Josh Gordon
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"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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No thanks:
how can anybody be proud of him about that?
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No thanks:
how can anybody be proud of him about that?
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No thanks:
Can you imagine how he could play when he doesn't? Look DHB- Gordon is truly on his last strike. Past is past. He can either rise to a Jerry Rice level, or fall to a level of smoking blunts with Justin Blackmon in a couple of games- it's up to him.
The guy is an immense talent with a substance abuse problem. Chris Carter beat it, legions of other didn't. He comes back to 90% of what he was- he's the best WR in the league.
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As I'm sure we've all heard, Josh recently informed GQ Magazine that he basically played every game high or intoxicated with booze or whatever else. He's done this since college and possibly high school. You guys ever hear of artists who couldn't be creative without drugs or alcohol, or musicians that needed some kind of fix to create music? I worry that Josh "got into football mode" under the influence of SOMETHING, and that doing it sober could be difficult for him. He probably used chemicals to take away anxiety, nervousness, and maybe pain. How can he handle all of these things WITHOUT drugs? What is his plan? CAN he function on and off the field without these things? That's my biggest concern. Josh likely wasn't just using drugs because they felt good, I'm guessing it was much more than that. My other worry is how Josh will live once the season is OVER. He'll have a ton of free time, and that's the biggest concern for every recovering addict. That's when the mind starts to really turn against you. We call it, "Stinkin' Thinkin'", and it's powerful. My guess is that he'll continue to live with his "business manager", and that way he can essentially have an adult supervisor. That would be my plan.
The prospect of having Josh Gordon and Corey Coleman being our starting WR's rather than Bryce Dreggs and Ricardo Louis is tantalizing, but as I've stated before, Kizer couldn't get the ball to the OTHER guys when THEY were open in the red zone, so what's going to be different now? I'm guessing nothing much. Will Kizer's numbers improve SOMEWHAT with these two? Assuming they both play the final 5 games, then yes...I believe Kizer's numbers will improve A LITTLE, but I don't think it'll be significant. I still maintain Kizer isn't accurate enough to consistently score without turning it over, and he still misses way too many people when we have the chance the score.
Edit: Deshone Kizer has 3 TD passes and 11 INT's. Jesus....man. And with his confidence shaken, and Hue trying to do what he can by implementing the short, safe passing offense, I really don't see how Kizer CAN throw touchdown passes. Not only is he not throwing touchdowns, his passes to the end zone aren't even CLOSE in most cases. God help us.
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As I'm sure we've all heard, Josh recently informed GQ Magazine that he basically played every game high or intoxicated with booze or whatever else. He's done this since college and possibly high school. You guys ever hear of artists who couldn't be creative without drugs or alcohol, or musicians that needed some kind of fix to create music? I worry that Josh "got into football mode" under the influence of SOMETHING, and that doing it sober could be difficult for him. He probably used chemicals to take away anxiety, nervousness, and maybe pain. How can he handle all of these things WITHOUT drugs? What is his plan? CAN he function on and off the field without these things? That's my biggest concern. Josh likely wasn't just using drugs because they felt good, I'm guessing it was much more than that. My other worry is how Josh will live once the season is OVER. He'll have a ton of free time, and that's the biggest concern for every recovering addict. That's when the mind starts to really turn against you. We call it, "Stinkin' Thinkin'", and it's powerful. My guess is that he'll continue to live with his "business manager", and that way he can essentially have an adult supervisor. That would be my plan.
The prospect of having Josh Gordon and Corey Coleman being our starting WR's rather than Bryce Dreggs and Ricardo Louis is tantalizing, but as I've stated before, Kizer couldn't get the ball to the OTHER guys when THEY were open in the red zone, so what's going to be different now? I'm guessing nothing much. Will Kizer's numbers improve SOMEWHAT with these two? Assuming they both play the final 5 games, then yes...I believe Kizer's numbers will improve A LITTLE, but I don't think it'll be significant. I still maintain Kizer isn't accurate enough to consistently score without turning it over, and he still misses way too many people when we have the chance the score.
Edit: Deshone Kizer has 3 TD passes and 11 INT's. Jesus....man. And with his confidence shaken, and Hue trying to do what he can by implementing the short, safe passing offense, I really don't see how Kizer CAN throw touchdown passes. Not only is he not throwing touchdowns, his passes to the end zone aren't even CLOSE in most cases. God help us.
As I'm sure we've all heard, Josh recently informed GQ Magazine that he basically played every game high or intoxicated with booze or whatever else. He's done this since college and possibly high school. You guys ever hear of artists who couldn't be creative without drugs or alcohol, or musicians that needed some kind of fix to create music? I worry that Josh "got into football mode" under the influence of SOMETHING, and that doing it sober could be difficult for him. He probably used chemicals to take away anxiety, nervousness, and maybe pain. How can he handle all of these things WITHOUT drugs? What is his plan? CAN he function on and off the field without these things? That's my biggest concern. Josh likely wasn't just using drugs because they felt good, I'm guessing it was much more than that. My other worry is how Josh will live once the season is OVER. He'll have a ton of free time, and that's the biggest concern for every recovering addict. That's when the mind starts to really turn against you. We call it, "Stinkin' Thinkin'", and it's powerful. My guess is that he'll continue to live with his "business manager", and that way he can essentially have an adult supervisor. That would be my plan.
The prospect of having Josh Gordon and Corey Coleman being our starting WR's rather than Bryce Dreggs and Ricardo Louis is tantalizing, but as I've stated before, Kizer couldn't get the ball to the OTHER guys when THEY were open in the red zone, so what's going to be different now? I'm guessing nothing much. Will Kizer's numbers improve SOMEWHAT with these two? Assuming they both play the final 5 games, then yes...I believe Kizer's numbers will improve A LITTLE, but I don't think it'll be significant. I still maintain Kizer isn't accurate enough to consistently score without turning it over, and he still misses way too many people when we have the chance the score.
Edit: Deshone Kizer has 3 TD passes and 11 INT's. Jesus....man. And with his confidence shaken, and Hue trying to do what he can by implementing the short, safe passing offense, I really don't see how Kizer CAN throw touchdown passes. Not only is he not throwing touchdowns, his passes to the end zone aren't even CLOSE in most cases. God help us.
Kizer threw a really good TD pass to Coleman in the red zone before he was injured so he's shown he can do that. Their presence (if Gordon suits up) in the red zone will open things up for everyone.
One point you omitted from the article was the deplorable behavior of Cleveland fans to him and his family.
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Just wait until Kenny Britt wants to go party, his first invite will be Josh Gordon.
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One thing that concerns me is the speculation that Josh is trying to get out of Cleveland by saying things like using drugs before every game. In worried we'll just cut him because of the backlash.
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You guys are high.
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Josh Gordon! I so proud of this guy! When many thought that he was just another Blackmon he proves he is much more! Welcome back JG!
Kevin Hogan is going to thrive with his high and away passes to Josh! Let's GOOO!
Josh Gordon! I so proud of this guy! When many thought that he was just another Blackmon he proves he is much more! Welcome back JG!
Kevin Hogan is going to thrive with his high and away passes to Josh! Let's GOOO!
You and me both. God Bless him. Say whatever you will about his dope use, but the guy got a raw deal and he hung in there. Kizer with Gordon AND Coleman? BIIIIIG Difference. I like Gordon.....always have. I hope the stadium explodes when he comes in for his first play. If anyone deserves a good turn, it is him.
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Wasn't Chris Carter a Shmuck up also and turned things around?
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Serious question. No snark, no assholery, just a simple, honest question.
What, in Josh Gordon's history since his first days at Baylor, makes anyone here think that he will get through the coming offseason without some sort of "incident"?
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Serious question. No snark, no assholery, just a simple, honest question.
What, in Josh Gordon's history since his first days at Baylor, makes anyone here think that he will get through the coming offseason without some sort of "incident"?
Serious question. No snark, no assholery, just a simple, honest question.
What, in Josh Gordon's history since his first days at Baylor, makes anyone here think that he will get through the coming offseason without some sort of "incident"?
Nothing.
You can't predict people's actions, and even less and addict's ones.
In these type of stories you just can hope the best for the man, there's no solid proof, as the battle has to be fought in his mind, and nobody can't know what's inside there.
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Serious question. No snark, no assholery, just a simple, honest question.
What, in Josh Gordon's history since his first days at Baylor, makes anyone here think that he will get through the coming offseason without some sort of "incident"?
Nothing.
You can't predict people's actions, and even less and addict's ones.
In these type of stories you just can hope the best for the man, there's no solid proof, as the battle has to be fought in his mind, and nobody can't know what's inside there.
Nothing.
You can't predict people's actions, and even less and addict's ones.
In these type of stories you just can hope the best for the man, there's no solid proof, as the battle has to be fought in his mind, and nobody can't know what's inside there.
You nailed it. Just like I said in my lengthy post, the NFL isn't really set up for addicts. Once they get where Josh is, ONE mistake is all it takes to lose EVERYTHING. Can you imagine that stress? It must be completely overwhelming. To me, it SOUNDS like Josh is finally getting it, but in my experience, an addict generally slips up a time or two more AFTER they hit the rock bottom and really want to get better. Let's hope Josh can make good decisions. Apparently he looks like a god right now, and his body fat is a ridiculous 9% (it was almost double that last year). Cmon Josh...we really need you.
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Serious question. No snark, no assholery, just a simple, honest question.
What, in Josh Gordon's history since his first days at Baylor, makes anyone here think that he will get through the coming offseason without some sort of "incident"?
Serious question. No snark, no assholery, just a simple, honest question.
What, in Josh Gordon's history since his first days at Baylor, makes anyone here think that he will get through the coming offseason without some sort of "incident"?
Serious question. No snark, no assholery...just a simple honest question: What difference does it make? We have not had him for like 2.5 years. So...has anyone really been counting on his return? (besides PoG?) If we get something out of him...we get something. If we get nothing...well...that is the same we have gotten for the past 2.5 years....so we will really be no worse off.
Lets put it this way: I do NOT think that by Gordon coming back...even if he plays those last 5 games fairly well.....that this team should still not consider taking a top notch WR in the draft next year.
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