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  • The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

    I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

    @dutch-oven said:

    The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

    I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

    Belichik is a different man than Hue is. Sashit and DePudDuster would be fetching his coffee. They would be drafting who he told them to draft. Just as it is in NE, the FO does their research but they don't feed him who they want. He calls those shots. Hue does not have that kind of chutzpah. Not a valid comparison. If Bill B was hired instead of Black Uncle Fester, we owuld have a lot of different players on this team, and of course we wouldn't be so lousy.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    The Browns have good players.

    But they also have Hue and Kizer.

    The team's best player ( Albeit hofer) is a lineman. That's usually not a recipe for success.

  • Rams seemed to turn around fast once they got rid of Fisher.

  • Lol

  • I don't get it. What exactly is it that makes Hue a great coach? Clock management? QB selection? QB mentoring? Dee Haslam's bull? We should have done the continuity thing with a real football coach. This guy is worse than all the others we had all rolled into one.  He should jump in the lake like a e promised but take Stosh the Pud with him and don't come back. Analytics say...worst in Browns history and approaching worst in NFL history. Trust the process my butt!

  • I don't get it. What exactly is it that makes Hue a great coach? Clock management? QB selection? QB mentoring? Dee Haslam's bull? We should have done the continuity thing with a real football coach. This guy is worse than all the others we had all rolled into one.  He should jump in the lake like a e promised but take Stosh the Pud with him and don't come back. Analytics say...worst in Browns history and approaching worst in NFL history. Trust the process my butt!

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I don't get it. What exactly is it that makes Hue a great coach? Clock management? QB selection? QB mentoring? Dee Haslam's bull? We should have done the continuity thing with a real football coach. This guy is worse than all the others we had all rolled into one.  He should jump in the lake like a e promised but take Stosh the Pud with him and don't come back. Analytics say...worst in Browns history and approaching worst in NFL history. Trust the process my butt!

    Look he's a terrific salesman. You can't say he didn't move a lot of latex for Vandalay Industries, right?

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    I don't get it. What exactly is it that makes Hue a great coach? Clock management? QB selection? QB mentoring? Dee Haslam's bull? We should have done the continuity thing with a real football coach. This guy is worse than all the others we had all rolled into one.  He should jump in the lake like a e promised but take Stosh the Pud with him and don't come back. Analytics say...worst in Browns history and approaching worst in NFL history. Trust the process my butt!

    Look he's a terrific salesman. You can't say he didn't move a lot of latex for Vandalay Industries, right?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Look he's a terrific salesman. You can't say he didn't move a lot of latex for Vandalay Industries, right?

    I heard he's also a Marine Biologist.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Look he's a terrific salesman. You can't say he didn't move a lot of latex for Vandalay Industries, right?

    I heard he's also a Marine Biologist.  

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I heard he's also a Marine Biologist.  

    No that would be Submarine Biologist because he takes everything down with him when he's working his magic.😛

    EDIT: But of course he is mostly good at pretending to be an Architect (of great FB teams)😁

  • He's a freaking manziere and nothing more. I bet he even has trouble holding Dee's boobs

  • "The sea was angry that day my friends!"

    "Lake"

    "Whatever!"

  • Sunday’s life of a Browns’ fan: 9:30 am: Browns lose in London. 1 pm: Carson Wentz. 4 pm: Deshaun Watson. Nightcap: Steelers win.

  • Sunday’s life of a Browns’ fan: 9:30 am: Browns lose in London. 1 pm: Carson Wentz. 4 pm: Deshaun Watson. Nightcap: Steelers win.

    @darren15 said:

    Sunday’s life of a Browns’ fan: 9:30 am: Browns lose in London. 1 pm: Carson Wentz. 4 pm: Deshaun Watson. Nightcap: Steelers win.

    I take it that Adam doesn't trust the process?

  • @darren15 said:

    Sunday’s life of a Browns’ fan: 9:30 am: Browns lose in London. 1 pm: Carson Wentz. 4 pm: Deshaun Watson. Nightcap: Steelers win.

    I take it that Adam doesn't trust the process?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I take it that Adam doesn't trust the process?

    Trusts it less than we do ")

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    I take it that Adam doesn't trust the process?

    Trusts it less than we do ")

    @darren15 said:

    Trusts it less than we do ")

    I never did like non football people calling the shots. Kinda like having a charter boat captain pilot a 747. 

     YOU DON'T!!!!!?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The Browns are 1-23 under Hue.

    I'm curious what everyone thinks that record would be if Belichick was the head coach, with everything the same.

    Belichik is a different man than Hue is. Sashit and DePudDuster would be fetching his coffee. They would be drafting who he told them to draft. Just as it is in NE, the FO does their research but they don't feed him who they want. He calls those shots. Hue does not have that kind of chutzpah. Not a valid comparison. If Bill B was hired instead of Black Uncle Fester, we owuld have a lot of different players on this team, and of course we wouldn't be so lousy.

    @ghoolie said:

    Belichik is a different man than Hue is. Sashit and DePudDuster would be fetching his coffee. They would be drafting who he told them to draft. Just as it is in NE, the FO does their research but they don't feed him who they want. He calls those shots. Hue does not have that kind of chutzpah. Not a valid comparison. If Bill B was hired instead of Black Uncle Fester, we owuld have a lot of different players on this team, and of course we wouldn't be so lousy.

    Well, the plan may very well be to bring in someone at the end of the year. who will have that kind of chutzpah.

  • @darren15 said:

    Trusts it less than we do ")

    I never did like non football people calling the shots. Kinda like having a charter boat captain pilot a 747. 

     YOU DON'T!!!!!?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I never did like non football people calling the shots

    What shots, exactly?

    Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

    Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

    Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

    Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

    There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

    [For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

    First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

    Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

    Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

    Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

    Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

    Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

    So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    I never did like non football people calling the shots

    What shots, exactly?

    Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

    Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

    Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

    Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

    There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

    [For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

    First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

    Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

    Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

    Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

    Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

    Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

    So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

    @unsympathetic said:

    What shots, exactly?

    Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

    Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

    Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

    Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

    There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

    [For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

    First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

    Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

    Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

    Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

    Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

    Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

    So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

    Here's the only stat that matters. . .1-23.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    I never did like non football people calling the shots

    What shots, exactly?

    Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

    Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

    Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

    Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

    There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

    [For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

    First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

    Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

    Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

    Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

    Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

    Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

    So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

    @unsympathetic said:

    What shots, exactly?

    Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

    Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

    Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

    Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

    There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

    [For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

    First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

    Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

    Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

    Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

    Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

    Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

    So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

    Where you been man? We done passed on every blue chip player the past two drafts for beans. But we were told that they're magic. Yes, football people making football decisions and get this stench of a team out a my back yard. It's shameful what the Haslam's are doing to a football rich area.

  • The Haslams have brought nothing but embarrassment to this once proud franchise...

  • The Haslams have brought nothing but embarrassment to this once proud franchise...

    @nickers said:

    The Haslams have brought nothing but embarrassment to this once proud franchise...

    So it would seem.  As an owner JH et al have just 2 jobs:  write the checks (after depositing the revenue checks)....and hire the right person to run your organization.   You can't fault JH for the former.....but, with the latter.....goodness.   How many Top Men has JH had here so far since buying the team?

    From what I can tell, here is the history of it:

    JH bought the team in August 2012.

    He brought on Joe Banner that same month as Club President (Aug. 2012)

    He allowed Holmgren and Heckert to stay on until the end of that year....when they were aufed.

    Then Banner brought in Mike Lombardi in Feb. 2013.

    Those two lasted only another year.   They were aufed in January 2014.

    Where they brought in Ray Farmer as GM, and Alex Scheiner as club President...and they brought in Pettine.

    In January 2016  both Farmer and Pettine were out. Somewhere in there Scheiner was also out.

    Sachi Brown was in as Executive VP of Football Operations, Paul DePodesta as "chief strategy officer", and Andrew Berry as VP of Personell.