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Browns Coaching Staff to be fired, FO Likely Retained with addition of GM

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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Oh it gets even better.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/cleveland-misses-trade-deadline-for-aj-mccarron-in-browns-fashion/

    Hue's daughter even complained about the FO on Twitter. That's bad. But worse is that the deal breaker with the Bungles is that they refused to take hue back.  (Pip)

  • The only prob I have with any of that is not firing Hue today. I'd like to see how Williams would respond to the situation.

    @browns_fucking_rule said:

    The only prob I have with any of that is not firing Hue today. I'd like to see how Williams would respond to the situation.

    Williams has already stated he would not accept interim Hc role. 

  • @cainedesoulis said:

    Benjamin Allbright on the radio, He said he'll post the emails after he has removed the names
     

    Why would he remove the names?  There are only 2 names it can be:  Sashi Brown or Jimmy Haslam.....and Sashi may be out the door before Hue is. 

    JH may bring in somebody who he will give the task of evaluating Hue as to whether or not he should stay or go.

    @the-gipper said:

    Why would he remove the names?  There are only 2 names it can be:  Sashi Brown or Jimmy Haslam.....and Sashi may be out the door before Hue is. 

    JH may bring in somebody who he will give the task of evaluating Hue as to whether or not he should stay or go.

    ^^^^ this. I'm starting to feel the major mess isn't all on Hue. I agree with BB Sashi is at the very least going to be demoted- if not outright fired.You don't let a lawyer "build Consensus" if he doesn't have a clue what he's doing. IIRC he has 1\3 vote, and final say. Sahshi better have great hypnotic powers over Jimmy to save his job- because "The Process" sure as hell is a downright flop this year. 

  • They better keep williams or im out. If myles garrett and emmanuel igbah are standing up at the line next year im dobe with the browns ergo done with NFL football cause give enough shits about other teams to care if the browns ate out of the picture.

    for all of u that want this enjoy a couple more 1-2 win seasons than kiss the browns goodbye again. And the next time they leave we won't see football here again for a generation. Wont be like last time. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why would he remove the names?  There are only 2 names it can be:  Sashi Brown or Jimmy Haslam.....and Sashi may be out the door before Hue is. 

    JH may bring in somebody who he will give the task of evaluating Hue as to whether or not he should stay or go.

    ^^^^ this. I'm starting to feel the major mess isn't all on Hue. I agree with BB Sashi is at the very least going to be demoted- if not outright fired.You don't let a lawyer "build Consensus" if he doesn't have a clue what he's doing. IIRC he has 1\3 vote, and final say. Sahshi better have great hypnotic powers over Jimmy to save his job- because "The Process" sure as hell is a downright flop this year. 

    @hoorta said:

    ^^^^ this. I'm starting to feel the major mess isn't all on Hue. I agree with BB Sashi is at the very least going to be demoted- if not outright fired.You don't let a lawyer "build Consensus" if he doesn't have a clue what he's doing. IIRC he has 1\3 vote, and final say. Sahshi better have great hypnotic powers over Jimmy to save his job- because "The Process" sure as hell is a downright flop this year. 

    we've been told to shutup and wait, but you have to see some red flags. Sashi was a questionable hire from the start. Maybe he's trying to make genius picks too hard, he's made a lot of trades, but he hasn't really gave us a clue when he predicts we'd be competitive or what his strategy is. If we don't get undervaled talent like in moneyball, just average or below average players, we're Shmucked, and we'll end up barely winning a game or two a year. It looks like we might be there now.

  • @hoorta said:

    ^^^^ this. I'm starting to feel the major mess isn't all on Hue. I agree with BB Sashi is at the very least going to be demoted- if not outright fired.You don't let a lawyer "build Consensus" if he doesn't have a clue what he's doing. IIRC he has 1\3 vote, and final say. Sahshi better have great hypnotic powers over Jimmy to save his job- because "The Process" sure as hell is a downright flop this year. 

    we've been told to shutup and wait, but you have to see some red flags. Sashi was a questionable hire from the start. Maybe he's trying to make genius picks too hard, he's made a lot of trades, but he hasn't really gave us a clue when he predicts we'd be competitive or what his strategy is. If we don't get undervaled talent like in moneyball, just average or below average players, we're Shmucked, and we'll end up barely winning a game or two a year. It looks like we might be there now.

    @stillmotion said:

    we've been told to shutup and wait, but you have to see some red flags. Sashi was a questionable hire from the start. Maybe he's trying to make genius picks too hard, he's made a lot of trades, but he hasn't really gave us a clue when he predicts we'd be competitive or what his strategy is. If we don't get undervaled talent like in moneyball, just average or below average players, we're Shmucked, and we'll end up barely winning a game or two a year. It looks like we might be there now.

    And the most damning for Stosh is the fact that he's made all these moves and the Browns still don't even have a star player. He's worse than lousy.....pathetic

  • @stillmotion said:

    we've been told to shutup and wait, but you have to see some red flags. Sashi was a questionable hire from the start. Maybe he's trying to make genius picks too hard, he's made a lot of trades, but he hasn't really gave us a clue when he predicts we'd be competitive or what his strategy is. If we don't get undervaled talent like in moneyball, just average or below average players, we're Shmucked, and we'll end up barely winning a game or two a year. It looks like we might be there now.

    And the most damning for Stosh is the fact that he's made all these moves and the Browns still don't even have a star player. He's worse than lousy.....pathetic

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    And the most damning for Stosh is the fact that he's made all these moves and the Browns still don't even have a star player. He's worse than lousy.....pathetic

    Thars why I want Barklay with the number 1 pick.....people are saying best back to come out in years and look what Fournette has done at the Jags ..... we have a star player waiting to be picked at one but we will trade down for another Justin Gilbert

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    And the most damning for Stosh is the fact that he's made all these moves and the Browns still don't even have a star player. He's worse than lousy.....pathetic

    Thars why I want Barklay with the number 1 pick.....people are saying best back to come out in years and look what Fournette has done at the Jags ..... we have a star player waiting to be picked at one but we will trade down for another Justin Gilbert

    @darren15 said:

    Thars why I want Barklay with the number 1 pick.....people are saying best back to come out in years and look what Fournette has done at the Jags ..... we have a star player waiting to be picked at one but we will trade down for another Justin Gilbert

    Or manziel, or weeden, or TR, or or, or, or, or... My 7 year old granddaughter daughter could make these picks.

  • @darren15 said:

    Thars why I want Barklay with the number 1 pick.....people are saying best back to come out in years and look what Fournette has done at the Jags ..... we have a star player waiting to be picked at one but we will trade down for another Justin Gilbert

    Or manziel, or weeden, or TR, or or, or, or, or... My 7 year old granddaughter daughter could make these picks.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Or manziel, or weeden, or TR, or or, or, or, or... My 7 year old granddaughter daughter could make these picks.

    Then maybe Haslam needs to hire her as GM or we will get another dud

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Or manziel, or weeden, or TR, or or, or, or, or... My 7 year old granddaughter daughter could make these picks.

    Then maybe Haslam needs to hire her as GM or we will get another dud

    @darren15 said:

    Then maybe Haslam needs to hire her as GM or we will get another dud

    No, he needs to hire someone that actually knows the game. Using non football guys to make draft picks is just brain dead....hi Jimmy, yep you.

  • @darren15 said:

    Then maybe Haslam needs to hire her as GM or we will get another dud

    No, he needs to hire someone that actually knows the game. Using non football guys to make draft picks is just brain dead....hi Jimmy, yep you.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    No, he needs to hire someone that actually knows the game. Using non football guys to make draft picks is just brain dead....hi Jimmy, yep you.

    I agree we need a football guy but fear another Holmgren

  • David Gettlman build the Panthers in 3 seasons thru the draft. He knows what talent evaluates at the next level..Not willing to overpay Veterans..Gettlman would only accept SB's position..He's not a consensus guy..he's a football guy with proven resume in Philly & Carolina..It's Your call Haslem?   

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    No, he needs to hire someone that actually knows the game. Using non football guys to make draft picks is just brain dead....hi Jimmy, yep you.

    I agree we need a football guy but fear another Holmgren

    @darren15 said:

    I agree we need a football guy but fear another Holmgren

    I hear ya. But at least his regime won a few. And even a couple of players. 

  • Great.  Maybe he'll redraft Tebow in round 1.

    McDaniels is an OC....and should not be promoted beyond that....ever again.

    @orion said:

    Great.  Maybe he'll redraft Tebow in round 1.

    McDaniels is an OC....and should not be promoted beyond that....ever again.

    Homeless guy said for a bottle of Mad Dog, he will pick our QB next year.

  • @orion said:

    Great.  Maybe he'll redraft Tebow in round 1.

    McDaniels is an OC....and should not be promoted beyond that....ever again.

    Homeless guy said for a bottle of Mad Dog, he will pick our QB next year.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Homeless guy said for a bottle of Mad Dog, he will pick our QB next year.

    Why not? The last one he picked sucked and still did better than the three we have combined

  • The Emails have been posted by allbright, i dont know how to link a twitter post

  • Josh McDaniels is a terrible coach an nearly ruined the Broncos. Elway had to clean up his mess.

  • If jimmy lets mcdaniels come in and hire his own DC just take the team somewhere else. Cause we know the new DC will be gone again in 1-2 years i mean enough ofvthis fuk train and enough of u awful browns fans that so quickly forget how awful it feels to be figuratively standing on a street cirner begging for loose change to come coach in clev

    if a guy gets a defense to go from 31st to 9th overall, and still gets let go after obe year.......what are we doing? This isnt a football organization

  • This all just shows how important winning is. Not capital W Winning, as in making the playoffs every year ... the ultimate goal, but winning as in grabbing a game here and there while you are rebuilding.

    Already people are talking about losing out and rooting for the 49ers ... and I want to punch them.

    We need to win football games.

    The coaches are pissed that the FO leaves at 5 PM and is not getting them players while they work their asses off. The veteran players are becoming numb to the losing and there is no "edge" to pass on to the younger players. The young players feel like they got drafted by a joke and are already looking for a way to get out. Jimmy will "Have to do something" and either the FO or the coaching staff will get fired ... or both.

    They made a grave mistake in the offseason in my opinion of not trading for someone like Garrapollo that could take the reigns and win us a few games. They made the mistake of keeping us too thin throughout the roster.

    I GET totally dismantling the team last year and the resulting 1-15. But you HAVE to go at least 4-12 or 5-11 the next year so that EVERYONE (FO, Coaches, Players ... and even fans) stays on board with the process.

    Football is different than the NBA and MLB. You can't tank. The Sixers tanked to get talent, the Astros tanked to get talent .. and results are happening. But in the NFL, these guys are giving up their bodies for you every Sunday. They are risking their careers to play, their livelihoods, their family's livelihood. If they feel you're not trying to win the lockerroom becomes poisoned, the young guys get poisoned and you are forever rebuilding. The coaching staff becomes embittered, the front office becomes isolated and everyone is making plans for their next move instead of giving all for the team.

    Last week we sent a struggling rookie QB out there and told him to throw to Ricardo Luis, Rashard Higgins,  Sammie Coates, Bryce Treggs, Seth Devalve and rookie David Njoku ... and told him to win against the Vikings defense.

    He can't win with those guys. We can't win with those guys. The coaches can't win with those guys, and the front office had plenty of money to go out and get us some guys ... so that we can win some games, build some momentum, have some hope, give the rookies and second year players some confidence and a taste of winning ... and they didn't do it.

    Zombo

    --Second round picks are not gold ... winning is gold ... and winning begets Winning.

  • lol McDaniels is never coming to Cleveland. Bank on it