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  • Sez.EJ S
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    S Sez.EJ wrote on last edited by
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    bla bla bla.. My boss doesn't love me either. Hester actually STARTS for Chicago at WR.... and with Cutler there.. look for this to be a breakout year. Cribbs cannot get the route running and catching down yet to be a consistant performer as a WR Otherwise we would not have spent 2 2nd rounders on receivers. . I love him.. but he has no leverage here. Shut up and play. Blow up on special teams again. Do what the team asks you and when the season is OVER.... get it OVER...then go talk to them. You cannot approach a brand new GM and coaching staff and expect love when you begin the relationship making demands... Mangini is not the ass here.. Cribbs is.

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      Cribbs new agent isn't making anything $ off of this contract... In order to make the big bucks he needs to strike a new deal...

      Now if Lerner promised Crbbs a new deal then thats a different story... Myself I think that fact is all bullcrap... Lerner has shown he's not afraid to spend the money, so that assumption is not in character with Lerner...

      The new guy just can't start tearing up contracts, if he does where will it end..

      As far as giving JJ and A Davis the boot, JJ is damaged material and may never play to his former level again and he refused to take a pay cut... As far as A Davis is concerned, I saw enough of him to know that he wasn't the answer to our needs.....

      peace

      T.Dawg

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      • medicineman medicinemanM
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        medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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        On a report i had read JJ said he was prepared to take a steap pay cut.

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        • The Italian DawgPound The Italian DawgPoundT
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          The Italian DawgPoundT The Italian DawgPound wrote on last edited by
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          "Football, of course, is a bottom-line business"

          To me it's all in this sentence. Win and people won't care how disgruntled your personnel is.

          There's only one thing Mankok needs to do: WIN!

          All the way from Torino to Cleveland: GO BROWNS!!!!!!!
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          • medicinemanM medicineman

            On a report i had read JJ said he was prepared to take a steap pay cut.

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            Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by YtownBrownsBacker
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            @medicineman said:

            On a report i had read JJ said he was prepared to take a steap pay cut.

            The man wasn't even running at full speed and still showed a slight limp when I saw him in Berea before he was cut. Not even close to 100% and may never be. This team can't afford to go into the season with potential long term injuries staring them in the face, like last year. The man had 7 surgeries on his knee and was a year from retirement, what did you expect him to contribute to the team.

            If he makes 40 or 50 catches for someone else this year I will gladly saw this staff blew it. but, until he shows he can get back on the field, I have to say the right decision was made.

            And please don't go there with Davis, he sucks. Can't drop into coverage, can't produce any pass rush, overruns plays and can't get off blocks. What he does is makes tackles 5 yards down field because his ass is getting pushed around by some guard or center.

            Hey, I loved JJ as a Brown and hoped he could make it back, but they are bringing in those Jets because we were 4-12 and they are better then what we had.

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              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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              No way in heck do we cut a young player with possibly 10 years in front of him for a proven guy who might give you 12 games this year.

              If Mangini was to give a roster slot to JJ, Mangini should be relieved of duty.

              That chapter is over. The book is finished.

              The End

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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              • Sez.EJ S
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                S Sez.EJ wrote on last edited by
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                Cribbs isn't making anything on this contract????? . Bull squat!!! Why did he sign it????? If he didn't like the contract he should have refused it then.. He signed, he took the money. Then he saw what Hester got and started crying about it. Hester is a starting wide reciever. Cribbs cannot get on the field as a solid #3. The money is very different for what they do.

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                  Cribbs isn't making anything on this contract????? . Bull squat!!! Why did he sign it????? If he didn't like the contract he should have refused it then.. He signed, he took the money. Then he saw what Hester got and started crying about it. Hester is a starting wide reciever. Cribbs cannot get on the field as a solid #3. The money is very different for what they do.

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                  Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                  @sez.ej said:

                  Cribbs isn't making anything on this contract????? . Bull squat!!! Why did he sign it????? If he didn't like the contract he should have refused it then.. He signed, he took the money. Then he saw what Hester got and started crying about it. Hester is a starting wide reciever. Cribbs cannot get on the field as a solid #3. The money is very different for what they do.

                  Exactly. BIG difference in time & # of plays per game if nothing else.

                  Mike

                  IN DORSEY I TRUST
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                  • sisky fringo sisky fringoS
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                    sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by
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                    Cribbs was stoked to get that new deal and extension. then he reads his press clippings and googles Devin Hester.

                    it's like this kid I know who had a great Christmas, then a couple days later he was over his neighbor's and saw under his tree.

                    jealousy is a bitch. so is greed for that matter.

                    I thought Josh Cribbs to be above this. thirty years ago they still played just as hard for next to nothing.

                    and for the record amenable implies something is likely to happen, no guarantees. it's just a tipped scale is all.

                    again, Josh was hyped he got that 6 mil extension. perception truly is everything.

                    and wasn't L. Coles one of the ones that came out and spoke in favor of Mangini after his firing? that article was bunk junk.

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                    • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

                      Cribbs was stoked to get that new deal and extension. then he reads his press clippings and googles Devin Hester.

                      it's like this kid I know who had a great Christmas, then a couple days later he was over his neighbor's and saw under his tree.

                      jealousy is a bitch. so is greed for that matter.

                      I thought Josh Cribbs to be above this. thirty years ago they still played just as hard for next to nothing.

                      and for the record amenable implies something is likely to happen, no guarantees. it's just a tipped scale is all.

                      again, Josh was hyped he got that 6 mil extension. perception truly is everything.

                      and wasn't L. Coles one of the ones that came out and spoke in favor of Mangini after his firing? that article was bunk junk.

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                      @sisky-fringo said:

                      and wasn't L. Coles one of the ones that came out and spoke in favor of Mangini after his firing? that article was bunk junk.

                      Here is the article that speaks to some sympathy for EM in NY

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                      • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

                        @sez.ej said:

                        Cribbs isn't making anything on this contract????? . Bull squat!!! Why did he sign it????? If he didn't like the contract he should have refused it then.. He signed, he took the money. Then he saw what Hester got and started crying about it. Hester is a starting wide reciever. Cribbs cannot get on the field as a solid #3. The money is very different for what they do.

                        Exactly. BIG difference in time & # of plays per game if nothing else.

                        Mike

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                        Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                        @canton-mike said:

                        Exactly. BIG difference in time & # of plays per game if nothing else.

                        Mike

                        What people also froget is that he didn't even finish his rookie contract and they rewarded him with a new one. Then, he gets $2 mil up front and his salary for two years. So, he has reaped over $3.3 millon for two years. That's over $1.6 million a year the last two years for a special teams player. If they do a new contract this year then he was very well paid that last two years and hadn't outplayed his contract.

                        Personally, I would tell him that he needed to play out the year and then they would add a substantial bonus in March and bonuses and incentives for the remaining years of the contract. I would not add any additional guaranteed money.

                        Sorry, but this is the second time in 4 years that he has asked for his contract to be redone.

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                        • sisky fringo sisky fringoS
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                          sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
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                          thanks Earl for digging it up, i remember reading that one. for some reason i thought Laveranues said a bit more. still, it speaks to him having more respect for him than the article depicts.

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