You Decide Week 10
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Wow, 14 people voted for Kizer, must be gluttons for punishment. Kizer is really bad, how bad exactly? The absolute worst QB in the NFL. Those wanting another #1 overall are clamoring for Kizer to start. The ones that actually want to win are seeing what is really going on here. As I said before, Hogan should have the chance to redeem himself in another start. He's going to be a FA at the end of the year and we need to know what we have in him. Kessler and Kizer have combined for 15 starts and have won ZERO games over that time. Hogan has one start, and not a single one of us knows what he's truly capable of. Kizer is not getting better, he's just climbing deeper into a hole and playing scared. They are going to run, run, run and Kizer is going to throw shorter and shorter safer passes, he nearly had 3 balls picked the last time he played. You can belittle Hogan if you want, just to spite me but that doesn't mean he still isn't the best option NOW and going forward. Nearly everyone was on board with starting Hogan over Kizer against the Texans... one bad game(quarter) is not a death sentence in the NFL, it takes consistent lack of talent and poor decision making- kinda like what we've seen from Kizer all season.
Wow, 14 people voted for Kizer, must be gluttons for punishment. Kizer is really bad, how bad exactly? The absolute worst QB in the NFL. Those wanting another #1 overall are clamoring for Kizer to start. The ones that actually want to win are seeing what is really going on here. As I said before, Hogan should have the chance to redeem himself in another start. He's going to be a FA at the end of the year and we need to know what we have in him. Kessler and Kizer have combined for 15 starts and have won ZERO games over that time. Hogan has one start, and not a single one of us knows what he's truly capable of. Kizer is not getting better, he's just climbing deeper into a hole and playing scared. They are going to run, run, run and Kizer is going to throw shorter and shorter safer passes, he nearly had 3 balls picked the last time he played. You can belittle Hogan if you want, just to spite me but that doesn't mean he still isn't the best option NOW and going forward. Nearly everyone was on board with starting Hogan over Kizer against the Texans... one bad game(quarter) is not a death sentence in the NFL, it takes consistent lack of talent and poor decision making- kinda like what we've seen from Kizer all season.
PO Kizer is going to get at least 4 more games to see if in the unlikely event he can improve. FWIW, I didn't want Deshone before the draft, and he's showing the world why my opinion is probably correct. Hue's probably said it a dozen times- he's in the business of winning games. LOL, if the McCarron trade had gone through- (I'm glad it didn't) you can about bet Hogan would have been cut.
Regardless I doubt Hogan will be on the roster 2018 because we're for sure drafting the highest rated QB with our first pick.
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Hoorta, I'm with you on the McCarron trade, I'm also glad it didn't work out. But the fact that they even tried is scary.
I guess Kessler is the backup again... smh, I thought Hogan had proved himself and earned more of an opportunity. It's whatever though. It's just not his time yet.
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Hoorta, I'm with you on the McCarron trade, I'm also glad it didn't work out. But the fact that they even tried is scary.
I guess Kessler is the backup again... smh, I thought Hogan had proved himself and earned more of an opportunity. It's whatever though. It's just not his time yet.
I guess Kessler is the backup again... smh, I thought Hogan had proved himself and earned more of an opportunity. It's whatever though. It's just not his time yet.
I think most people want to see Kizer since he's only 21 and we picked him in the second round PoG. I'd like to see Hogan when Hue has better playcalling that suits him. Who knows, Maybe he could light it up with Corey Coleman and Josh Gordon. I think half the people on this board still have no idea if Kizer will be any good so that's why the majority of people want to see him. Bring on the Lions!
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Whether or not to start Kizer has noting to do with winning, or even who the best QB is right now. It all has to do with potential upside, and, in having a clear path in the 2018 draft. Of all our QBs, Kizer has the most physical prowess. All our QBs are purse schidt but none of them but Kizer has any real upside potential to emerge as our QB going forward. Kessler and Hogan are garbage. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.
Is Kizer garbage, too? Hell, I thought so from day one. However, just shut the fahk up already and give this kid a real chance. Sink or swim, let him fauhk up as much as he can. Get it out of his system. Until this kid is playing without Hue's cloud of doom over his shoulder, he is not going to be loose. This season is a joke. We arent going anywhere, so, let's see if the one greatest potential we have can gel.
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Whether or not to start Kizer has noting to do with winning, or even who the best QB is right now. It all has to do with potential upside, and, in having a clear path in the 2018 draft. Of all our QBs, Kizer has the most physical prowess. All our QBs are purse schidt but none of them but Kizer has any real upside potential to emerge as our QB going forward. Kessler and Hogan are garbage. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.
Is Kizer garbage, too? Hell, I thought so from day one. However, just shut the fahk up already and give this kid a real chance. Sink or swim, let him fauhk up as much as he can. Get it out of his system. Until this kid is playing without Hue's cloud of doom over his shoulder, he is not going to be loose. This season is a joke. We arent going anywhere, so, let's see if the one greatest potential we have can gel.
Whether or not to start Kizer has noting to do with winning, or even who the best QB is right now. It all has to do with potential upside, and, in having a clear path in the 2018 draft. Of all our QBs, Kizer has the most physical prowess. All our QBs are purse schidt but none of them but Kizer has any real upside potential to emerge as our QB going forward. Kessler and Hogan are garbage. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.
Is Kizer garbage, too? Hell, I thought so from day one. However, just shut the fahk up already and give this kid a real chance. Sink or swim, let him fauhk up as much as he can. Get it out of his system. Until this kid is playing without Hue's cloud of doom over his shoulder, he is not going to be loose. This season is a joke. We arent going anywhere, so, let's see if the one greatest potential we have can gel.
This. This is the reason.
We have seen Kessler, we know his limits. And Hogan? Well, not as much as Kessler, I give you that, but being castoff of an Andy Reid's team, who I think should be considered more of a QB whisperer than Hue, is a big signal for me.
If we don't give a 21 year old second rounder with bad receivers as many starts as possible in an already lost season, I don't know what are we doing.
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Whether or not to start Kizer has noting to do with winning, or even who the best QB is right now. It all has to do with potential upside, and, in having a clear path in the 2018 draft. Of all our QBs, Kizer has the most physical prowess. All our QBs are purse schidt but none of them but Kizer has any real upside potential to emerge as our QB going forward. Kessler and Hogan are garbage. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.
Is Kizer garbage, too? Hell, I thought so from day one. However, just shut the fahk up already and give this kid a real chance. Sink or swim, let him fauhk up as much as he can. Get it out of his system. Until this kid is playing without Hue's cloud of doom over his shoulder, he is not going to be loose. This season is a joke. We arent going anywhere, so, let's see if the one greatest potential we have can gel.
This. This is the reason.
We have seen Kessler, we know his limits. And Hogan? Well, not as much as Kessler, I give you that, but being castoff of an Andy Reid's team, who I think should be considered more of a QB whisperer than Hue, is a big signal for me.
If we don't give a 21 year old second rounder with bad receivers as many starts as possible in an already lost season, I don't know what are we doing.
If we don't give a 21 year old second rounder with bad receivers as many starts as possible in an already lost season, I don't know what are we doing.
You could say that in Spanish and you'd be just as accurate. Totally agree. And no yanking from the field no mater what happens. Let him play out the string.
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If we don't give a 21 year old second rounder with bad receivers as many starts as possible in an already lost season, I don't know what are we doing.
You could say that in Spanish and you'd be just as accurate. Totally agree. And no yanking from the field no mater what happens. Let him play out the string.
You could say that in Spanish and you'd be just as accurate. Totally agree. And no yanking from the field no mater what happens. Let him play out the string.
Si no le damos a un segunda ronda de veintiún años y con malos receptores tantos partidos como podemos en una temporada que ya está perdida, no sé qué estamos haciendo.
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I chose Kizer because of the potential he flashed against the Steelers and during the preseason. Hue just needs to let him play. Kessler is an OK stopgap but not a franchise QB. I agree we haven't seen a lot of Hogan but what we did see did not point to a franchise QB either. Kizer has the most potential at this point, have to let him sink or swim.
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Whether or not to start Kizer has noting to do with winning, or even who the best QB is right now. It all has to do with potential upside, and, in having a clear path in the 2018 draft. Of all our QBs, Kizer has the most physical prowess. All our QBs are purse schidt but none of them but Kizer has any real upside potential to emerge as our QB going forward. Kessler and Hogan are garbage. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.
Is Kizer garbage, too? Hell, I thought so from day one. However, just shut the fahk up already and give this kid a real chance. Sink or swim, let him fauhk up as much as he can. Get it out of his system. Until this kid is playing without Hue's cloud of doom over his shoulder, he is not going to be loose. This season is a joke. We arent going anywhere, so, let's see if the one greatest potential we have can gel.
Whether or not to start Kizer has noting to do with winning, or even who the best QB is right now. It all has to do with potential upside, and, in having a clear path in the 2018 draft. Of all our QBs, Kizer has the most physical prowess. All our QBs are purse schidt but none of them but Kizer has any real upside potential to emerge as our QB going forward. Kessler and Hogan are garbage. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.
Is Kizer garbage, too? Hell, I thought so from day one. However, just shut the fahk up already and give this kid a real chance. Sink or swim, let him fauhk up as much as he can. Get it out of his system. Until this kid is playing without Hue's cloud of doom over his shoulder, he is not going to be loose. This season is a joke. We arent going anywhere, so, let's see if the one greatest potential we have can gel.
I mean, you're right on one hand, but on the other....we....need....to...win...a game. We MUST. Even if we were 2-6 right now, so much of the pressure would be off, but we're much worse. We're legitimately looking at a winless season. Can we really put Kizer in the rest of the year when he might have the best tools but can't throw a TD pass? When was the last time he even threw a touchdown? Heck, when was the last time he was CLOSE?
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You could say that in Spanish and you'd be just as accurate. Totally agree. And no yanking from the field no mater what happens. Let him play out the string.
Si no le damos a un segunda ronda de veintiún años y con malos receptores tantos partidos como podemos en una temporada que ya está perdida, no sé qué estamos haciendo.
Si no le damos a un segunda ronda de veintiún años y con malos receptores tantos partidos como podemos en una temporada que ya está perdida, no sé qué estamos haciendo.
I translate this into: This is the fuyucking stupidest thread in the history of the Browns Board and the moderators should shut it down immediately before this idiocy spreads like we were all people in The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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Si no le damos a un segunda ronda de veintiún años y con malos receptores tantos partidos como podemos en una temporada que ya está perdida, no sé qué estamos haciendo.
I translate this into: This is the fuyucking stupidest thread in the history of the Browns Board and the moderators should shut it down immediately before this idiocy spreads like we were all people in The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
I translate this into: This is the fuyucking stupidest thread in the history of the Browns Board and the moderators should shut it down immediately before this idiocy spreads like we were all people in The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Exactly what I said.
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Si no le damos a un segunda ronda de veintiún años y con malos receptores tantos partidos como podemos en una temporada que ya está perdida, no sé qué estamos haciendo.
I translate this into: This is the fuyucking stupidest thread in the history of the Browns Board and the moderators should shut it down immediately before this idiocy spreads like we were all people in The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
I translate this into: This is the fuyucking stupidest thread in the history of the Browns Board and the moderators should shut it down immediately before this idiocy spreads like we were all people in The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Just PoG weekly...hey look at me and how much I love our third string QB thread.
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I translate this into: This is the fuyucking stupidest thread in the history of the Browns Board and the moderators should shut it down immediately before this idiocy spreads like we were all people in The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Just PoG weekly...hey look at me and how much I love our third string QB thread.
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I translate this into: This is the fuyucking stupidest thread in the history of the Browns Board and the moderators should shut it down immediately before this idiocy spreads like we were all people in The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Exactly what I said.
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Until Kizer proves that he deserves to trot his non-scoring, turn-over ridden, inaccurate, no touch arm out there each and every game.
To question nothing is to accept everything. I question everything and accept nothing in the search for truth. Hogan is better than Kizer, and those are facts. Screw Kizer's alleged potential because you know what? He sucks. We're taking a QB next draft, likely in the top 3. Hell, we tried to make McCarron the starter mid-season. I don't need to know any more about Kizer's shitty QB play, he's exactly what he was in college and he's hasn't gotten even slightly better. So until Kizer proves that he's better at playing QB than our 3rd stringer he's not getting gifted the most important position in sports from me.
Start Hogan when you're ready to win a game.
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Until Kizer proves that he deserves to trot his non-scoring, turn-over ridden, inaccurate, no touch arm out there each and every game.
To question nothing is to accept everything. I question everything and accept nothing in the search for truth. Hogan is better than Kizer, and those are facts. Screw Kizer's alleged potential because you know what? He sucks. We're taking a QB next draft, likely in the top 3. Hell, we tried to make McCarron the starter mid-season. I don't need to know any more about Kizer's shitty QB play, he's exactly what he was in college and he's hasn't gotten even slightly better. So until Kizer proves that he's better at playing QB than our 3rd stringer he's not getting gifted the most important position in sports from me.
Start Hogan when you're ready to win a game.
Until Kizer proves that he deserves to trot his non-scoring, turn-over ridden, inaccurate, no touch arm out there each and every game.
To question nothing is to accept everything. I question everything and accept nothing in the search for truth.
We question a lot of things as well. Particularly your sanity.
Hogan is better than Kizer, and those are facts. Screw Kizer's alleged potential because you know what? He sucks. We're taking a QB next draft, likely in the top 3. Hell, we tried to make McCarron the starter mid-season. I don't need to know any more about Kizer's shitty QB play, he's exactly what he was in college and he's hasn't gotten even slightly better. So until Kizer proves that he's better at playing QB than our 3rd stringer he's not getting gifted the most important position in sports from or for me.
Start Hogan when you're ready to win a game.
Except that Hogan isn't as close to being as good as he was in college....and hasn't gotten any better. Ergo....you set a double standard. Which means that you lie to yourself.
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Hogan has gotten better since college. He's improved everywhere, mostly his footwork and throwing motion, which was the biggest knock on him.
He reverted or took a step back but he has shown the ability to be very accurate, take deep shots down the field and put good touch on his passes in rhythm.
I don't know who you're trying to kid.
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Hogan has gotten better since college. He's improved everywhere, mostly his footwork and throwing motion, which was the biggest knock on him.
He reverted or took a step back but he has shown the ability to be very accurate, take deep shots down the field and put good touch on his passes in rhythm.
I don't know who you're trying to kid.
Hogan has gotten better since college. He's improved everywhere, mostly his footwork and throwing motion, which was the biggest knock on him.
He reverted or took a step back but he has shown the ability to be very accurate, take deep shots down the field and put good touch on his passes in rhythm.
I don't know who you're trying to kid.
I am trying to "kid" a person with delusions of grandeur for a scrub QB.
Here would be an interesting experiment: What if Hogan were outright released? I would be surprised if he would be picked up by any other team.
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Sashi was instructed to have a statue of Hogan erected outside the stadium to give the QB confidence if he is to start any future games this season .....typical front office they screwed it up
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I predict Hogan will start Week 18...
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