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Hue on the end of the first half: "It's on me"

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  • @dawgs89 said:

    Previous to the coaching change, were the Rams hiring & firing gm's & coaches left and right? They have a stud QB. They've got Gurley.

    Their 2nd year "stud QB" was damn near run out of town last year and proclaimed a "bust" by most fans and media alike here in LA...... Then they hired the right coach, and so far the rest is history. If you've seen every game that Hue has coached for the Browns and can honestly say that, "He's so close to being a great head coach", then I need some of what you're smokin'.... or better yet, I don't! 

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Their 2nd year "stud QB" was damn near run out of town last year and proclaimed a "bust" by most fans and media alike here in LA...... Then they hired the right coach, and so far the rest is history. If you've seen every game that Hue has coached for the Browns and can honestly say that, "He's so close to being a great head coach", then I need some of what you're smokin'.... or better yet, I don't! 

    And the scary thing is that Fisher is a better coach then Hue. 

  • @dawgs89 said:

    Previous to the coaching change, were the Rams hiring & firing gm's & coaches left and right? They have a stud QB. They've got Gurley.

    Their 2nd year "stud QB" was damn near run out of town last year and proclaimed a "bust" by most fans and media alike here in LA...... Then they hired the right coach, and so far the rest is history. If you've seen every game that Hue has coached for the Browns and can honestly say that, "He's so close to being a great head coach", then I need some of what you're smokin'.... or better yet, I don't! 

    runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Their 2nd year "stud QB" was damn near run out of town last year and proclaimed a "bust" by most fans and media alike here in LA...... Then they hired the right coach, and so far the rest is history. If you've seen every game that Hue has coached for the Browns and can honestly say that, "He's so close to being a great head coach", then I need some of what you're smokin'.... or better yet, I don't! 

    To be fair the Rams roster was far better than the Browns, especially on defensive side of the ball. And they had stability that help things like free agents etc being brought on board. Is Hue a great coach, probably not, but I would give him 3 years before blowing up the coaching staff.

  • B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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    I think it was Kizer.  If Hue made the call he would've given some rationalization for why he called it as he has done in the past.  Kizer avoided it as well from what I saw of his presser.  Again what makes me nervous is the lack of accountability all around the organization.  Someone made a stupid call and they should own their mistake, not simply brush it off with lame cliches.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    god I can't do another redo.

  • god I can't do another redo.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    god I can't do another redo.

    Not in 2018 but another 4-12 season and it's inevitable

  • god I can't do another redo.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    god I can't do another redo.

    A new coach doesn't mean a complete redo.  This team isn't that good, but the coach and his play calling and clock management is holding them back as well.   A guy can't lose as many games as a HC that Huey has lost and keep his job.   It just doesn't make any sense.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    god I can't do another redo.

    Not in 2018 but another 4-12 season and it's inevitable

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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    @baconhound said:

    Not in 2018 but another 4-12 season and it's inevitable

    If we go 1-95 with Hue, do you think the NFL would intervene?

  • @baconhound said:

    Not in 2018 but another 4-12 season and it's inevitable

    If we go 1-95 with Hue, do you think the NFL would intervene?

    runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
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    @stillmotion said:

    If we go 1-95 with Hue, do you think the NFL would intervene?

    Maybe they will name the highway after the Browns.

  • god I can't do another redo.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    god I can't do another redo.

    Right now we seemed to be damned if we do, and really damned if we don't...... You don't go 1-24 unless something is wrong somewhere. 

  • @stillmotion said:

    If we go 1-95 with Hue, do you think the NFL would intervene?

    Maybe they will name the highway after the Browns.

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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    @runyon27 said:

    Maybe they will name the highway after the Browns.

    Could you imagine his pressers after 94 losses and 1 win?

  • @clevfan4life said:

    god I can't do another redo.

    Right now we seemed to be damned if we do, and really damned if we don't...... You don't go 1-24 unless something is wrong somewhere. 

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Right now we seemed to be damned if we do, and really damned if we don't...... You don't go 1-24 unless something is wrong somewhere. 

    Could be it's not being ran right from the top down.

    1.) Hire an actual GM who knows what he's doing and demote Sashi

    2.) Make Hue get a qualified OC

    3.) Have qualified GM work with the scouts to not F up the draft

  • @baconhound said:

    Not in 2018 but another 4-12 season and it's inevitable

    If we go 1-95 with Hue, do you think the NFL would intervene?

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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    @stillmotion said:

    If we go 1-95 with Hue, do you think the NFL would intervene?

    I wish they would but the owners in the NFL have more power than the NBA where we saw it with the 76ers.  Plus the Browns being $hitty doesn't hurt the overall NFL product.  The CBS guys at halftime were using the phrased "Browns'ed it up".  The Browns are the laughingstock of the sports world and you still have fans in here defending the process.

  • @stillmotion said:

    If we go 1-95 with Hue, do you think the NFL would intervene?

    I wish they would but the owners in the NFL have more power than the NBA where we saw it with the 76ers.  Plus the Browns being $hitty doesn't hurt the overall NFL product.  The CBS guys at halftime were using the phrased "Browns'ed it up".  The Browns are the laughingstock of the sports world and you still have fans in here defending the process.

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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    @baconhound said:

    I wish they would but the owners in the NFL have more power than the NBA where we saw it with the 76ers.  Plus the Browns being $hitty doesn't hurt the overall NFL product.  The CBS guys at halftime were using the phrased "Browns'ed it up".  The Browns are the laughingstock of the sports world and you still have fans in here defending the process.

    For us to fall as far as just hoping we get one win a year is pathetic. By that point, you're setting the bar so low, that you have to eventually get better.

    to expect normal working people to spend their money on a 1-24 team is just sad. But it's cool. We should just "trust them all" because they're "smart"

  • @baconhound said:

    I wish they would but the owners in the NFL have more power than the NBA where we saw it with the 76ers.  Plus the Browns being $hitty doesn't hurt the overall NFL product.  The CBS guys at halftime were using the phrased "Browns'ed it up".  The Browns are the laughingstock of the sports world and you still have fans in here defending the process.

    For us to fall as far as just hoping we get one win a year is pathetic. By that point, you're setting the bar so low, that you have to eventually get better.

    to expect normal working people to spend their money on a 1-24 team is just sad. But it's cool. We should just "trust them all" because they're "smart"

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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    @stillmotion said:

    For us to fall as far as just hoping we get one win a year is pathetic. By that point, you're setting the bar so low, that you have to eventually get better.

    to expect normal working people to spend their money on a 1-24 team is just sad. But it's cool. We should just "trust them all" because they're "smart"

    I'll be a broken record until it's over.  This team has been better than 5-11 once in the last DECADE.  This isn't 2 years of losing after two decades of success.  It's insane to me that anyone is remotely on board with what this organization has done.

  • @d-bone said:

    Right now we seemed to be damned if we do, and really damned if we don't...... You don't go 1-24 unless something is wrong somewhere. 

    Could be it's not being ran right from the top down.

    1.) Hire an actual GM who knows what he's doing and demote Sashi

    2.) Make Hue get a qualified OC

    3.) Have qualified GM work with the scouts to not F up the draft

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
    #36

    @stillmotion said:

    Could be it's not being ran right from the top down.

    1.) Hire an actual GM who knows what he's doing and demote Sashi

    2.) Make Hue get a qualified OC

    3.) Have qualified GM work with the scouts to not F up the draft

    As unhappy as I am with The Process, and as certain as I am that what the Browns are currently doing will never be successful, I can't stomach a full blown rebuild anymore than even the yellowest SunShine Pumper can. I'm torn between hoping Hue is fired tonight, and hoping that Sashi is demoted/fired tonight.... But we can't do both. 

    I suppose firing Hue, keeping Greg and hiring a new HC and OC would be my choice as I think Hue is the biggest problem with the on field product we all have to sit through each Sunday.

    There shouldn't be a person on the planet that doesn't understand why a 1-24 head coach is fired.  

  • @stillmotion said:

    Could be it's not being ran right from the top down.

    1.) Hire an actual GM who knows what he's doing and demote Sashi

    2.) Make Hue get a qualified OC

    3.) Have qualified GM work with the scouts to not F up the draft

    As unhappy as I am with The Process, and as certain as I am that what the Browns are currently doing will never be successful, I can't stomach a full blown rebuild anymore than even the yellowest SunShine Pumper can. I'm torn between hoping Hue is fired tonight, and hoping that Sashi is demoted/fired tonight.... But we can't do both. 

    I suppose firing Hue, keeping Greg and hiring a new HC and OC would be my choice as I think Hue is the biggest problem with the on field product we all have to sit through each Sunday.

    There shouldn't be a person on the planet that doesn't understand why a 1-24 head coach is fired.  

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
    #37

    @d-bone said:

    As unhappy as I am with The Process, and as certain as I am that what the Browns are currently doing will never be successful, I can't stomach a full blown rebuild anymore than even the yellowest SunShine Pumper can. I'm torn between hoping Hue is fired tonight, and hoping that Sashi is demoted/fired tonight.... But we can't do both. 

    I suppose firing Hue, keeping Greg and hiring a new HC and OC would be my choice as I think Hue is the biggest problem with the on field product we all have to sit through each Sunday.

    There shouldn't be a person on the planet that doesn't understand why a 1-24 head coach is fired.  

    I agree with you.  I don't think yo uneed to do a complete clean house and get rid of everyone.  But something has to be done....1-24 is historically shitty.   Change has to happen at some level, whether in the FO or on the sidelines.  

  • @stillmotion said:

    Could be it's not being ran right from the top down.

    1.) Hire an actual GM who knows what he's doing and demote Sashi

    2.) Make Hue get a qualified OC

    3.) Have qualified GM work with the scouts to not F up the draft

    As unhappy as I am with The Process, and as certain as I am that what the Browns are currently doing will never be successful, I can't stomach a full blown rebuild anymore than even the yellowest SunShine Pumper can. I'm torn between hoping Hue is fired tonight, and hoping that Sashi is demoted/fired tonight.... But we can't do both. 

    I suppose firing Hue, keeping Greg and hiring a new HC and OC would be my choice as I think Hue is the biggest problem with the on field product we all have to sit through each Sunday.

    There shouldn't be a person on the planet that doesn't understand why a 1-24 head coach is fired.  

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
    #38

    @d-bone said:

    As unhappy as I am with The Process, and as certain as I am that what the Browns are currently doing will never be successful, I can't stomach a full blown rebuild anymore than even the yellowest SunShine Pumper can. I'm torn between hoping Hue is fired tonight, and hoping that Sashi is demoted/fired tonight.... But we can't do both. 

    I suppose firing Hue, keeping Greg and hiring a new HC and OC would be my choice as I think Hue is the biggest problem with the on field product we all have to sit through each Sunday.

    There shouldn't be a person on the planet that doesn't understand why a 1-24 head coach is fired.  

    It isn't a rebuild if we keep both Hue and Sashi, which is what i'm suggesting. Add another football mind to the mix and an OC. I'm willing to give that till the end of next year.

  • @d-bone said:

    As unhappy as I am with The Process, and as certain as I am that what the Browns are currently doing will never be successful, I can't stomach a full blown rebuild anymore than even the yellowest SunShine Pumper can. I'm torn between hoping Hue is fired tonight, and hoping that Sashi is demoted/fired tonight.... But we can't do both. 

    I suppose firing Hue, keeping Greg and hiring a new HC and OC would be my choice as I think Hue is the biggest problem with the on field product we all have to sit through each Sunday.

    There shouldn't be a person on the planet that doesn't understand why a 1-24 head coach is fired.  

    I agree with you.  I don't think yo uneed to do a complete clean house and get rid of everyone.  But something has to be done....1-24 is historically shitty.   Change has to happen at some level, whether in the FO or on the sidelines.  

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    I agree with you.  I don't think yo uneed to do a complete clean house and get rid of everyone.  But something has to be done....1-24 is historically shitty.   Change has to happen at some level, whether in the FO or on the sidelines.  

    it's true. doing the same thing over and over is insanity. We should win a few of these close games.

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    ^ Agree with both of you..... but watching the LA Rams right now, and every week after yet another Browns embarrassment, is making it harder to even give 1/2 a  s h i t  if I'm being totally honest. 

  • ^ Agree with both of you..... but watching the LA Rams right now, and every week after yet another Browns embarrassment, is making it harder to even give 1/2 a  s h i t  if I'm being totally honest. 

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
    #41

    @d-bone said:

    ^ Agree with both of you..... but watching the LA Rams right now, and every week after yet another Browns embarrassment, is making it harder to even give 1/2 a  s h i t  if I'm being totally honest. 

    I said in the tavern during hte game...I don't give 1/2 a shit anymore either.   I want the team to win and I'll watch every week and I'll be here rooting for them but this team has to win a lot before I'll care enough about whether they win or lose enough for it to actually bother me when they lose.