Can we please stop turning on every new coach...
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I'm really not fond of searching for another coach, and like other people have said, who could we possibly bring in that would be any better? I like the idea of keeping Hue, searching for an OC, and also maybe...just maybe...providing Hue with some better talent. This is what I keep going back to: If you were an opposing defense, who would you REALLY be preparing for? Who scares you? What adjustments are you working on during the week? I mean, we really have nothing. You want to keep an eye on Duke, but other than that, you're going to crowd the line and make running it difficult, and then you're going to trust your defense to stop the limited weapons we toss out on the field. What I want to know, and what we'll probably NEVER know, is who Hue Jackson REALLY wanted to draft in the first round. Who did he really want at QB? I just don't think it was Kizer, but I could be mistaken. Kizer certainly has the physical traits Hue loves, but the guy has never been very accurate in his college career, so why would he be now?
This season is going to be even more miserable, and I hate it for the players and the fans. Losing Joe Thomas was just the nail in the coffin. We're playing a top 3 NFL defense this week, and everybody saw what our protection looked like when Joe exited the Titans game. It doesn't matter who the QB will be this week...they are in DEEP crap.
I'm really not fond of searching for another coach, and like other people have said, who could we possibly bring in that would be any better?
I agreed with this thinking as well...but Rams fans were saying the same thing about Jeff Fisher last season and the Rams went out and found some dude no one had heard of but he has clearly made a huge difference in the Rams offense and the play of Jared Goff who everyone was writing off as a bust last season (sound familiar?). Maybe a coach who will work with the talents of the QB, coach him up and see what happens. Hue should be taking lessons from the way the Rams are going right now. The HC doesn't even watch the defense, I can't remember the DC name but he's been around for years and is a great DC. Hue should go this route...just focus on the offense, when the defense is on the field sit with the QB and work with him until its time to go back on the field again.
So the point of "who could we bring in that's better?", I'm sure there's someone out there that's better, its just a matter of finding that person. Not sure the Harvard nerds are capable of finding that person though.
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Sean McVay was a fast riser under two WSH HCs... Shanahan and Gruden.
What made him a "tough find" IMO is that while the WSH Offense under him improved during his 3-year OC stint, it did not stand out statistically. That said, there was some "buzz" around him.
Of course there was buzz around Pet as well... and Hue...
Besides coming to a very talented team, what's made McVay a great rookie HC is handing the Defense to Wade Phillips... totally. I don't think he even involves himself in any aspect of the D as he spends all the time the D is on the field with his QB/Offense... and he has an OC to boot!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm really not fond of searching for another coach, and like other people have said, who could we possibly bring in that would be any better?
I agreed with this thinking as well...but Rams fans were saying the same thing about Jeff Fisher last season and the Rams went out and found some dude no one had heard of but he has clearly made a huge difference in the Rams offense and the play of Jared Goff who everyone was writing off as a bust last season (sound familiar?). Maybe a coach who will work with the talents of the QB, coach him up and see what happens. Hue should be taking lessons from the way the Rams are going right now. The HC doesn't even watch the defense, I can't remember the DC name but he's been around for years and is a great DC. Hue should go this route...just focus on the offense, when the defense is on the field sit with the QB and work with him until its time to go back on the field again.
So the point of "who could we bring in that's better?", I'm sure there's someone out there that's better, its just a matter of finding that person. Not sure the Harvard nerds are capable of finding that person though.
I agreed with this thinking as well...but Rams fans were saying the same thing about Jeff Fisher last season and the Rams went out and found some dude no one had heard of but he has clearly made a huge difference in the Rams offense and the play of Jared Goff who everyone was writing off as a bust last season (sound familiar?). Maybe a coach who will work with the talents of the QB, coach him up and see what happens. Hue should be taking lessons from the way the Rams are going right now. The HC doesn't even watch the defense, I can't remember the DC name but he's been around for years and is a great DC. Hue should go this route...just focus on the offense, when the defense is on the field sit with the QB and work with him until its time to go back on the field again.
So the point of "who could we bring in that's better?", I'm sure there's someone out there that's better, its just a matter of finding that person. Not sure the Harvard nerds are capable of finding that person though.
I would point warlovesjohnnyagogo to this post, but he wouldn't grasp its meaning anyway and would instead offer up a quick, witty, one liner attacking anyone for not being happy with '1-22 Hue'..... We need the right coach, not a coach "that everyone has heard of".
Great coaches are not great coaches until they're great coaches.
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Fun fact not everybody wants to hear..
Hooker isn't much of an upgrade over Peppers.. and his season's over now - ACL/MCL.
Yes he's made 3 picks, but giving up 3 TD's [out of the total of 8 plays targeting him this year] isn't exactly Canton material.
Fun fact not everybody wants to hear..
Hooker isn't much of an upgrade over Peppers.. and his season's over now - ACL/MCL.
Yes he's made 3 picks, but giving up 3 TD's [out of the total of 8 plays targeting him this year] isn't exactly Canton material.
Hooker isn't much of an upgrade over Peppers? What are you smoking?
Hooker's PFF Grade 77.3
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/malik-hooker/11770
Peppers PFF Grade 37.2
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/jabrill-peppers/11780
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
How dare you say negative things about Malik Hooker!
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I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Fun fact not everybody wants to hear..
Hooker isn't much of an upgrade over Peppers.. and his season's over now - ACL/MCL.
Yes he's made 3 picks, but giving up 3 TD's [out of the total of 8 plays targeting him this year] isn't exactly Canton material.
Hooker isn't much of an upgrade over Peppers? What are you smoking?
Hooker's PFF Grade 77.3
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/malik-hooker/11770
Peppers PFF Grade 37.2
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/jabrill-peppers/11780
Hooker isn't much of an upgrade over Peppers? What are you smoking?
Hooker's PFF Grade 77.3
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/malik-hooker/11770
Peppers PFF Grade 37.2
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/jabrill-peppers/11780
Do they play different positions? And Riddle me this: if Hooker had been playing 25-30 yards off the line of scrimmage, what would his PFF grade be?
I mean, how can you perform if you are not even in the play?
And also answer me this: with Peppers out, did Williams have his replacement playing back so far? It didn't look like it to me on Sunday....and from my point of view, the secondary played better because of it.
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I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
I don't know. Williams knows more about football than any of us, so there must be a reason. It isn't working so far.
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Hooker isn't much of an upgrade over Peppers? What are you smoking?
Hooker's PFF Grade 77.3
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/malik-hooker/11770
Peppers PFF Grade 37.2
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/jabrill-peppers/11780
Do they play different positions? And Riddle me this: if Hooker had been playing 25-30 yards off the line of scrimmage, what would his PFF grade be?
I mean, how can you perform if you are not even in the play?
And also answer me this: with Peppers out, did Williams have his replacement playing back so far? It didn't look like it to me on Sunday....and from my point of view, the secondary played better because of it.
Do they play different positions? And Riddle me this: if Hooker had been playing 25-30 yards off the line of scrimmage, what would his PFF grade be?
I mean, how can you perform if you are not even in the play?
And also answer me this: with Peppers out, did Williams have his replacement playing back so far? It didn't look like it to me on Sunday....and from my point of view, the secondary played better because of it.
Check out my post right above yours chief.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
No. It's all Peppers fault. "literally awful"
6 games of Malik Hooker are better than Peppers whole career and a 1st.
Get your head out of your butt! Sad!
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
No. It's all Peppers fault. "literally awful"
6 games of Malik Hooker are better than Peppers whole career and a 1st.
Get your head out of your butt! Sad!
6 games of Malik Hooker are better than Peppers whole career and a 1st.
If Peppers continues to play from the warning track, you make a valid point.
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So we’ve gone from “there’s only 32 jobs like this, of course we can get a stud” to “yeah we’ll get some bum but he’ll be a hidden gem.” Nice consistency.
Reading comprehension has never seemed to be your strong suit.
Reading comprehension has never seemed to be your strong suit.
I would point warlovesjohnnyagogo to this post, but he wouldn't grasp its meaning anyway and would instead offer up a quick, witty, one liner attacking anyone for not being happy with '1-22 Hue'..... We need the right coach, not a coach "that everyone has heard of".
Great coaches are not great coaches until they're great coaches.
Sooo what you're saying is that my reading comprehension was exactly right? I nailed your point to a T.
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I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
Yup... as I've said since Sunday... will be interesting to see if Pep's use changes in London.
Check out my post right above yours chief.
You ask the impossible...
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I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
No. It's all Peppers fault. "literally awful"
6 games of Malik Hooker are better than Peppers whole career and a 1st.
Get your head out of your butt! Sad!
No. It's all Peppers fault. "literally awful"
6 games of Malik Hooker are better than Peppers whole career and a 1st.
Get your head out of your butt! Sad!
Peppers looks like hes lost in a phone booth out there......
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Do they play different positions? And Riddle me this: if Hooker had been playing 25-30 yards off the line of scrimmage, what would his PFF grade be?
I mean, how can you perform if you are not even in the play?
And also answer me this: with Peppers out, did Williams have his replacement playing back so far? It didn't look like it to me on Sunday....and from my point of view, the secondary played better because of it.
Check out my post right above yours chief.
Check out my post right above yours chief.
I did. It did nothing to answer any of my questions.
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No. It's all Peppers fault. "literally awful"
6 games of Malik Hooker are better than Peppers whole career and a 1st.
Get your head out of your butt! Sad!
Peppers looks like hes lost in a phone booth out there......
Peppers looks like hes lost in a phone booth out there......
Peppers is absolute garbage.
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I can't lay too much of the blame on Peppers. Williams has him 30 yards off the LOS, and Peppers can't do a lot playing back that far.
Yup... as I've said since Sunday... will be interesting to see if Pep's use changes in London.
Check out my post right above yours chief.
You ask the impossible...
Yup... as I've said since Sunday... will be interesting to see if Pep's use changes in London.
You ask the impossible...
Stupid is as stupid does. His post provided nothing. He said that Peppers had been playing 30 yards off the LOS.....no Chit Cherlock. My question was whether or not his replacement was doing so. I say he wasn't. The other part asked about Hooker's PFF grade.
You inserted yourself in here with a comment that had nothing to do with nothing just to here yourself talk. Next time that you want to comment on two consecutive posts....maybe you should consider reading those posts first.
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Hooker isn't much of an upgrade over Peppers? What are you smoking?
Hooker's PFF Grade 77.3
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/malik-hooker/11770
Peppers PFF Grade 37.2
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/jabrill-peppers/11780
Do they play different positions? And Riddle me this: if Hooker had been playing 25-30 yards off the line of scrimmage, what would his PFF grade be?
I mean, how can you perform if you are not even in the play?
And also answer me this: with Peppers out, did Williams have his replacement playing back so far? It didn't look like it to me on Sunday....and from my point of view, the secondary played better because of it.
Do they play different positions?
No, they’re both safeties.
And Riddle me this: if Hooker had been playing 25-30 yards off the line of scrimmage, what would his PFF grade be?
I have no idea, the Indy DC actually knows how to utilize him. Do you think if Hue has Kizer throw the ball with his left hand, he would be better?
I mean, how can you perform if you are not even in the play?
A good question for Greg Williams.
And also answer me this: with Peppers out, did Williams have his replacement playing back so far? It didn't look like it to me on Sunday....and from my point of view, the secondary played better because of it.
Sounds like another question for Greg Williams.
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