If you’re freaked out by 1-22, you’re looking at the wrong thing
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Yeah, God forbid the entire roster isn't stacked yet.
That's what we did....
They're better this year. Not even close. Yes, the offense was better last year because it had much better QB play with McCown and Kessler.
Offense has regressed because of poor QB play and terrible coaching choices...Defense has dramatically improved though
hmm i wonder what the cause of that was???? lets sit and think....
oh yea we FIRED THE ENTIRE DEFENSIVE COACHING STAFF...Offense has regressed because of poor QB play and terrible coaching choices...Defense has dramatically improved though
hmm i wonder what the cause of that was???? lets sit and think....
oh yea we FIRED THE ENTIRE DEFENSIVE COACHING STAFF...They're improving...I wouldn't call it a dramatic improvement. The defense was still shredded by the Bengals, Colts and Texans. That's 3 games out of 7 that the defense has been non existant.
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from 31st to 9th in yardage top 5 run defense and 16t in passing defense 24th currently in ppg allowed, down 4 points from last year. we have more forced fumbles this year so far than last, more sacks, less missed tackles. last game withstanding less penalties on the defense than last year as well. Gregg Williams and staff have provided a very very significant upgrade to the defense
We had offensive 25 turnovers all of last year and this year we have 19 through 7 games. in the bengals game we had one of the worst offensive showings in terms of yardage with less than 160 yards before garbage time. the colts and texans both had 3 turnovers. If anyone is keeping track we usually get 2.7 turnovers a game. I'm not sure if its better or worse but only 2 of those have been fumbles.
if our offense was as good as last year we would be 2-5 or 3-5 at least...but unfortunately our purge of defensive coaches did not include Hue Jacksons offense... maybe we can get some good news at the bye...
I'm not worried about 1-22 as much as i am about the COMPLETE lack of improvement on the offense... it's regressed badly and to say otherwise is lying to yourself...and if changing coaches worked for the defense...(like i said it would all of last year and right after they hired ray horton) -
Tom, I wouldn't let him get on the plane either.... Our odds of winning will go way up.....
Just so you know, this is another one of those instances where I was right, you were wrong...we were both hoping I was wrong, and we both wind up on the damned short end of the stick again. I am hoping the game is televised. I have my shirt and plan to be up early with my pooch, having a few screw drivers, thinking about my Mom, and hoping that the players, in the face of adversity, step up to do something fantastic. I cannot believe that this team is playing to their best potential. I jsut cannot believe any group of players can be as bad as they appear.
This blows, to high heaven.
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Tom, I wouldn't let him get on the plane either.... Our odds of winning will go way up.....
Just so you know, this is another one of those instances where I was right, you were wrong...we were both hoping I was wrong, and we both wind up on the damned short end of the stick again. I am hoping the game is televised. I have my shirt and plan to be up early with my pooch, having a few screw drivers, thinking about my Mom, and hoping that the players, in the face of adversity, step up to do something fantastic. I cannot believe that this team is playing to their best potential. I jsut cannot believe any group of players can be as bad as they appear.
This blows, to high heaven.
Just so you know, this is another one of those instances where I was right, you were wrong...we were both hoping I was wrong, and we both wind up on the damned short end of the stick again. I am hoping the game is televised. I have my shirt and plan to be up early with my pooch, having a few screw drivers, thinking about my Mom, and hoping that the players, in the face of adversity, step up to do something fantastic. I cannot believe that this team is playing to their best potential. I jsut cannot believe any group of players can be as bad as they appear.
This blows, to high heaven.
May not have said it, but sorry about your Mom. We just lost one of our long time wine group friends, her funeral was earlier this week. Took a header down the basement stairs and never recovered.
Regarding the Browns, of course it blows. You were just a little faster on the uptake of Hue's shortcomings. They've become obvious now to most of us. No discipline, only second in the NFL in penalties. Doesn't play to his players strengths, and in-game decisions are atrocious. What pushed me over the edge was declining that 15 yard penalty. Even a pee-wee coach knows it's better to have 3rd and 16 from the 47 than 4th and one from the 32.
OK Ghoolie 1, Hoorta 0. Just remember I called Kizer a bust when we drafted him, for all intents and purposes he's the damn same player as RG III. I don't care if he's only 21, I don't think you can teach or coach accuracy to a guy when you've been tossing a football since you were 6 years old. Rag on Kosar all you want, but one thing Bernie had that IMHO Deshone never will is great deep ball accuracy. There's been multiple games I've been at where we had a wr break free, and all Kizer had to do was get the ball within 3 feet of him, and it was an easy TD. (Assuming of course our hands of stone WRs could actually catch the ball). Looks like the analytics guys blew it on Britt too. I'll bet they will pay him the $5 million they still owe him after the season just to make him go away.
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You were a bit slow Larry. He lost me with the timeout before anyone even knew the game had started a few games back. Who the hell does that?
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You were a bit slow Larry. He lost me with the timeout before anyone even knew the game had started a few games back. Who the hell does that?
You were a bit slow Larry. He lost me with the timeout before anyone even knew the game had started a few games back. Who the hell does that?
My memory is failing me Bill.
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Just so you know, this is another one of those instances where I was right, you were wrong...we were both hoping I was wrong, and we both wind up on the damned short end of the stick again. I am hoping the game is televised. I have my shirt and plan to be up early with my pooch, having a few screw drivers, thinking about my Mom, and hoping that the players, in the face of adversity, step up to do something fantastic. I cannot believe that this team is playing to their best potential. I jsut cannot believe any group of players can be as bad as they appear.
This blows, to high heaven.
May not have said it, but sorry about your Mom. We just lost one of our long time wine group friends, her funeral was earlier this week. Took a header down the basement stairs and never recovered.
Regarding the Browns, of course it blows. You were just a little faster on the uptake of Hue's shortcomings. They've become obvious now to most of us. No discipline, only second in the NFL in penalties. Doesn't play to his players strengths, and in-game decisions are atrocious. What pushed me over the edge was declining that 15 yard penalty. Even a pee-wee coach knows it's better to have 3rd and 16 from the 47 than 4th and one from the 32.
OK Ghoolie 1, Hoorta 0. Just remember I called Kizer a bust when we drafted him, for all intents and purposes he's the damn same player as RG III. I don't care if he's only 21, I don't think you can teach or coach accuracy to a guy when you've been tossing a football since you were 6 years old. Rag on Kosar all you want, but one thing Bernie had that IMHO Deshone never will is great deep ball accuracy. There's been multiple games I've been at where we had a wr break free, and all Kizer had to do was get the ball within 3 feet of him, and it was an easy TD. (Assuming of course our hands of stone WRs could actually catch the ball). Looks like the analytics guys blew it on Britt too. I'll bet they will pay him the $5 million they still owe him after the season just to make him go away.
May not have said it, but sorry about your Mom. We just lost one of our long time wine group friends, her funeral was earlier this week. Took a header down the basement stairs and never recovered.
Regarding the Browns, of course it blows. You were just a little faster on the uptake of Hue's shortcomings. They've become obvious now to most of us. No discipline, only second in the NFL in penalties. Doesn't play to his players strengths, and in-game decisions are atrocious. What pushed me over the edge was declining that 15 yard penalty. Even a pee-wee coach knows it's better to have 3rd and 16 from the 47 than 4th and one from the 32.
OK Ghoolie 1, Hoorta 0. Just remember I called Kizer a bust when we drafted him, for all intents and purposes he's the damn same player as RG III. I don't care if he's only 21, I don't think you can teach or coach accuracy to a guy when you've been tossing a football since you were 6 years old. Rag on Kosar all you want, but one thing Bernie had that IMHO Deshone never will is great deep ball accuracy. There's been multiple games I've been at where we had a wr break free, and all Kizer had to do was get the ball within 3 feet of him, and it was an easy TD. (Assuming of course our hands of stone WRs could actually catch the ball). Looks like the analytics guys blew it on Britt too. I'll bet they will pay him the $5 million they still owe him after the season just to make him go away.
When I saw Hue decline 3rd and 15 , I muttered to myself.. "This A$$ hole deserves to lose'.. And to think I liked the initial hire.. "Facepalms"
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You were a bit slow Larry. He lost me with the timeout before anyone even knew the game had started a few games back. Who the hell does that?
My memory is failing me Bill.
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If you can't tell by watching that this D is vastly improved over last year's, then you have no business analyzing football in any capacity... even on a fan message board...
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Maybe the FO can petition to have the scoreboard turned off each week.... apparently it's misleading when the other team has a higher number on it at the end of 21 out of 22 games.
They aren’t bothered about the score or record at the moment. They weren’t last year either.
That doesn’t seem to be sinking in most fans brains but you need to accept it or you’ll be banging your head against a wall every week they don’t win a game.
They aren’t bothered about the score or record at the moment. They weren’t last year either.
It really sucks and amounts to career suicide to have to coach under those circumstsnces.
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