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  • @mark-o said:

    Only you would come in here today humping our 3rd string QB after Kizer had his best game of the season.   Since your boyfriend is inactive each week...maybe you can go to the game and sit on his lap and cuddle with him all game long.  He's not doing anything else.   You going to be ok after the season when he's released? 

    Kizer still lost. So by your own logic him having his best game of the season means nothing. Time to go Hogan, clearly.

    @mark-o said:

    Yes they will....if you're a top assistant coach in the league, you're going to jump at the chance to be a Head Coach in the NFL.  There are only 32 of these jobs available.

    And there will be probably be 4 this year and another 4-5 next year. Any coach worth his salt could just wait another year and get a much better job than this one. This "there are only 32 jobs like this" canard is just that.

    @wargograw said:

    Kizer still lost. So by your own logic him having his best game of the season means nothing. Time to go Hogan, clearly.

    Kizer led the offense to 24 points.   That should be good enough to win if the defense had shown up it would've been a win.   But sure..lets play Hogan so we can be down 30 at the half again...that worked out well. 

  • And the D usually keeps the opposing offense down while the O blows the game, but you give them no credit for that and still want to scrap everyone. Be consistent. Hogan should start.

  • And the D usually keeps the opposing offense down while the O blows the game, but you give them no credit for that and still want to scrap everyone. Be consistent. Hogan should start.

    @wargograw said:

    And the D usually keeps the opposing offense down while the O blows the game, but you give them no credit for that and still want to scrap everyone. Be consistent. Hogan should start.

    Usually?    Indy? Cincy? Houston?   How did the defense keep the opposing offense down?   Yesterday they didn't either.  Thats 4 games out of 9.  Hardly usually but hey..dont let the actual score get in the way of your argument.

  • @wargograw said:

    Kizer still lost. So by your own logic him having his best game of the season means nothing. Time to go Hogan, clearly.

    Kizer led the offense to 24 points.   That should be good enough to win if the defense had shown up it would've been a win.   But sure..lets play Hogan so we can be down 30 at the half again...that worked out well. 

    @mark-o said:

    Kizer led the offense to 24 points.   That should be good enough to win if the defense had shown up it would've been a win.   But sure..lets play Hogan so we can be down 30 at the half again...that worked out well. 

    In the games he got in, Hogan did an awesome job in his relief time.

    He had one bad quarter, some of it his fault but some was on the WRs.

    Kizer has started in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven and now eight games without a single win. 

    Hogan is a better QB than Kizer. It's looking like Hogan was making babying Kizer look silly as he pushed him for the starting job, and as soon as Hogan is hurt or has a bad game they can put him out of sight and out of mind like he never challenged for the start at all.

    ... but I remember. Do you 'member? 

  • @mark-o said:

    Kizer led the offense to 24 points.   That should be good enough to win if the defense had shown up it would've been a win.   But sure..lets play Hogan so we can be down 30 at the half again...that worked out well. 

    In the games he got in, Hogan did an awesome job in his relief time.

    He had one bad quarter, some of it his fault but some was on the WRs.

    Kizer has started in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven and now eight games without a single win. 

    Hogan is a better QB than Kizer. It's looking like Hogan was making babying Kizer look silly as he pushed him for the starting job, and as soon as Hogan is hurt or has a bad game they can put him out of sight and out of mind like he never challenged for the start at all.

    ... but I remember. Do you 'member? 

    @poeticg said:

    In the games he got in, Hogan did an awesome job in his relief time.

    Lots of Qb's look great in relief time and then shit the bed when put in as a starter.  Hogan being just the latest in a long list of examples.   But that's ok...you continue to live in fantasy land humping our 3rd string QB.

  • Well, Njoku and DeValve like Hogan more than Kizer. I believe that the guys in the locker room also prefer Hogan over Kizer. But that's okay- you can continue to live in your fantasy land humping the guy that should be the backup Quarterback.

  • @baconhound said:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2017/11/12/who-responsible-browns-bizarre-quarterback-sneak/856915001/

    What's worse is Hue feels he has to fall on the grenade because Kizer can't own his mistakes or the media might hurt his confidence, smh.  Participation Trophy Mentality

    Lighten up. Kizer is a kid. I give Hue props for standing up and taking heat. God knows he is already under enough pressure. So, the kid made a bone headed audible. It had no impact on the outcome of the game.

    @ghoolie said:

    Lighten up. Kizer is a kid. I give Hue props for standing up and taking heat. God knows he is already under enough pressure. So, the kid made a bone headed audible. It had no impact on the outcome of the game.

    He better not be a kid, kids don't do well against men in sports.  Men who own there mistakes have character, men who don't are called kids.

  • Hogan will and should rightfully be the backup QB going into this next game. And if Kizer's ribs are bad you can expect him to play like Sheet. So, Hogan may not be the starter but it will be Hogan that will win us our first game next week! 

  • Guy has one mediocre game and your all sucking his finger.  I still think he sucks.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Guy has one mediocre game and your all sucking his finger.  I still think he sucks.

    & that fine. All I said was he looked improved, a 70 something QBR isn't exactly the second coming of Tom Brady. 

    @wargograw said:

    And the D usually keeps the opposing offense down while the O blows the game, but you give them no credit for that and still want to scrap everyone. Be consistent. Hogan should start.

    Well,  the defense started playing poorly when Collins went out- and just saw he's out for the year. MCL tear.  🙁  

  • @mark-o said:

    Kizer led the offense to 24 points.   That should be good enough to win if the defense had shown up it would've been a win.   But sure..lets play Hogan so we can be down 30 at the half again...that worked out well. 

    In the games he got in, Hogan did an awesome job in his relief time.

    He had one bad quarter, some of it his fault but some was on the WRs.

    Kizer has started in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven and now eight games without a single win. 

    Hogan is a better QB than Kizer. It's looking like Hogan was making babying Kizer look silly as he pushed him for the starting job, and as soon as Hogan is hurt or has a bad game they can put him out of sight and out of mind like he never challenged for the start at all.

    ... but I remember. Do you 'member? 

    @poeticg said:

    In the games he got in, Hogan did an awesome job in his relief time.

    He had one bad quarter, some of it his fault but some was on the WRs.

    Kizer has started in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven and now eight games without a single win. 

    Hogan is a better QB than Kizer. It's looking like Hogan was making babying Kizer look silly as he pushed him for the starting job, and as soon as Hogan is hurt or has a bad game they can put him out of sight and out of mind like he never challenged for the start at all.

    ... but I remember. Do you 'member? 

    Hogan will not be with the team next year and likely not Kessler either.

  • @poeticg said:

    In the games he got in, Hogan did an awesome job in his relief time.

    He had one bad quarter, some of it his fault but some was on the WRs.

    Kizer has started in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven and now eight games without a single win. 

    Hogan is a better QB than Kizer. It's looking like Hogan was making babying Kizer look silly as he pushed him for the starting job, and as soon as Hogan is hurt or has a bad game they can put him out of sight and out of mind like he never challenged for the start at all.

    ... but I remember. Do you 'member? 

    Hogan will not be with the team next year and likely not Kessler either.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Hogan will not be with the team next year and likely not Kessler either.

    And why wouldn't he be? He's not going to cost a lot, he's the best QB on this team and the FO and their stats think so as well. If Anything Hogan starts, Kizer is backup and the new draftee is going to sit and learn proper like. 

  • Hogan will and should rightfully be the backup QB going into this next game. And if Kizer's ribs are bad you can expect him to play like Sheet. So, Hogan may not be the starter but it will be Hogan that will win us our first game next week! 

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan will and should rightfully be the backup QB going into this next game. And if Kizer's ribs are bad you can expect him to play like Sheet. So, Hogan may not be the starter but it will be Hogan that will win us our first game next week! 

    Well, I would say that after last two great appearances by Kessler, Hogan may be in the bench. And if Kizer gets hurt will play. But please, if you exist, don't let that happen, Batman!

  • Well, Njoku and DeValve like Hogan more than Kizer. I believe that the guys in the locker room also prefer Hogan over Kizer. But that's okay- you can continue to live in your fantasy land humping the guy that should be the backup Quarterback.

    @poeticg said:

    Well, Njoku and DeValve like Hogan more than Kizer. I believe that the guys in the locker room also prefer Hogan over Kizer. But that's okay- you can continue to live in your fantasy land humping the guy that should be the backup Quarterback.

    It is pretty funny that is you talking about living in fantasyland now that is hilariousIt is pretty funny that is you talking about living in fantasyland now that is hilarious

  • Well, Njoku and DeValve like Hogan more than Kizer. I believe that the guys in the locker room also prefer Hogan over Kizer. But that's okay- you can continue to live in your fantasy land humping the guy that should be the backup Quarterback.

    @poeticg said:

    Well, Njoku and DeValve like Hogan more than Kizer. I believe that the guys in the locker room also prefer Hogan over Kizer. But that's okay- you can continue to live in your fantasy land humping the guy that should be the backup Quarterback.

    Those two should be more worried about their own play as opposed to who's playing QB.   There's only one person humping a mediocre QB here...and that's the guy you see when you look in the mirror.   Kizer played his best game of the season which was better than his previous best game of the season the week before against Minnesota.   Kizer is the only QB with the upside to be a starter in this league.  He's the guy the rest of the way unless he's injured and since we are likely to be drafting #1 overall next year, we will almost for sure take a QB and if we take a QB #1 overall..he's the guy week 1 next year and we might not have any of the 3 headed suck monsters at QB this year on the roster next year. 

  • @alkid3 said:

    Who's they? And he's still our best receiver. You're proving my point on how trash our receivers are. 

    No he's NOT!.. Gordon is our best receiver , ding dong... Get the glass dikk out of your mouth!

    @nickers said:

    No he's NOT!.. Gordon is our best receiver , ding dong... Get the glass dikk out of your mouth!

    Hahahaha. Well Coleman played this year... Gordon hasn't played in 2. I'm a big Gordon supporter but please stop making yourself look stupid. You like contradicting yourself? Gordon has been sooo available... 

  • @nickers said:

    No he's NOT!.. Gordon is our best receiver , ding dong... Get the glass dikk out of your mouth!

    Hahahaha. Well Coleman played this year... Gordon hasn't played in 2. I'm a big Gordon supporter but please stop making yourself look stupid. You like contradicting yourself? Gordon has been sooo available... 

    @alkid3 said:

    Hahahaha. Well Coleman played this year... Gordon hasn't played in 2. I'm a big Gordon supporter but please stop making yourself look stupid. You like contradicting yourself? Gordon has been sooo available... 

    The difference is Gordon has honest to god talent.. Coleman is a wannabe who has hands of stone and porcelain for legs.. what part of that can't your pea sized brain understand?

  • @alkid3 said:

    Hahahaha. Well Coleman played this year... Gordon hasn't played in 2. I'm a big Gordon supporter but please stop making yourself look stupid. You like contradicting yourself? Gordon has been sooo available... 

    The difference is Gordon has honest to god talent.. Coleman is a wannabe who has hands of stone and porcelain for legs.. what part of that can't your pea sized brain understand?

    @nickers said:

    The difference is Gordon has honest to god talent.. Coleman is a wannabe who has hands of stone and porcelain for legs.. what part of that can't your pea sized brain understand?

    You need to get off Gordon's sack. He's played zero games. Coleman played 1 and played good. Don't be a fool.

  • @nickers said:

    The difference is Gordon has honest to god talent.. Coleman is a wannabe who has hands of stone and porcelain for legs.. what part of that can't your pea sized brain understand?

    You need to get off Gordon's sack. He's played zero games. Coleman played 1 and played good. Don't be a fool.

    @alkid3 said:

    You need to get off Gordon's sack. He's played zero games. Coleman played 1 and played good. Don't be a fool.

    You should get off Coleman's schwanse...... But you must like the taste...

  • @alkid3 said:

    You need to get off Gordon's sack. He's played zero games. Coleman played 1 and played good. Don't be a fool.

    You should get off Coleman's schwanse...... But you must like the taste...

    @nickers said:

    You should get off Coleman's schwanse...... But you must like the taste...

    No. Coleman sucks too. Just like the rest of our practice squad stars. Our wr Corp is trash. 

  • I'm not ready to say Coleman sucks.  I think he's a guy who has suffered some really bad luck, and he's a guy who also made some poor decisions (being around that felony assault at the apartment complex, missing curfew, etc).  On the other hand, I'm not ready to paint him as a good receiver either.  I've always said that I don't see Coleman as a true "#1 WR", but I DO believe he's capable of being an extremely productive #2 IF....if...he has a legit #1 playing along side of him.  As it stands right now, we're going to see if I'm right because Josh Gordon IS a true #1 WR, and I don't give a crap HOW LONG he's been out.  Will he be rusty?  Of course.  Will it take him some time to get used to playing again?  I'm sure.  But keep this in mind:  Josh was high, drunk, or BOTH when he played for us basically every game of his career (according to him).  If he's truly sober now, that HAS to increase his ability level to SOME degree.  It will help his memory with the offense, his ability to recover health wise, and his overall stamina.  

    I've heard some fans ask who would play slot WR for us when we get Josh and Corey back on the field, and the answer is going to shock you.  It's not going to be Corey, it's not going to be Higgins, or even Duke or Dreggs.  Don't be surprised if Josh Gordon plays a large percentage of snaps as our slot receiver when we go with 3 WR formations.  Sound crazy?  Yeah, crazy like a fox.  If you go back and look at when Norv Turner was our OC, Norv LOVED to use Josh Gordon as the slot WR and he did this because he could somewhat control the matchups.  He could get a safety or sometimes a linebacker on Josh, and that's obviously a mismatch 100 times out of 100.  Obviously Josh won't play the slot EVERY DOWN, but you will probably see it more than you might think.  

    Regardless of how long Josh has been out, and that's well documented, he's STILL going to command the opposition's #1 CB, and that means Corey won't face as much pressure.  Corey is nowhere near as big as Josh, and if I had to guess, Corey doesn't do too well against larger, physical corners (I could be wrong, haven't see any numbers.  Just a guess).  Well, Corey won't be facing the big corners when Josh is in the lineup, and I'm excited to see what HE can do when Josh comes back.  Hue Jackson said Corey is "100% ready to go", and that's a good sign.  I'm somewhat concerned about soft-tissue injuries with him, as that's always been a problem, and he's coming back from a lengthy stint on the IR.  But if he CAN stay healthy, I really do believe we'll see some good results.  What we really need to figure out is how to get Corey the ball in open spaces.  We failed at this last year, and we really didn't do it in the first two games this season either.  I can't think of ANY YAC for Corey, and that's just not ok.  He excelled at YAC in college, and we have to devise ways to get him in space so he can use his speed and agility.  Again, if/when Josh is in the game, I think that might be easier to accomplish.