Ideal Draft Pick (at this point)
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Those 21 carries for 44 yards were nice too. He would be a horrible pick.
I agree we shouldnt take a rb high, but barkley is a stud. I just wouldnt take any rb high. If you actually watched the tOSU game he was literally getting hit right when he took the handoff. Complete domination by psu o-line. Whenever he has a little space it's clear he is the best rb in college football by far. Scouts see that, which is he he will be a high pick(but again we shouldnt take him...not because hes not great but because we shouldnt take a rb)
I agree we shouldnt take a rb high, but barkley is a stud. I just wouldnt take any rb high. If you actually watched the tOSU game he was literally getting hit right when he took the handoff. Complete domination by psu o-line. Whenever he has a little space it's clear he is the best rb in college football by far. Scouts see that, which is he he will be a high pick(but again we shouldnt take him...not because hes not great but because we shouldnt take a rb)
I'll let you blame the OL for a game or two a year (like Fournette against Alabama). But you don't get to use that excuse against teams like Indiana, Pitt, etc.
I'm glad everyone is coming around to the truth here.
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I agree we shouldnt take a rb high, but barkley is a stud. I just wouldnt take any rb high. If you actually watched the tOSU game he was literally getting hit right when he took the handoff. Complete domination by psu o-line. Whenever he has a little space it's clear he is the best rb in college football by far. Scouts see that, which is he he will be a high pick(but again we shouldnt take him...not because hes not great but because we shouldnt take a rb)
I'll let you blame the OL for a game or two a year (like Fournette against Alabama). But you don't get to use that excuse against teams like Indiana, Pitt, etc.
I'm glad everyone is coming around to the truth here.
I'll let you blame the OL for a game or two a year (like Fournette against Alabama). But you don't get to use that excuse against teams like Indiana, Pitt, etc.
I'm glad everyone is coming around to the truth here.
ummm...they arent. He's still one of the top people on everyone's board for a reason. So enjoy continuing to talk to yourself and convince yourself of something here.
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The pick has to be a QB.
It really does.
Enough with being cute. Target your QB and get him. Then get him some WRs. The Browns cannot go into next season with the absolute nonsense they have collectively at the WR position.
The Browns have five picks in the first two rounds. There's a good chance they won't have to trade up to get a QB, so they should be able to use all of them. Get your QB, get a WR, get a LT to replace Thomas (now or eventually), etc...
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The pick has to be a QB.
It really does.
Enough with being cute. Target your QB and get him. Then get him some WRs. The Browns cannot go into next season with the absolute nonsense they have collectively at the WR position.
The Browns have five picks in the first two rounds. There's a good chance they won't have to trade up to get a QB, so they should be able to use all of them. Get your QB, get a WR, get a LT to replace Thomas (now or eventually), etc...
It really does.
Enough with being cute. Target your QB and get him. Then get him some WRs. The Browns cannot go into next season with the absolute nonsense they have collectively at the WR position.
The Browns have five picks in the first two rounds. There's a good chance they won't have to trade up to get a QB, so they should be able to use all of them. Get your QB, get a WR, get a LT to replace Thomas (now or eventually), etc...
It's really hard to trade up farther then the #1 pick that they're likely to have anyways. So they'll have the pick of the bunch.
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It really does.
Enough with being cute. Target your QB and get him. Then get him some WRs. The Browns cannot go into next season with the absolute nonsense they have collectively at the WR position.
The Browns have five picks in the first two rounds. There's a good chance they won't have to trade up to get a QB, so they should be able to use all of them. Get your QB, get a WR, get a LT to replace Thomas (now or eventually), etc...
It's really hard to trade up farther then the #1 pick that they're likely to have anyways. So they'll have the pick of the bunch.
It's really hard to trade up farther then the #1 pick that they're likely to have anyways. So they'll have the pick of the bunch.
Haha... I'm starting to wonder if San Fran will ever win a game too. Then it becomes a battle of strength of schedules
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Haha... I'm starting to wonder if San Fran will ever win a game too. Then it becomes a battle of strength of schedules
They've been close every week (except for being blown out by Dallas) whereas we've really only been close 2 out of 8 games. The rest have been blowouts.
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Haha... I'm starting to wonder if San Fran will ever win a game too. Then it becomes a battle of strength of schedules
They've been close every week (except for being blown out by Dallas) whereas we've really only been close 2 out of 8 games. The rest have been blowouts.
They've been close every week (except for being blown out by Dallas) whereas we've really only been close 2 out of 8 games. The rest have been blowouts.
The 49ers next two games are against the Cardinals (who they lost to earlier this season by 3 points) and then the 1-6 NY Giants, so there's hope.
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I'll let you blame the OL for a game or two a year (like Fournette against Alabama). But you don't get to use that excuse against teams like Indiana, Pitt, etc.
I'm glad everyone is coming around to the truth here.
ummm...they arent. He's still one of the top people on everyone's board for a reason. So enjoy continuing to talk to yourself and convince yourself of something here.
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Just like Trent Richardson was, right? (and Trent was double the back in college as Barkley)
Im confused on wtf point you are trying to make here? Yes, trent richardson was high on everyone's board too. So was Zeke Elliot. So was adrian peterson. So was bunches of players over the years, some of whom had good careers and some of whom didn't.....what's the point with respect to barkley?
Im in agreement with you that we shouldnt consider drafting barkley. I dont want to spend a high first round pick on a rb. Thats stupid.
But Barkley is clearly going to be the first back off the board because just looking at the film he is the best back in college football by far. He's strong and elusive and shifty and has big play ability. None of that has changed in terms of how people percieve him.
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Here are the leaders so far
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They've been close every week (except for being blown out by Dallas) whereas we've really only been close 2 out of 8 games. The rest have been blowouts.
The 49ers next two games are against the Cardinals (who they lost to earlier this season by 3 points) and then the 1-6 NY Giants, so there's hope.
The 49ers next two games are against the Cardinals (who they lost to earlier this season by 3 points) and then the 1-6 NY Giants, so there's hope.
In the 0-fer Bowl I still like the BROWNS chances......FWIW. As far as ideal pick now depends on your wish list:
1.Another shot at a franchise QB?
2. OL? New LT? Other?
3. Stud RB?
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Just like Trent Richardson was, right? (and Trent was double the back in college as Barkley)
Im confused on wtf point you are trying to make here? Yes, trent richardson was high on everyone's board too. So was Zeke Elliot. So was adrian peterson. So was bunches of players over the years, some of whom had good careers and some of whom didn't.....what's the point with respect to barkley?
Im in agreement with you that we shouldnt consider drafting barkley. I dont want to spend a high first round pick on a rb. Thats stupid.
But Barkley is clearly going to be the first back off the board because just looking at the film he is the best back in college football by far. He's strong and elusive and shifty and has big play ability. None of that has changed in terms of how people percieve him.
Im confused on wtf point you are trying to make here? Yes, trent richardson was high on everyone's board too. So was Zeke Elliot. So was adrian peterson. So was bunches of players over the years, some of whom had good careers and some of whom didn't.....what's the point with respect to barkley?
Im in agreement with you that we shouldnt consider drafting barkley. I dont want to spend a high first round pick on a rb. Thats stupid.
But Barkley is clearly going to be the first back off the board because just looking at the film he is the best back in college football by far. He's strong and elusive and shifty and has big play ability. None of that has changed in terms of how people percieve him.
The point is that where the draft gurus have a guy this far out means nothing.
You can’t explain away the guy’s rushing stats. You just can’t. They’re terrible for what this guy is being hyped as.
Do I think this guy can/will catch balls like a mofo in the NFL though? Absolutely.
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Sign Cousins, sign a tackle to eventually replace Joe Thomas (That is, if he can make it back..)
Draft Saquon Barkley. Kid is a scoring machne. 230lbs and runs a 4.3 40. We need a running game.
Draft a CB with our 2nd 1st pick, and go WR, FS, LB for the next 3 picks. We can find good talent in the 2nd at those positions
Hope to god that Josh Gordon and/or Corey Coleman can return in 2018 and play a full season..
I can promise you Barkley doesn't run a 4.3.
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If we take Jackson #1 overall then this franchise Shmucking deserves to pack it up and fold.
I can promise you Barkley doesn't run a 4.3.
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If we take Jackson #1 overall then this franchise Shmucking deserves to pack it up and fold.
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I can promise you Barkley doesn't run a 4.3.
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If we take Jackson #1 overall then this franchise Shmucking deserves to pack it up and fold.
Thanks for making my point, babygirl. Hand timed, by the school. I remember when Percy Harvin, Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps all 'ran' in the 4.2's while at Florida.
edit: I'll be happy to offer the same bet as I did last year re: Peppers running a 4.3.
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Thanks for making my point, babygirl. Hand timed, by the school. I remember when Percy Harvin, Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps all 'ran' in the 4.2's while at Florida.
edit: I'll be happy to offer the same bet as I did last year re: Peppers running a 4.3.
Thanks for making my point, babygirl. Hand timed, by the school. I remember when Percy Harvin, Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps all 'ran' in the 4.2's while at Florida.
edit: I'll be happy to offer the same bet as I did last year re: Peppers running a 4.3.
IDK man, I'm not saying you're wrong but that's a pretty high quality video. They fudge the numbers a bit downward, but that sure as Sheet looked no slower than a 4.4 type 40.
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Thanks for making my point, babygirl. Hand timed, by the school. I remember when Percy Harvin, Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps all 'ran' in the 4.2's while at Florida.
edit: I'll be happy to offer the same bet as I did last year re: Peppers running a 4.3.
Thanks for making my point, babygirl. Hand timed, by the school. I remember when Percy Harvin, Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps all 'ran' in the 4.2's while at Florida.
edit: I'll be happy to offer the same bet as I did last year re: Peppers running a 4.3.
Saquon will most likely run in the high 4.3s, more than likely 4.4, which is still fast.
We need him on our team. He scores touchdowns, has breakaway speed, can be used as a returner, etc.
As much as I like Crow, Duke, one of them will be out next season.
Crow will be gone next year, duke isn't an every down back,
Saquon would be a good fit for this team, take pressure off of Kizer(IF he is even our starter next year..)
Kirk Cousins is the guy we need to go after, cupcake. Not entirely sold on the QB class.. Maybe Darnold but he should stay another year
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Thanks for making my point, babygirl. Hand timed, by the school. I remember when Percy Harvin, Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps all 'ran' in the 4.2's while at Florida.
edit: I'll be happy to offer the same bet as I did last year re: Peppers running a 4.3.
Saquon will most likely run in the high 4.3s, more than likely 4.4, which is still fast.
We need him on our team. He scores touchdowns, has breakaway speed, can be used as a returner, etc.
As much as I like Crow, Duke, one of them will be out next season.
Crow will be gone next year, duke isn't an every down back,
Saquon would be a good fit for this team, take pressure off of Kizer(IF he is even our starter next year..)
Kirk Cousins is the guy we need to go after, cupcake. Not entirely sold on the QB class.. Maybe Darnold but he should stay another year
Saquon will most likely run in the high 4.3s, more than likely 4.4, which is still fast.
We need him on our team. He scores touchdowns, has breakaway speed, can be used as a returner, etc.
As much as I like Crow, Duke, one of them will be out next season.
Crow will be gone next year, duke isn't an every down back,
Saquon would be a good fit for this team, take pressure off of Kizer(IF he is even our starter next year..)
Kirk Cousins is the guy we need to go after. Not entirely sold on the QB class.. Maybe Darnold but he should stay another year
I don't see Kizer being the starter but who knows. We did start Charlie fucking Frye for more than one season. Cousins/Barkley would instantly improve the offense.
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I can promise you Barkley doesn't run a 4.3.
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If we take Jackson #1 overall then this franchise Shmucking deserves to pack it up and fold.
Honestly man, the idea of drafting a dude like Lamar used to scare the crap outta me. But it's time to at least start noticing that these freak athletes and not "prototype" QB's are becoming successful, and even franchise, level QBs. Tyrod Taylor, Watson, Prescott, Wilson, etc etc.
I'm not even saying I want the guy, but he's a damn good player.
Honestly man, the idea of drafting a dude like Lamar used to scare the crap outta me. But it's time to at least start noticing that these freak athletes and not "prototype" QB's are becoming successful, and even franchise, level QBs. Tyrod Taylor, Watson, Prescott, Wilson, etc etc.
I'm not even saying I want the guy, but he's a damn good player.
Hey....this FO has been all about "acquiring assets". Let draft 2 QBs. Rosen in round one, and Jackson in round 2.
What can it hurt? Put them in the mix with the guys we got now. Maybe one of them can actually play football.
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I don't think Rosen is franchise QB material
I don't think Rosen is franchise QB material
People around here....perhaps even me, said that about Wentz and Watson. So, I won't discount anyone.
(but Rosen did get hurt,no?)
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