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  • @tiamat63 said:

    Oh, no.  You want 'X' player.   If you're the one offering up suggestions, I'm well and right to say hell no without offering my own.  Because one of us realizes how early it is in the process and that this might be a pretty weak draft. 

    Also, comparing players is called a benchmark and usually a damn good idea.  Helps give a feel for seeing how certain playing styles can mesh and translate to the NFL.

    Just FYI, my logic is sound. Yours is horseshit.  "He's a leader rarrrarrrr"...    you've got to be kidding. 

    He's front in the race for the heisman, is demolishing everyone, and looking like an NFL ready quarterback. Your opinion is so weak you don't even have anyone you like in the draft or an argument on why we should draft them. Yeah, it's so early in the process we should give Sashi and Hue another ten years to pick a quarterback.

    @stillmotion said:

    He's front in the race for the heisman, is demolishing everyone, and looking like an NFL ready quarterback. Your opinion is so weak you don't even have anyone you like in the draft or an argument on why we should draft them. Yeah, it's so early in the process we should give Sashi and Hue another ten years to pick a quarterback.

    Still haven't seen you post a single trait that makes Baker NFL ready other than you saying "HEISMAN!!!!!".

    I'd still like you to show me evidence of reads or do you even watch the prospects you talk about?  Because right now I'm leaning towards the latter.   

  • @d-bone said:

    Got to wait and see how the rest of the season, the combine and the draft unfolds... Nobody knows what will happen. It's very possible that both, one or neither will be there with our second 1st round pick. 

    Time will tell. 

    In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 

    @stillmotion said:

    In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 

    Barkley's terrible. You've yet to refute his terrible running stats against good (and some bad) teams.

  • Barkley isnt terrible. Teams stack the box on him. He's a better pure runner than even zeke was and we see what zeke has done. That being said we cant pass on a qb this year.

  • @stillmotion said:

    In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 

    Barkley's terrible. You've yet to refute his terrible running stats against good (and some bad) teams.

    @wargograw said:

    Barkley's terrible. You've yet to refute his terrible running stats against good (and some bad) teams.

    Most teams stack the box against him to try and shut him down. He's a player coming out of the draft I like, and I think he can run as well as anything. Stats aren't the bible, and he has a 5.7 ypc average this year.

  • @d-bone said:

    Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor......  

    Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

    @mark-o said:

    Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

    Personally I don't really like either one.

    I don't know that they would but if the Jets go quarterback with their first pick and cut Josh McCown I would pick him up. We should have kept him in the first place and let him tutor a top rated quarterback. That will be the job of the veteran no matter who we get. I have no idea why people are so enamored with Kirk Cousins.

    WSS

  • I don't want Barkley with the #1 or 2 overall pick, but to say he's horrible is hilarious. He's very talented as a runner, receiver and returner, and teams are selling out completely to stop him, just daring McSorley to beat them.

  • I don't want Barkley with the #1 or 2 overall pick, but to say he's horrible is hilarious. He's very talented as a runner, receiver and returner, and teams are selling out completely to stop him, just daring McSorley to beat them.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I don't want Barkley with the #1 or 2 overall pick, but to say he's horrible is hilarious. He's very talented as a runner, receiver and returner, and teams are selling out completely to stop him, just daring McSorley to beat them.

    Another reason why it is so hard to tag NCAA QBs for how they really will do in the tough NFL game, except for the true once in 20 year can't miss franchise guys (Marino-like and he was passed over) it's a rather fun experiment in crap shooting  (remember Ryan Leaf among others?).

    Oh the next 5 months will be interesting with our Brownies having the inside track for anyone they want.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I don't want Barkley with the #1 or 2 overall pick, but to say he's horrible is hilarious. He's very talented as a runner, receiver and returner, and teams are selling out completely to stop him, just daring McSorley to beat them.

    Another reason why it is so hard to tag NCAA QBs for how they really will do in the tough NFL game, except for the true once in 20 year can't miss franchise guys (Marino-like and he was passed over) it's a rather fun experiment in crap shooting  (remember Ryan Leaf among others?).

    Oh the next 5 months will be interesting with our Brownies having the inside track for anyone they want.

    @mjp28 said:

    Another reason why it is so hard to tag NCAA QBs for how they really will do in the tough NFL game, except for the true once in 20 year can't miss franchise guys (Marino-like and he was passed over) it's a rather fun experiment in crap shooting  (remember Ryan Leaf among others?).

    Oh the next 5 months will be interesting with our Brownies having the inside track for anyone they want.

    The upcoming draft talk this offseason on here is going to be insane. Tempers will flare. 😆

  • prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Another reason why it is so hard to tag NCAA QBs for how they really will do in the tough NFL game, except for the true once in 20 year can't miss franchise guys (Marino-like and he was passed over) it's a rather fun experiment in crap shooting  (remember Ryan Leaf among others?).

    Oh the next 5 months will be interesting with our Brownies having the inside track for anyone they want.

    The upcoming draft talk this offseason on here is going to be insane. Tempers will flare. 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    The upcoming draft talk this offseason on here is going to be insane. Tempers will flare. 😆

    Is it a given the BROWNS will pick a QB with their #1 pick or maybe wait for a lower pick to get a QB? FROM SI, top 10?

    1. Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
    2. Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
    3. Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
    4. Bradley Chubb, EDGE, N.C. State
    5. Sam Darnold, QB, USC
    6. Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
    7. Derwin James, S, Florida State
    8. Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
    9. Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama
    10. Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia

  • prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    @miktoxic said:

    prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    Draft talk always changes from september to draft day, so maybe some of the terrible players coming this year in April are going to be considered future Pro Bowlers.

  • rosen? the kid from toledo? sin't no n. dakota st. unbeaten champs while wentz directed team.

    and if anyone mentions anything out of the big 12 i'll drive 3 days, wait for you to walk out your door and kick you in the nuts.

  • prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    @miktoxic said:

    prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    Jared Goff isn't anything special. Carson Wentz turned out to be pretty good but seriously who here had doubts about him? Problem with DeShone Kizer is that nobody thought he was the first or second even the third best quarterback in the draft.

    If the team wakes up and we win 3 or 4 games the question will be mood this year anyway.

    WSS

  • prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    @miktoxic said:

    prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    This may indeed be true....and I had said so last year when everyone was saying "the 2017 class of QBs sucks compared to what the 2018 class will be".

    Well....not so fast my friend.  Does anyone really thing....as had been predicted by some....that the 2018 class could rival  1983 or 2004 for QBs?

  • @miktoxic said:

    prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    This may indeed be true....and I had said so last year when everyone was saying "the 2017 class of QBs sucks compared to what the 2018 class will be".

    Well....not so fast my friend.  Does anyone really thing....as had been predicted by some....that the 2018 class could rival  1983 or 2004 for QBs?

    @the-gipper said:

    This may indeed be true....and I had said so last year when everyone was saying "the 2017 class of QBs sucks compared to what the 2018 class will be".

    Well....not so fast my friend.  Does anyone really thing....as had been predicted by some....that the 2018 class could rival  1983 or 2004 for QBs?

    They are all tanking to avoid Cleveland in the draft. Idiot Mayfield did not get the memo.😆

  • @miktoxic said:

    prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    Jared Goff isn't anything special. Carson Wentz turned out to be pretty good but seriously who here had doubts about him? Problem with DeShone Kizer is that nobody thought he was the first or second even the third best quarterback in the draft.

    If the team wakes up and we win 3 or 4 games the question will be mood this year anyway.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Jared Goff isn't anything special.

    WSS

    Goff has more wins this month as a QB than every QB on our roster has in their NFL careers. 

  • @miktoxic said:

    prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years.

    a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! 

    time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again.

    Jared Goff isn't anything special. Carson Wentz turned out to be pretty good but seriously who here had doubts about him? Problem with DeShone Kizer is that nobody thought he was the first or second even the third best quarterback in the draft.

    If the team wakes up and we win 3 or 4 games the question will be mood this year anyway.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Jared Goff isn't anything special. Carson Wentz turned out to be pretty good but seriously who here had doubts about him? Problem with DeShone Kizer is that nobody thought he was the first or second even the third best quarterback in the draft.

    If the team wakes up and we win 3 or 4 games the question will be mood this year anyway.

    WSS

    He appears to be a pretty damn good young QB.    So... he's got that going for him. 

  • rosen? the kid from toledo? sin't no n. dakota st. unbeaten champs while wentz directed team.

    and if anyone mentions anything out of the big 12 i'll drive 3 days, wait for you to walk out your door and kick you in the nuts.

    @miktoxic said:

    and if anyone mentions anything out of the big 12 i'll drive 3 days, wait for you to walk out your door and kick you in the nuts.

    Just wanted to read this again....

    lmao!

  • @westside-steve said:

    Jared Goff isn't anything special.

    WSS

    Goff has more wins this month as a QB than every QB on our roster has in their NFL careers. 

    @mark-o said:

    Goff has more wins this month as a QB than every QB on our roster has in their NFL careers. 

    Comparing somebody to our quarterbacks isn't setting a very high bar.

    WSS

  • @mark-o said:

    Goff has more wins this month as a QB than every QB on our roster has in their NFL careers. 

    Comparing somebody to our quarterbacks isn't setting a very high bar.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Comparing somebody to our quarterbacks isn't setting a very high bar.

    WSS

    No its not.   I think Goff is better than you're giving him credit for.  At least this year.  Dude looked like shit last year but is playing really well this year.