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  • I'm not sure what part of "rookie" team you guys don't understand.  When younsters come into the NFL, they're not ready for the NFL.  It takes a few years.  The only position I would question Hue on the the experienced QB and I know he tried with McCown. The other positions, you just have to let them grow.  And I do mean "ALL" of them.  

    @dawg2fan said:

    I'm not sure what part of "rookie" team you guys don't understand.  When younsters come into the NFL, they're not ready for the NFL.  It takes a few years.  The only position I would question Hue on the the experienced QB and I know he tried with McCown. The other positions, you just have to let them grow.  And I do mean "ALL" of them.  

    cowpoop! It's not like they are ALL rookies. These kids been playing football most of their young lives, and they still commit 15 penalties a game, throw costly interceptions, and turn the ball over? Maybe some of it is inexperience, maybe some of it is coaching, but they need to improve or else this is going to be another regime Sheet canned after 2 years and no one really wants that.. 

    So judging by your logic, Zeke wasn't ready last year when he came into the NFL and rushed for 1500 yards right? 

    Rookies have all training camp to learn the basics of the schemes, practice, etc. etc.

    2nd year vets and up all have the same amount of time, yet we still show up undisciplined and inept every Sunday and shoot ourselves in the finger? I don't get it..

    Kizer and co. haven't had any help not having Gordon or Coleman out there catching the ball...

    Kizer would rather stay out late and drink on a Friday night than go over his playbook, watch film, learn how to not turn the ball over..

    I'd go out drinking too on a Friday night if I played QB for this team.. 

     It's not like they are going to do Sheet on Sunday with our garbage butt receivers out there..

    On a side note, hope JT can recover and get back out there ASAP because Spencer Drango is pure garbage

  • Well when you look at the roster what side of the ball has all he draft picks that have hit or semi hit on? 

    On offense 

    Duke was a 3rd 

    Njoku was a 1st

    Crow was off the street. 

    WR core was out of the bargain bin. (Britt needs to be cut)

    The Oline and RB's get the job done. I think Duke's yard per carry before the game was over 5. Not sure what it is today.

    Bottom line they need to draft Offensive which shouldn't be an issue with all the picks and money they have. 

    I think this was the game plan all along. But I think they thought they could at leave steal a few games with the offense they have. 

  • @dawg2fan said:

    I'm not sure what part of "rookie" team you guys don't understand.  When younsters come into the NFL, they're not ready for the NFL.  It takes a few years.  The only position I would question Hue on the the experienced QB and I know he tried with McCown. The other positions, you just have to let them grow.  And I do mean "ALL" of them.  

    cowpoop! It's not like they are ALL rookies. These kids been playing football most of their young lives, and they still commit 15 penalties a game, throw costly interceptions, and turn the ball over? Maybe some of it is inexperience, maybe some of it is coaching, but they need to improve or else this is going to be another regime Sheet canned after 2 years and no one really wants that.. 

    So judging by your logic, Zeke wasn't ready last year when he came into the NFL and rushed for 1500 yards right? 

    Rookies have all training camp to learn the basics of the schemes, practice, etc. etc.

    2nd year vets and up all have the same amount of time, yet we still show up undisciplined and inept every Sunday and shoot ourselves in the finger? I don't get it..

    Kizer and co. haven't had any help not having Gordon or Coleman out there catching the ball...

    Kizer would rather stay out late and drink on a Friday night than go over his playbook, watch film, learn how to not turn the ball over..

    I'd go out drinking too on a Friday night if I played QB for this team.. 

     It's not like they are going to do Sheet on Sunday with our garbage butt receivers out there..

    On a side note, hope JT can recover and get back out there ASAP because Spencer Drango is pure garbage

    @domcucch1994 said:

    cowpoop! It's not like they are ALL rookies. These kids been playing football most of their young lives, and they still commit 15 penalties a game, throw costly interceptions, and turn the ball over?

    There is no sport like playing in the NFL.  You can look at pee wee, high school, or college.  I can promise you, nothing is like playing in the NFL.  This is why lots of the great players end up getting cut.  

    Maybe some of it is inexperience, maybe some of it is coaching, but they need to improve or else this is going to be another regime Sheet canned after 2 years and no one really wants that.. 

    Lots of it is inexperience.  Some coaching (not saying that Hue is a great coach).  

  • @dawg2fan said:

    I'm not sure what part of "rookie" team you guys don't understand.  When younsters come into the NFL, they're not ready for the NFL.  It takes a few years.  The only position I would question Hue on the the experienced QB and I know he tried with McCown. The other positions, you just have to let them grow.  And I do mean "ALL" of them.  

    cowpoop! It's not like they are ALL rookies. These kids been playing football most of their young lives, and they still commit 15 penalties a game, throw costly interceptions, and turn the ball over? Maybe some of it is inexperience, maybe some of it is coaching, but they need to improve or else this is going to be another regime Sheet canned after 2 years and no one really wants that.. 

    So judging by your logic, Zeke wasn't ready last year when he came into the NFL and rushed for 1500 yards right? 

    Rookies have all training camp to learn the basics of the schemes, practice, etc. etc.

    2nd year vets and up all have the same amount of time, yet we still show up undisciplined and inept every Sunday and shoot ourselves in the finger? I don't get it..

    Kizer and co. haven't had any help not having Gordon or Coleman out there catching the ball...

    Kizer would rather stay out late and drink on a Friday night than go over his playbook, watch film, learn how to not turn the ball over..

    I'd go out drinking too on a Friday night if I played QB for this team.. 

     It's not like they are going to do Sheet on Sunday with our garbage butt receivers out there..

    On a side note, hope JT can recover and get back out there ASAP because Spencer Drango is pure garbage

    @domcucch1994 said:

    cowpoop! It's not like they are ALL rookies. These kids been playing football most of their young lives, and they still commit 15 penalties a game, throw costly interceptions, and turn the ball over? Maybe some of it is inexperience, maybe some of it is coaching, but they need to improve or else this is going to be another regime Sheet canned after 2 years and no one really wants that.. 

    So judging by your logic, Zeke wasn't ready last year when he came into the NFL and rushed for 1500 yards right? 

    Rookies have all training camp to learn the basics of the schemes, practice, etc. etc.

    2nd year vets and up all have the same amount of time, yet we still show up undisciplined and inept every Sunday and shoot ourselves in the finger? I don't get it..

    Kizer and co. haven't had any help not having Gordon or Coleman out there catching the ball...

    Kizer would rather stay out late and drink on a Friday night than go over his playbook, watch film, learn how to not turn the ball over..

    I'd go out drinking too on a Friday night if I played QB for this team.. 

     It's not like they are going to do Sheet on Sunday with our garbage butt receivers out there..

    On a side note, hope JT can recover and get back out there ASAP because Spencer Drango is pure garbage

    So just because you can find some random examples of guys lighting it up (in perfect situations) as rookies (and at the easiest position on the field into which to transition in the NFL), that should be the norm for all of our draftees?

  • Kirk cousins is not coming to Cleveland sssholes, get over it. Oh he'll come here in a few years when he's washed up and wants one last mark to swindle into thinking he's still got it....but u dumb morher fukkers have to understand he's staying in washington unless a legit contender makes an offer. He's not leaving a mediocre team that if they add a few pieces could contend vs a complete fukking constantly rebuilding team.

    u guys have no prob wanting coaches out the door in 1-2 years then fantasize about what a great landing spot cleveland is for these FA qb's looking to play meaningful games in dec and jan. 

    Let me be perfectly clear.....no valuable FA qb is coming here to this coaching carousel. Lets say cousins likes hue and his system, do u think cousins has any expectation of stability in this franchise?

    Srsly, think about this. Some of us that have been howling about the coaching changes do so out of stability concerns more than love for a particular coach. 

  • Kirk cousins is not coming to Cleveland sssholes, get over it. Oh he'll come here in a few years when he's washed up and wants one last mark to swindle into thinking he's still got it....but u dumb morher fukkers have to understand he's staying in washington unless a legit contender makes an offer. He's not leaving a mediocre team that if they add a few pieces could contend vs a complete fukking constantly rebuilding team.

    u guys have no prob wanting coaches out the door in 1-2 years then fantasize about what a great landing spot cleveland is for these FA qb's looking to play meaningful games in dec and jan. 

    Let me be perfectly clear.....no valuable FA qb is coming here to this coaching carousel. Lets say cousins likes hue and his system, do u think cousins has any expectation of stability in this franchise?

    Srsly, think about this. Some of us that have been howling about the coaching changes do so out of stability concerns more than love for a particular coach. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    Kirk cousins is not coming to Cleveland sssholes, get over it. Oh he'll come here in a few years when he's washed up and wants one last mark to swindle into thinking he's still got it....but u dumb morher fukkers have to understand he's staying in washington unless a legit contender makes an offer. He's not leaving a mediocre team that if they add a few pieces could contend vs a complete fukking constantly rebuilding team.

    u guys have no prob wanting coaches out the door in 1-2 years then fantasize about what a great landing spot cleveland is for these FA qb's looking to play meaningful games in dec and jan. 

    Let me be perfectly clear.....no valuable FA qb is coming here to this coaching carousel. Lets say cousins likes hue and his system, do u think cousins has any expectation of stability in this franchise?

    Srsly, think about this. Some of us that have been howling about the coaching changes do so out of stability concerns more than love for a particular coach. 

    Stability does not come in a year and a half in the nfl. If we reboot every two years No one will want to come unless he sees an easy paycheck for years to come after they are gone 

  • Kirk will come if they offer enough dough..

    Hell we could of drafted this guy years back but nooooo... We gotta Browns it up every draft..

  • No.... he won't. Young Shanny in SF has the inside track and cap space to rival ours... $56 mm in 2018 vs. our $54mm.

  • Kirk cousins is not coming to Cleveland sssholes, get over it. Oh he'll come here in a few years when he's washed up and wants one last mark to swindle into thinking he's still got it....but u dumb morher fukkers have to understand he's staying in washington unless a legit contender makes an offer. He's not leaving a mediocre team that if they add a few pieces could contend vs a complete fukking constantly rebuilding team.

    u guys have no prob wanting coaches out the door in 1-2 years then fantasize about what a great landing spot cleveland is for these FA qb's looking to play meaningful games in dec and jan. 

    Let me be perfectly clear.....no valuable FA qb is coming here to this coaching carousel. Lets say cousins likes hue and his system, do u think cousins has any expectation of stability in this franchise?

    Srsly, think about this. Some of us that have been howling about the coaching changes do so out of stability concerns more than love for a particular coach. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    Kirk cousins is not coming to Cleveland sssholes, get over it. Oh he'll come here in a few years when he's washed up and wants one last mark to swindle into thinking he's still got it....but u dumb morher fukkers have to understand he's staying in washington unless a legit contender makes an offer. He's not leaving a mediocre team that if they add a few pieces could contend vs a complete fukking constantly rebuilding team.

    u guys have no prob wanting coaches out the door in 1-2 years then fantasize about what a great landing spot cleveland is for these FA qb's looking to play meaningful games in dec and jan. 

    Let me be perfectly clear.....no valuable FA qb is coming here to this coaching carousel. Lets say cousins likes hue and his system, do u think cousins has any expectation of stability in this franchise?

    Srsly, think about this. Some of us that have been howling about the coaching changes do so out of stability concerns more than love for a particular coach. 

    I love when people speak of the future in complete and totally certainty..... for the good, or the bad. I must have missed the memo that we have so many prophets among us common folk.

    Me? I like to speak of what I would like to see, don't want to see and afraid of what I will see...... Never in certainties though, as I remember all too vividly all of the fans in '95 who said "It's just a rumor...... our Browns will never leave". 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Kirk cousins is not coming to Cleveland sssholes, get over it. Oh he'll come here in a few years when he's washed up and wants one last mark to swindle into thinking he's still got it....but u dumb morher fukkers have to understand he's staying in washington unless a legit contender makes an offer. He's not leaving a mediocre team that if they add a few pieces could contend vs a complete fukking constantly rebuilding team.

    u guys have no prob wanting coaches out the door in 1-2 years then fantasize about what a great landing spot cleveland is for these FA qb's looking to play meaningful games in dec and jan. 

    Let me be perfectly clear.....no valuable FA qb is coming here to this coaching carousel. Lets say cousins likes hue and his system, do u think cousins has any expectation of stability in this franchise?

    Srsly, think about this. Some of us that have been howling about the coaching changes do so out of stability concerns more than love for a particular coach. 

    I love when people speak of the future in complete and totally certainty..... for the good, or the bad. I must have missed the memo that we have so many prophets among us common folk.

    Me? I like to speak of what I would like to see, don't want to see and afraid of what I will see...... Never in certainties though, as I remember all too vividly all of the fans in '95 who said "It's just a rumor...... our Browns will never leave". 

    @d-bone said:

    I love when people speak of the future in complete and totally certainty...

    So you do love me... 🙂

  • Kirk isny coming to this dumpster fire

  • Kirk will take the money so he can throw to the trade down WRs that Sashi grabs in the 5th round.

    No FA QB worth a squirt of piss is going to come to Cleveland unless it is a cash grab at the end of their career.

  • @d-bone said:

    I love when people speak of the future in complete and totally certainty...

    So you do love me... 🙂

    @tour2ma said:

    So you do love me... 🙂

    You're not toooo bad 😛

  • @tour2ma said:

    So you do love me... 🙂

    You're not toooo bad 😛

    @d-bone said:

    You're not toooo bad 😛


    You guys are almost as cute as the other couple on here - DieHard and miktoxic. 😆

  • Cal HOOOON.. From Minnesota to a straight up Dawg that even has Minnifield & Dixon looking.. No Buster Skrine jink here   

  • @d-bone said:

    You're not toooo bad 😛


    You guys are almost as cute as the other couple on here - DieHard and miktoxic. 😆

    @dutch-oven said:


    You guys are almost as cute as the other couple on here - DieHard and miktoxic. 😆

    Well... like they, we do laugh at the same things...

    Just different things from them...