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Hue Jackson: 'I totally have the support' of the Haslams despite 0-8

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

    I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

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    @dutch-oven said:

    The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

    I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

    As many 1 score losses as the Browns have had under Hue (8), I have to believe that Bill would've found a way to win at least 1/2 of those (4) plus he would've found a way to win at least a few others that we were blown out in. 

    So if everything was equal - same players handed to him by the FO, I would say we would be 9-15ish......... 

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      I've never seen the value of firing someone middle of the season unless they truly believe a HC could be on the roster. 

      @dutch-oven said:

      The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

      I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

      Hard to say, but Hue makes a lot of bone headed calls that have nothing to do with players. Calling a time out with 42 seconds left is a textbook example of that today. That simple mistake cost the Browns 3 points and half time momentum.

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      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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      @jrb12711 said:

      That simple mistake cost the Browns 3 points and half time momentum.

      Disagree..were still up 13-12 at half blame Crow laying ball down 1st play 3rd led to FG that put sota up then 15-13 

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        Crow fumbled, but we'll still probably give him a huge contract extension at the end of the year.

        also, Hue's job is safe, probably through next year but definitely through the season.

        even if he jumps in the lake.

        via rotoworld

        According to. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Browns coach Hue Jackson's job is safe "for now."

        Per Rapsheet, Jackson will maintain his job even if the Browns suffer another "ugly" loss Sunday against Minnesota. "Changes are expected to come at the end of the season in some form or fashion," he said. "But at this point, they are not expected to involve Hue Jackson." The Browns are trying to establish some continuity after years of endlessly cycling through coaches and players, but with just one win in 23 games as head coach, Jackson's leash is getting shorter by the minute.
         
         
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          Crow fumbled, but we'll still probably give him a huge contract extension at the end of the year.

          also, Hue's job is safe, probably through next year but definitely through the season.

          even if he jumps in the lake.

          via rotoworld

          According to. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Browns coach Hue Jackson's job is safe "for now."

          Per Rapsheet, Jackson will maintain his job even if the Browns suffer another "ugly" loss Sunday against Minnesota. "Changes are expected to come at the end of the season in some form or fashion," he said. "But at this point, they are not expected to involve Hue Jackson." The Browns are trying to establish some continuity after years of endlessly cycling through coaches and players, but with just one win in 23 games as head coach, Jackson's leash is getting shorter by the minute.
           
           
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          @stillmotion said:

          Crow fumbled, but we'll still probably give him a huge contract extension at the end of the year.

          also, Hue's job is safe, probably through next year but definitely through the season.

          even if he jumps in the lake.

          via rotoworld

          According to. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Browns coach Hue Jackson's job is safe "for now."

          Per Rapsheet, Jackson will maintain his job even if the Browns suffer another "ugly" loss Sunday against Minnesota. "Changes are expected to come at the end of the season in some form or fashion," he said. "But at this point, they are not expected to involve Hue Jackson." The Browns are trying to establish some continuity after years of endlessly cycling through coaches and players, but with just one win in 23 games as head coach, Jackson's leash is getting shorter by the minute.
           
           

          Good.

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            @stillmotion said:

            Crow fumbled, but we'll still probably give him a huge contract extension at the end of the year.

            also, Hue's job is safe, probably through next year but definitely through the season.

            even if he jumps in the lake.

            via rotoworld

            According to. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Browns coach Hue Jackson's job is safe "for now."

            Per Rapsheet, Jackson will maintain his job even if the Browns suffer another "ugly" loss Sunday against Minnesota. "Changes are expected to come at the end of the season in some form or fashion," he said. "But at this point, they are not expected to involve Hue Jackson." The Browns are trying to establish some continuity after years of endlessly cycling through coaches and players, but with just one win in 23 games as head coach, Jackson's leash is getting shorter by the minute.
             
             

            Good.

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            stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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            @wargograw said:

            Good.

            If he bitches out on his lake jump, and we go 0-16, we need to fire him furiously.

            Only a man of his word can coach the Cleveland Browns.

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              Crow fumbled, but we'll still probably give him a huge contract extension at the end of the year.

              also, Hue's job is safe, probably through next year but definitely through the season.

              even if he jumps in the lake.

              via rotoworld

              According to. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Browns coach Hue Jackson's job is safe "for now."

              Per Rapsheet, Jackson will maintain his job even if the Browns suffer another "ugly" loss Sunday against Minnesota. "Changes are expected to come at the end of the season in some form or fashion," he said. "But at this point, they are not expected to involve Hue Jackson." The Browns are trying to establish some continuity after years of endlessly cycling through coaches and players, but with just one win in 23 games as head coach, Jackson's leash is getting shorter by the minute.
               
               
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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @stillmotion said:

              Crow fumbled, but we'll still probably give him a huge contract extension at the end of the year.

              People who constantly belittle this front office as a group of bean-eating analytic dorks but say things like this and think the Browns will draft Barkley #1 or 2 overall really make my day.

              If this front office is made up of bean-eating dorks who pray to the alter of analytics, why would anyone then think either thing would ever happen?

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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                We have fired much better coaches with much better records.

                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                  LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                  What was bills record with the browns before they left?.  Thought there was a bad year in there.

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                    Look if things keep going the way they are going this year and we win 0, 1 or 2 games hue is going to be fired.  Thats not in dispute.  You cant go 2-30 or whatever and keep your job regardless of your talent level.  The vibe going into next season if we didnt make a change at head coach after another 0, 1 or 2 loss year would be crazy.....

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                      Look if things keep going the way they are going this year and we win 0, 1 or 2 games hue is going to be fired.  Thats not in dispute.  You cant go 2-30 or whatever and keep your job regardless of your talent level.  The vibe going into next season if we didnt make a change at head coach after another 0, 1 or 2 loss year would be crazy.....

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                      @tacosman said:

                      Look if things keep going the way they are going this year and we win 0, 1 or 2 games hue is going to be fired.  Thats not in dispute.  You cant go 2-30 or whatever and keep your job regardless of your talent level.  .

                      This roster is all on the coaching..got ya,thanks..good to cut a 5 year plan into 2 years..

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                        @tacosman said:

                        Look if things keep going the way they are going this year and we win 0, 1 or 2 games hue is going to be fired.  Thats not in dispute.  You cant go 2-30 or whatever and keep your job regardless of your talent level.  .

                        This roster is all on the coaching..got ya,thanks..good to cut a 5 year plan into 2 years..

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                        @gumby73 said:

                        This roster is all on the coaching..got ya,thanks..good to cut a 5 year plan into 2 years..

                        you are talking to yourself again and making up your own arguments.

                        there is no excuse to go 1-24(is that it? Ive lost count at this point?) with ANY ROSTER in today's nfl.  Thats not acceptable.  If Hue's record were 8-17 or some similar crappy record it would be different...then you could say well the roster sucks so of course we cant be good.  but 1-24 is so historically bad that you cant bring that shite back.

                        and what '5 year plan' are you talking about?  there is no 5 year plan....you dont get 5 freaking years to show something...even front offices dont get five whole years to show something...jesus.

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                          @gumby73 said:

                          This roster is all on the coaching..got ya,thanks..good to cut a 5 year plan into 2 years..

                          you are talking to yourself again and making up your own arguments.

                          there is no excuse to go 1-24(is that it? Ive lost count at this point?) with ANY ROSTER in today's nfl.  Thats not acceptable.  If Hue's record were 8-17 or some similar crappy record it would be different...then you could say well the roster sucks so of course we cant be good.  but 1-24 is so historically bad that you cant bring that shite back.

                          and what '5 year plan' are you talking about?  there is no 5 year plan....you dont get 5 freaking years to show something...even front offices dont get five whole years to show something...jesus.

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                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                          @tacosman said:

                          and what '5 year plan' are you talking about?  there is no 5 year plan....you dont get 5 freaking years to show something...even front offices dont get five whole years to show something...

                          the reboot that Hue saw coming in here was 3 years with drafting a QB even after SB depleted the roster.. SB blew that, not signing roster'd key FA's(+2 more,reboot went full blown rebuild)..Why do you think 9'ers were giving Shanny & Lynch 6 years? Haslem & all got Sashi Brown'd & Tomlin could not cheer-lead this roster to 3 wins either..we shall see if jimma really knew what he was getting into?

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                            @tacosman said:

                            and what '5 year plan' are you talking about?  there is no 5 year plan....you dont get 5 freaking years to show something...even front offices dont get five whole years to show something...

                            the reboot that Hue saw coming in here was 3 years with drafting a QB even after SB depleted the roster.. SB blew that, not signing roster'd key FA's(+2 more,reboot went full blown rebuild)..Why do you think 9'ers were giving Shanny & Lynch 6 years? Haslem & all got Sashi Brown'd & Tomlin could not cheer-lead this roster to 3 wins either..we shall see if jimma really knew what he was getting into?

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                            @gumby73 said:

                            the reboot that Hue saw coming in here was 3 years with drafting a QB even after SB depleted the roster.. SB blew that, not signing roster'd key FA's(+2 more)..Why do you think 9'ers were giving Shanny & Lynch 6 years?

                            lmao....shannahan is in year 1.  We'll know that they 'gave' him 6 years in year 6.  People sign contracts all the time for time periods that arent realized and there is buyout language and such.  I guarantee you that if Shanny is sucking bigtime in san fran he will not get anything close to 6 years and they will fire him after a few.  Thats the way it works in the nfl.

                            I dont know that there is any precedent for bringing an nfl coach back after losing 28+ games in 2 consecutive years?  I seriously doubt it.  

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                              Possible head coaches for 2018: McDaniels, Belichick, Jeff Fisher, 

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                                Possible head coaches for 2018: McDaniels, Belichick, Jeff Fisher, 

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                                @dawgs89 said:

                                Possible head coaches for 2018: McDaniels, Belichick, Jeff Fisher, 

                                I can understand listing McDaniels.

                                Does Bill have a coaching relative I'm unaware of?

                                Jeff Fisher might be one of the most overrated head coaches in NFL history.

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                                  @canton-dawg said:

                                  FYI, the lake reference in that last sentence, is Hue said that if we go 0-16 he would jump in Lake Erie.

                                  If he does go 0-16, and decides to jump in the lake...I would suggest that he should keep on swimming.

                                  jesus, what a horrible statement. he actually said he'd jump in the lake?

                                  as if 0-16 would be embarassing enough

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                                  @stillmotion said:

                                  jesus, what a horrible statement. he actually said he'd jump in the lake?

                                  as if 0-16 would be embarassing enough

                                  Live on WEWS... Hue jumps in Lake Erie, doesn't resurface....   

                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

                                  I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

                                  Better than 1-23 fer sure....  

                                  @gumby73 said:

                                  the reboot that Hue saw coming in here was 3 years with drafting a QB even after SB depleted the roster.. SB blew that, not signing roster'd key FA's(+2 more,reboot went full blown rebuild)..Why do you think 9'ers were giving Shanny & Lynch 6 years? Haslem & all got Sashi Brown'd & Tomlin could not cheer-lead this roster to 3 wins either..we shall see if jimma really knew what he was getting into?

                                  Fer sure, I'll bet the ranch Jimmuh doesn't like future draft picks over Carson Wentz....  We 100% can't miss on the next QB we pick. IMHO Kizer isn't the answer. 

                                  @boo-fagley said:

                                  Because the early bird gets the worm.

                                  Youre the first team with a HC vacancy and can speak to every HC between jobs. To do that with Huey still on the payroll is unprofessional and messy if HJack catches wind on his possible replacement on town. The next HC might think that the Browns will tray me the same way.

                                  Fire his a$$  tomorrow morning and start 2018 right now. Promote Williams as temp HC.

                                  I can see that... Hue is more a cheerleader than a coach. Hell, I'm all for letting a cheerleader call the plays.... 

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                                  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                                    The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

                                    I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

                                    I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

                                    Belichik is a different man than Hue is. Sashit and DePudDuster would be fetching his coffee. They would be drafting who he told them to draft. Just as it is in NE, the FO does their research but they don't feed him who they want. He calls those shots. Hue does not have that kind of chutzpah. Not a valid comparison. If Bill B was hired instead of Black Uncle Fester, we owuld have a lot of different players on this team, and of course we wouldn't be so lousy.

                                    The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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                                      @boo-fagley said:

                                      The Browns have good players.

                                      But they also have Hue and Kizer.

                                      The team's best player ( Albeit hofer) is a lineman. That's usually not a recipe for success.

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                                        Rams seemed to turn around fast once they got rid of Fisher.

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                                          Lol

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