The... I am batting (maybe alone) for the front office thread
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I still don't see any football experts with criteria to tell the difference between a Kessler and a Prescott or a Wentz vrs a trade down...
The player evaluators are called "scouts" and, no, you can't see them...
The "vs.tradedown" becomes a consideration only when the scouts are not able to agree/consense with the other evaluation tools on the worth of a prospect... any prospect... commensurate with the pick available.
In the case of a FA, it is worth commensurate with price.
The "vs.tradedown" becomes a consideration only when the scouts are not able to agree/consense with the other evaluation tools on the worth of a prospect... any prospect... commensurate with the pick available.
So T, curious as to who you think makes the pick when the inevitable happens that there is no consensus? Someone has to write a players name on a card and turn it in to the NFL before the clock ticks to zero?
Someone has to have the final say, and it's my understanding that it's Sashi......
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The "vs.tradedown" becomes a consideration only when the scouts are not able to agree/consense with the other evaluation tools on the worth of a prospect... any prospect... commensurate with the pick available.
So T, curious as to who you think makes the pick when the inevitable happens that there is no consensus? Someone has to write a players name on a card and turn it in to the NFL before the clock ticks to zero?
Someone has to have the final say, and it's my understanding that it's Sashi......
So T, curious as to who you think makes the pick when the inevitable happens that there is no consensus? Someone has to write a players name on a card and turn it in to the NFL before the clock ticks to zero?
Someone has to have the final say, and it's my understanding that it's Sashi......
Again.... when there is no consensus player worth the pick, the pick is traded. It is really can be that easy. It is also no different than any FO who has "the guy" you so long for... the guys we've had from Farmer to Chuckles to Holmgren.... guys like Ozzie... guys like Bill... etc... etc.
Now if no trade partner can be found? Then it's the next guy on the board... even if you believe he can be had later in the draft. But generally speaking high picks are not hard to trade,
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So T, curious as to who you think makes the pick when the inevitable happens that there is no consensus? Someone has to write a players name on a card and turn it in to the NFL before the clock ticks to zero?
Someone has to have the final say, and it's my understanding that it's Sashi......
Again.... when there is no consensus player worth the pick, the pick is traded. It is really can be that easy. It is also no different than any FO who has "the guy" you so long for... the guys we've had from Farmer to Chuckles to Holmgren.... guys like Ozzie... guys like Bill... etc... etc.
Now if no trade partner can be found? Then it's the next guy on the board... even if you believe he can be had later in the draft. But generally speaking high picks are not hard to trade,
Again.... when there is no consensus player worth the pick, the pick is traded.
It is really that easy.
Wow..... In my everyday life for 49yrs I know how hard it is to get just three people to agree on anything, much less 5, 8, 11.... Guess we should look for many more trades throughout the life of The Process.
FWIW, it was Sashi himself who said he had 'final say' when Hue was hired/introduced in what seems like a lifetime ago....
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Again.... when there is no consensus player worth the pick, the pick is traded.
It is really that easy.
Wow..... In my everyday life for 49yrs I know how hard it is to get just three people to agree on anything, much less 5, 8, 11.... Guess we should look for many more trades throughout the life of The Process.
FWIW, it was Sashi himself who said he had 'final say' when Hue was hired/introduced in what seems like a lifetime ago....
Wow..... In my everyday life for 49yrs I know how hard it is to get just three people to agree on anything, much less 5, 8, 11.... Guess we should look for many more trades throughout the life of The Process.
FWIW, it was Sashi himself who said he had 'final say' when Hue was hired/introduced in what seems like a lifetime ago....
Maybe you've identified the real problem. Nobody makes decisions, and suffers the consequences, in the Browns organization.
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Wow..... In my everyday life for 49yrs I know how hard it is to get just three people to agree on anything, much less 5, 8, 11.... Guess we should look for many more trades throughout the life of The Process.
FWIW, it was Sashi himself who said he had 'final say' when Hue was hired/introduced in what seems like a lifetime ago....
Maybe you've identified the real problem. Nobody makes decisions, and suffers the consequences, in the Browns organization.
Maybe you've identified the real problem. Nobody makes decisions, and suffers the consequences, in the Browns organization.
no one seems even remotely worried about their job. even kenny britt.
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Maybe you've identified the real problem. Nobody makes decisions, and suffers the consequences, in the Browns organization.
no one seems even remotely worried about their job. even kenny britt.
no one seems even remotely worried about their job. even kenny britt.
At least with Pettine there was a crazy look and a depressed look. The current regime has a Socky, "don't worry we got this" facade.
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no one seems even remotely worried about their job. even kenny britt.
At least with Pettine there was a crazy look and a depressed look. The current regime has a Socky, "don't worry we got this" facade.
At least with Pettine there was a crazy look and a depressed look. The current regime has a Socky, "don't worry we got this" facade.
Well, Pettine hated losing more then Hue. I swear, if Hue gives that stupid "I came here to win" speech that he gives every single week again, I'll lose it.
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At least with Pettine there was a crazy look and a depressed look. The current regime has a Socky, "don't worry we got this" facade.
Well, Pettine hated losing more then Hue. I swear, if Hue gives that stupid "I came here to win" speech that he gives every single week again, I'll lose it.
Well, Pettine hated losing more then Hue. I swear, if Hue gives that stupid "I came here to win" speech that he gives every single week again, I'll lose it.
He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
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Well, Pettine hated losing more then Hue. I swear, if Hue gives that stupid "I came here to win" speech that he gives every single week again, I'll lose it.
He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
"I have perfected the art of losing"...
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He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
"I have perfected the art of losing"...
"I have perfected the art of losing"...
I feel a book deal coming out of this, "The Art Of Losing" by Hue Jackson and Sushi Brown
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"I have perfected the art of losing"...
I feel a book deal coming out of this, "The Art Of Losing" by Hue Jackson and Sushi Brown
I feel a book deal coming out of this, "The Art Of Losing" by Hue Jackson and Sushi Brown
"I lost" by Hue Jackson "How to con a redneck" by Sashi Brown
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Well with the Giants being ass raped by the 49ers....we are very nearly on the clock for the #1 overall pick.
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Well with the Giants being ass raped by the 49ers....we are very nearly on the clock for the #1 overall pick.
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Well with the Giants being ass raped by the 49ers....we are very nearly on the clock for the #1 overall pick.
Well with the Giants being butt raped by the 49ers....we are very nearly on the clock for the #1 overall pick.
Which will be Sam Darold. Then by week 7 next year when the team is 1-6 and he is underachieving, we will here how the departure of Joe Thomas weakened the O-Line so much Tom Brady wouldn't be successful.
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Well, Pettine hated losing more then Hue. I swear, if Hue gives that stupid "I came here to win" speech that he gives every single week again, I'll lose it.
He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
Some people here would cheer for that.
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Well with the Giants being butt raped by the 49ers....we are very nearly on the clock for the #1 overall pick.
Which will be Sam Darold. Then by week 7 next year when the team is 1-6 and he is underachieving, we will here how the departure of Joe Thomas weakened the O-Line so much Tom Brady wouldn't be successful.
Which will be Sam Darold. Then by week 7 next year when the team is 1-6 and he is underachieving, we will here how the departure of Joe Thomas weakened the O-Line so much Tom Brady wouldn't be successful.
SWEET!! We already have 1 win in the 7 games?? The Process works after all!
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Well, Pettine hated losing more then Hue. I swear, if Hue gives that stupid "I came here to win" speech that he gives every single week again, I'll lose it.
He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
You can punch me in the face until your hands broke!
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He should throw a curveball, "I came here to lose until I start winning."
You can punch me in the face until your hands broke!
You can punch me in the face until your hands broke!
Wasn't that a skit on Big Chuck?
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Again.... when there is no consensus player worth the pick, the pick is traded.
It is really that easy.
Wow..... In my everyday life for 49yrs I know how hard it is to get just three people to agree on anything, much less 5, 8, 11.... Guess we should look for many more trades throughout the life of The Process.
FWIW, it was Sashi himself who said he had 'final say' when Hue was hired/introduced in what seems like a lifetime ago....
Wow..... In my everyday life for 49yrs I know how hard it is to get just three people to agree on anything, much less 5, 8, 11.... Guess we should look for many more trades throughout the life of The Process.
FWIW, it was Sashi himself who said he had 'final say' when Hue was hired/introduced in what seems like a lifetime ago....
"Wow"... after all this time you still cannot grasp the concept of consensus decision making. I have no idea what the 2nd half of your opening means.
BTW... that concept does not exclude the idea of the process empowering a person with the "final say"... it simply defines the placement of that say and what it is based upon. The statement by Sashi, one which you are fond of recalling, simply says that he, not Hue, leads the player selection process in which Hue has a role, but for which Hue does not have responsibility.
As for the number of people... best I can tell it is likely capped at 5 rather than starting at 5.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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