Rumors. Harbaugh, others to Browns??
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Mangini was the best coach the Browns have had since 99
He had a good offense built in short order but the defense was pure shiite. Given more time tho yes, i agree mangini would have built a more complete team. There should have been a million man protest outside berea over that firing. In ine year we went from having one of the most feared ground game in football and being mentioned as potential up and coming teams to........well........whatever the shurm era was
He had a good offense built in short order but the defense was pure shiite. Given more time tho yes, i agree mangini would have built a more complete team. There should have been a million man protest outside berea over that firing. In ine year we went from having one of the most feared ground game in football and being mentioned as potential up and coming teams to........well........whatever the shurm era was
Holmgren liked his guy, shurmur, who i didn't like. Mangini had more heart than all of those other coaches combined. I'll never forget when he beat the Patriots how fired up our guys were.
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He had a good offense built in short order but the defense was pure shiite. Given more time tho yes, i agree mangini would have built a more complete team. There should have been a million man protest outside berea over that firing. In ine year we went from having one of the most feared ground game in football and being mentioned as potential up and coming teams to........well........whatever the shurm era was
Holmgren liked his guy, shurmur, who i didn't like. Mangini had more heart than all of those other coaches combined. I'll never forget when he beat the Patriots how fired up our guys were.
Holmgren liked his guy, shurmur, who i didn't like. Mangini had more heart than all of those other coaches combined. I'll never forget when he beat the Patriots how fired up our guys were.
Yup. Always thoughtbholmgren must have had a back deal with the rooneys to shtcan the browns
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Peyton Manning - VP and GM
Josh McDaniels - HC
Eric Mangini - DC
Art Briles - OC
Would be happy with this .....not gonna happen any of them tho
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Why would any coach worth a damn want to be with the Browns, seriously. Stop
Why would any coach worth a damn want to be with the Browns, seriously. Stop
Competitive guys with huge egos want to show they are IT. Imagine if you are THE coach who turns it around for the Browns. You are a legend who can write your own ticket. Add in a text n of young talent and draft picks, why wouldn't you is a better question.
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Why would any coach worth a damn want to be with the Browns, seriously. Stop
Competitive guys with huge egos want to show they are IT. Imagine if you are THE coach who turns it around for the Browns. You are a legend who can write your own ticket. Add in a text n of young talent and draft picks, why wouldn't you is a better question.
Competitive guys with huge egos want to show they are IT. Imagine if you are THE coach who turns it around for the Browns. You are a legend who can write your own ticket. Add in a text n of young talent and draft picks, why wouldn't you is a better question.
Exactly. We had these same discussions 2 years ago and all the naysayers were saying the same thing, why would anyone come here? We are going to get some no name...etc etc. Then they went out and picked up the coach that was the hot candidate that offseason and experts were all saying that he was the guy who would turn it around in Cleveland. Turns out that looks like a mistake. Doesn't mean you have to live with it forever or even another 23 games of it. Make the move in the offseason and get a HC who will buy into the process.
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Harbaugh > Hue not even close
He'll switch us to a 3-4 tho so thats out. The only reason our 4-3 is decent is because we drafted 2-3 years now 4-3 talent that until this year we used in a 3-4. None of our edges are 3-4 guys. Its a complete decensive over haul say hello to 31st in the league in all categories.
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Competitive guys with huge egos want to show they are IT. Imagine if you are THE coach who turns it around for the Browns. You are a legend who can write your own ticket. Add in a text n of young talent and draft picks, why wouldn't you is a better question.
Exactly. We had these same discussions 2 years ago and all the naysayers were saying the same thing, why would anyone come here? We are going to get some no name...etc etc. Then they went out and picked up the coach that was the hot candidate that offseason and experts were all saying that he was the guy who would turn it around in Cleveland. Turns out that looks like a mistake. Doesn't mean you have to live with it forever or even another 23 games of it. Make the move in the offseason and get a HC who will buy into the process.
Exactly. We had these same discussions 2 years ago and all the naysayers were saying the same thing, why would anyone come here? We are going to get some no name...etc etc. Then they went out and picked up the coach that was the hot candidate that offseason and experts were all saying that he was the guy who would turn it around in Cleveland. Turns out that looks like a mistake. Doesn't mean you have to live with it forever or even another 23 games of it. Make the move in the offseason and get a HC who will buy into the process.
So chud, sherm, pettine.....all household names right?
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Exactly. We had these same discussions 2 years ago and all the naysayers were saying the same thing, why would anyone come here? We are going to get some no name...etc etc. Then they went out and picked up the coach that was the hot candidate that offseason and experts were all saying that he was the guy who would turn it around in Cleveland. Turns out that looks like a mistake. Doesn't mean you have to live with it forever or even another 23 games of it. Make the move in the offseason and get a HC who will buy into the process.
So chud, sherm, pettine.....all household names right?
So chud, sherm, pettine.....all household names right?
Hue Jackson....top hot coordinator in 2016 right??
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Mangini was the best coach the Browns have had since 99
I liked Butch Davis, until he fell in love with Kelly Holcomb.
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Gruden, Harbaugh or Tressel would all be welcomed over Hue.
I'm so over Hue Jackson and the way he coaches. Mangini was 10x better than Jackson.
Gruden, Harbaugh or Tressel would all be welcomed over Hue.
I'm so over Hue Jackson and the way he coaches. Mangini was 10x better than Jackson.
Hell I would put Hue below Chris Palmer who won more with no talent at all
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
Hell I would put Hue below Chris Palmer who won more with no talent at all
Exactly. the 1999 Browns won 2 games. This team and regime might not win 2 games in 2 seasons.
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Hell I would put Hue below Chris Palmer who won more with no talent at all
Exactly. the 1999 Browns won 2 games. This team and regime might not win 2 games in 2 seasons.
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So chud, sherm, pettine.....all household names right?
Hue Jackson....top hot coordinator in 2016 right??
Hue Jackson....top hot coordinator in 2016 right??
If we'd have stuck with Chud / Turner I think we'd have won a playoff game already. I don't think you will see the major coaching changes most think there will be. You will see significant change in the FO and the addition of an assistant HC.
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Hell I would put Hue below Chris Palmer who won more with no talent at all
Isn't it amazing that an expansion team of draft picks and plan B special teamers was better than what the Harvard Think Tank could produce?
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He’s from the state of Ohio so he’s clearly the greatest thing to ever walk on two legs
/sarcasm
Born in Toledo I believe.
And his brother went to the Cradle of Coaches: Miami, Oh.
But, I also understand that if he in fact makes himself available, the Colts may be hot after him as well. (he played for them)
Born in Toledo I believe.
But, I also understand that if he in fact makes himself available, the Colts may be hot after him as well. (he played for them)
Us Toledo peeps aren't hard to find..Jim(Dec.) & Gumby(Apr.). Were both born at Mercy/St Lukes Hospital in Toledo ,Oh. in 1963.. My father coached with Jim & John's father Jack at Perrysburg HS..Watch John Fox at Bears where Jim also played..The DC with Bears is John Fangio..That was Jim's DC when he was at 49'ers.. it could get interesting..but Jim
Michigan..But, If ya make it rain?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Hue Jackson....top hot coordinator in 2016 right??
If we'd have stuck with Chud / Turner I think we'd have won a playoff game already. I don't think you will see the major coaching changes most think there will be. You will see significant change in the FO and the addition of an assistant HC.
If we'd have stuck with Chud / Turner I think we'd have won a playoff game already. I don't think you will see the major coaching changes most think there will be. You will see significant change in the FO and the addition of an assistant HC.
Well...I think that something needs to change, either in the front office or on the sidelines. I'm in favor of replacing the HC myself. But either way...1-24 requires change somewhere.
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Born in Toledo I believe.
But, I also understand that if he in fact makes himself available, the Colts may be hot after him as well. (he played for them)
Us Toledo peeps aren't hard to find..Jim(Dec.) & Gumby(Apr.). Were both born at Mercy/St Lukes Hospital in Toledo ,Oh. in 1963.. My father coached with Jim & John's father Jack at Perrysburg HS..Watch John Fox at Bears where Jim also played..The DC with Bears is John Fangio..That was Jim's DC when he was at 49'ers.. it could get interesting..but Jim
Michigan..But, If ya make it rain?
Us Toledo peeps aren't hard to find..Jim(Dec.) & Gumby(Apr.). Were both born at Mercy/St Lukes Hospital in Toledo ,Oh. in 1963.. My father coached with Jim & John's father Jack at Perrysburg HS..Watch John Fox at Bears where Jim also played..The DC with Bears is John Fangio..That was Jim's DC when he was at 49'ers.. it could get interesting..but Jim
Michigan..But, If ya make it rain?
I went to college at Toledo
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So chud, sherm, pettine.....all household names right?
Hue Jackson....top hot coordinator in 2016 right??
Hue Jackson....top hot coordinator in 2016 right??
One guy. Who also was not at the top of our list of people they thought would come here. He was the 2nd to last hire. "No one" thought we'd get hue, certainly no one on this board.
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