This is Hue Jackson.. Nuff Said!
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I personally like that there is no evidence of improvement on offense. But it is all in the process of trying to lose as many games as possible with the worst, possibly historically bad, red zone offense.
There's certainly not enough improvement. But I think the OL's made strides such that once we have better WR and QB play, things should fire up pretty quickly. And that's what the next draft is for, if the whiners such as yourself can wait that long.
There's certainly not enough improvement. But I think the OL's made strides such that once we have better WR and QB play, things should fire up pretty quickly. And that's what the next draft is for, if the whiners such as yourself can wait that long.
We have heinous WR play because the gaggle of WRs that Sashi drafted all fell flat. So why should anyone feel confident that the current front office can pick the right talent? They basically used the shotgun method and still didn't find an average WR by accident. This has been my issue this year and it will likely be a problem next year unless Sashi and Co. bring someone in who can evaluate talent. They may do a great job at bringing in lots of swings at the ball but they need to actually get some regular hits.
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Let’s get the one about most of our fans where things are looking up—hot wife, promotion at work, healthy kid, etc.—and the guy wants to ditch the family and move to Vegas because they’re not millionaires yet.
Let’s get the one about most of our fans where things are looking up—hot wife, promotion at work, healthy kid, etc.—and the guy wants to ditch the family and move to Vegas because they’re not millionaires yet.
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Did anyone talk about Hue's decision to decline that penalty on 3rd down, when it made it 4th and 1 for the Titans in our territory? If you take the penalty, you give the offense a chance to pick up the first, but you also move them back 15 yards. That would've made the FG MUCH longer, right? And who knows, if you get a sack on 3rd down, they might be out of FG range all together. The decision didn't ultimately hurt us too badly, as we still held them to 3 points, but I didn't get the decision, and I don't understand the logic there.
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Did anyone talk about Hue's decision to decline that penalty on 3rd down, when it made it 4th and 1 for the Titans in our territory? If you take the penalty, you give the offense a chance to pick up the first, but you also move them back 15 yards. That would've made the FG MUCH longer, right? And who knows, if you get a sack on 3rd down, they might be out of FG range all together. The decision didn't ultimately hurt us too badly, as we still held them to 3 points, but I didn't get the decision, and I don't understand the logic there.
Did anyone talk about Hue's decision to decline that penalty on 3rd down, when it made it 4th and 1 for the Titans in our territory? If you take the penalty, you give the offense a chance to pick up the first, but you also move them back 15 yards. That would've made the FG MUCH longer, right? And who knows, if you get a sack on 3rd down, they might be out of FG range all together. The decision didn't ultimately hurt us too badly, as we still held them to 3 points, but I didn't get the decision, and I don't understand the logic there.
Just another Hue brain fart that contributes to the 1-22.
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Hue Jackson should have pleaded for Mr. Moneyball to take Carson Wentz..
End of discussion..
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There's certainly not enough improvement. But I think the OL's made strides such that once we have better WR and QB play, things should fire up pretty quickly. And that's what the next draft is for, if the whiners such as yourself can wait that long.
We have heinous WR play because the gaggle of WRs that Sashi drafted all fell flat. So why should anyone feel confident that the current front office can pick the right talent? They basically used the shotgun method and still didn't find an average WR by accident. This has been my issue this year and it will likely be a problem next year unless Sashi and Co. bring someone in who can evaluate talent. They may do a great job at bringing in lots of swings at the ball but they need to actually get some regular hits.
We have heinous WR play because the gaggle of WRs that Sashi drafted all fell flat. So why should anyone feel confident that the current front office can pick the right talent? They basically used the shotgun method and still didn't find an average WR by accident. This has been my issue this year and it will likely be a problem next year unless Sashi and Co. bring someone in who can evaluate talent. They may do a great job at bringing in lots of swings at the ball but they need to actually get some regular hits.
And they’ve hit on plenty of others. So scrap the whole FO because they missed out on 4 guys? Think man.
Did anyone talk about Hue's decision to decline that penalty on 3rd down, when it made it 4th and 1 for the Titans in our territory? If you take the penalty, you give the offense a chance to pick up the first, but you also move them back 15 yards. That would've made the FG MUCH longer, right? And who knows, if you get a sack on 3rd down, they might be out of FG range all together. The decision didn't ultimately hurt us too badly, as we still held them to 3 points, but I didn't get the decision, and I don't understand the logic there.
Nope. No one’s mentioned that all week....
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We have heinous WR play because the gaggle of WRs that Sashi drafted all fell flat. So why should anyone feel confident that the current front office can pick the right talent? They basically used the shotgun method and still didn't find an average WR by accident. This has been my issue this year and it will likely be a problem next year unless Sashi and Co. bring someone in who can evaluate talent. They may do a great job at bringing in lots of swings at the ball but they need to actually get some regular hits.
And they’ve hit on plenty of others. So scrap the whole FO because they missed out on 4 guys? Think man.
Did anyone talk about Hue's decision to decline that penalty on 3rd down, when it made it 4th and 1 for the Titans in our territory? If you take the penalty, you give the offense a chance to pick up the first, but you also move them back 15 yards. That would've made the FG MUCH longer, right? And who knows, if you get a sack on 3rd down, they might be out of FG range all together. The decision didn't ultimately hurt us too badly, as we still held them to 3 points, but I didn't get the decision, and I don't understand the logic there.
Nope. No one’s mentioned that all week....
And they’ve hit on plenty of others. So scrap the whole FO because they missed out on 4 guys? Think man.
In one draft. 4 picks flushed. DeValve and Kindred aren’t setting the world on fire either. The jury is still out on the 2017 draft.
I like the approach of putting together picks but they need to get someone in the FO who can ID the talent.
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That's a hilariously false analogy.
The Browns today would be a guy with a wife who can't leave the house because she weighs 500lbs, a third shift job at the local convenience store, and a kid who has graduated from meth to heroin.
My analogy's quite clear actually.
Our fans-our fans
Things are looking up-the team is getting better
hot wife, promotion at work, healthy kid, etc.-evidence of things getting better
the guy-our fans
ditch the family and move to Vegas-get rid of the regime
millionaires-winning a bunch of games
Yours is pretty poor, on the other hand. What exactly are the Browns trying to leave?
My analogy's quite clear actually.
Our fans-our fans
Things are looking up-the team is getting better
hot wife, promotion at work, healthy kid, etc.-evidence of things getting better
the guy-our fans
ditch the family and move to Vegas-get rid of the regime
millionaires-winning a bunch of games
Yours is pretty poor, on the other hand. What exactly are the Browns trying to leave?
Last year 0-7. This year 0-7. Statistically better probably. Not showing up in the win column though. Worst in the NFL in +\- turnover ratio, second in the league in penalties. Until that gets fixed, we're not going to win many games.
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My analogy's quite clear actually.
Our fans-our fans
Things are looking up-the team is getting better
hot wife, promotion at work, healthy kid, etc.-evidence of things getting better
the guy-our fans
ditch the family and move to Vegas-get rid of the regime
millionaires-winning a bunch of games
Yours is pretty poor, on the other hand. What exactly are the Browns trying to leave?
Last year 0-7. This year 0-7. Statistically better probably. Not showing up in the win column though. Worst in the NFL in +\- turnover ratio, second in the league in penalties. Until that gets fixed, we're not going to win many games.
Last year 0-7. This year 0-7. Statistically better probably. Not showing up in the win column though. Worst in the NFL in +\- turnover ratio, second in the league in penalties. Until that gets fixed, we're not going to win many games.
Good luck thinking it'll get fixed by just scrapping everyone
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And they’ve hit on plenty of others. So scrap the whole FO because they missed out on 4 guys? Think man.
In one draft. 4 picks flushed. DeValve and Kindred aren’t setting the world on fire either. The jury is still out on the 2017 draft.
I like the approach of putting together picks but they need to get someone in the FO who can ID the talent.
In one draft. 4 picks flushed. DeValve and Kindred aren’t setting the world on fire either. The jury is still out on the 2017 draft.
I like the approach of putting together picks but they need to get someone in the FO who can ID the talent.
Are you really this upset about a bunch of 4th+ rounders? You say "4 picks flushed." But we wouldn't have all those picks if not for the smarts of this FO. People want to have their cake and eat it too.
Devalve is producing more than his draft spot would indicate. Kindred's out of position but I'd say is pretty solid, especially, again, for a 4th rounder.
We've gotten solid production out of 5 of our first 6 picks from 2016. Kindred and Devalve are solid too. Drango hasn't played enough yet to make a proper evaluation, but we're about to find out. Then you factor in the Taylor and Collins trades. Bringing in Boddy-Calhoun. At a minimum, we got solid depth out of that draft, we just need another really high level player or two to emerge (in addition to Shon Coleman).
In 2017 Myles looks great. Njoku looks like what we drafted him to be. Ogunjobi's killing it, and the rest we have yet to really see.
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In one draft. 4 picks flushed. DeValve and Kindred aren’t setting the world on fire either. The jury is still out on the 2017 draft.
I like the approach of putting together picks but they need to get someone in the FO who can ID the talent.
Are you really this upset about a bunch of 4th+ rounders? You say "4 picks flushed." But we wouldn't have all those picks if not for the smarts of this FO. People want to have their cake and eat it too.
Devalve is producing more than his draft spot would indicate. Kindred's out of position but I'd say is pretty solid, especially, again, for a 4th rounder.
We've gotten solid production out of 5 of our first 6 picks from 2016. Kindred and Devalve are solid too. Drango hasn't played enough yet to make a proper evaluation, but we're about to find out. Then you factor in the Taylor and Collins trades. Bringing in Boddy-Calhoun. At a minimum, we got solid depth out of that draft, we just need another really high level player or two to emerge (in addition to Shon Coleman).
In 2017 Myles looks great. Njoku looks like what we drafted him to be. Ogunjobi's killing it, and the rest we have yet to really see.
Are you really this upset about a bunch of 4th+ rounders? You say "4 picks flushed." But we wouldn't have all those picks if not for the smarts of this FO. People want to have their cake and eat it too.
I already said I liked the approach of getting those picks. I do not like that they basically took 4 picks, even if they are middle round picks, and did nothing with them.
Like I said earlier, jury is still out on 2017. If Myles can stay on the field, great. He is very talented. If he is constantly injured, that could end up being a wasted pick. We shall see.
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Myles would have wanted to go with the team to London even if still on protocol.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/05/palaeontology-museums-uk
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True... but flying with a concussion is a no-no...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
My analogy's quite clear actually.
Our fans-our fans
Things are looking up-the team is getting better
hot wife, promotion at work, healthy kid, etc.-evidence of things getting better
the guy-our fans
ditch the family and move to Vegas-get rid of the regime
millionaires-winning a bunch of games
Yours is pretty poor, on the other hand. What exactly are the Browns trying to leave?
Last year 0-7. This year 0-7. Statistically better probably. Not showing up in the win column though. Worst in the NFL in +\- turnover ratio, second in the league in penalties. Until that gets fixed, we're not going to win many games.
Last year 0-7. This year 0-7. Statistically better probably. Not showing up in the win column though. Worst in the NFL in +\- turnover ratio, second in the league in penalties. Until that gets fixed, we're not going to win many games.
I'm not sure it even looks better statistically. Just remember the first 7 games last year and how close we game to winning several of those first 7. Compare that to this year, how many games have we been close to winning. I count 2. Tennessee and Pittsburgh week 1. The rest have been blowouts.
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Last year 0-7. This year 0-7. Statistically better probably. Not showing up in the win column though. Worst in the NFL in +\- turnover ratio, second in the league in penalties. Until that gets fixed, we're not going to win many games.
Good luck thinking it'll get fixed by just scrapping everyone
Good luck thinking it'll get fixed by just scrapping everyone
Where did I say that? Don't know if they'll keep Hue around though. His many shortcomings this year have been well documented. Go ahead and believe everything is just wonderful in Browns Land. 0-7 is what I see.
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Good luck thinking it'll get fixed by just scrapping everyone
Where did I say that? Don't know if they'll keep Hue around though. His many shortcomings this year have been well documented. Go ahead and believe everything is just wonderful in Browns Land. 0-7 is what I see.
Where did I say that? Don't know if they'll keep Hue around though. His many shortcomings this year have been well documented. Go ahead and believe everything is just wonderful in Browns Land. 0-7 is what I see.
'You are what your record says you are."- Parcells
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'You are what your record says you are."- Parcells
And every power ranking says with a 0-7 record, we're the worst team in the NFL. Our 0-7 is worse than the 49ers 0-7. Improvement would be moving up to #28 or so, and actually winning a game.
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'You are what your record says you are."- Parcells
And every power ranking says with a 0-7 record, we're the worst team in the NFL. Our 0-7 is worse than the 49ers 0-7. Improvement would be moving up to #28 or so, and actually winning a game.
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