
and...
for the fourth consecutive game, they had a different offensive line lineup.
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Totally disagree.
You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone?
I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular.
You’d have a point if we had a QB better than Kizer. We don’t. Any QB can come in and provide a “spark” for a drive or two.
You’d have a point if we had a QB better than Kizer. We don’t. Any QB can come in and provide a “spark” for a drive or two.
Fire Extinguisher Kizer.... Good to put out any drive...
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Pick one of them, just one of the three and stick with them.
And what if that’s Kizer?
I'll tell you how bad it is... I haven't even watched the game yet. I was at the sold flip house digging for a second septic
tank, then we painted the front brick on the other flip house, and I only heard the last 8 minutes.
Or, I'd be more irate... LOL Oh, and I have to get a couple of truckloads of firewood into the barn, and other stuff...
may be working an all nighter because I didn't get to do it over this weekend, and it's supposed to rain in the morning.
Then how can you say this was Kizer’s worst game?
Then how can you say this was Kizer’s worst game?
I did get irate updates from a few friends earlier on - that pretty much got me riled up even before i found it on the radio, by then,
Kessler was in there. .
they think Kizer will never get it. I say maybe he will...but most of his ints are just mind-boggling.
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