The Philadelphia Eagles are doing it wrong.
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How'd they come up with the 14 or so other starters not mentioned in the article????????
Oh... that's right they were there already... silly me... they only spent two years adding pieces to complete a pretty damn close to made team. Some of whom are in their last gig.
Perfectly applicable article...
How'd they come up with the 14 or so other starters not mentioned in the article????????
Oh... that's right they were there already... silly me... they only spent two years adding pieces to complete a pretty damn close to made team. Some of whom are in their last gig.
Perfectly applicable article...
Isaiah Crowell
Duke Johnson
Joe Thomas
Joel Bitonio
Danny Shelton
Christian Kirksey
Jamie Meder
Nate Orchard
Alex Mack
Mitchell Schwartz
Travis Benjamin
Tashaun Gipson
Terrelle Pryor
Sorry about that
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
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How'd they come up with the 14 or so other starters not mentioned in the article????????
Oh... that's right they were there already... silly me... they only spent two years adding pieces to complete a pretty damn close to made team. Some of whom are in their last gig.
Perfectly applicable article...
Isaiah Crowell
Duke Johnson
Joe Thomas
Joel Bitonio
Danny Shelton
Christian Kirksey
Jamie Meder
Nate Orchard
Alex Mack
Mitchell Schwartz
Travis Benjamin
Tashaun Gipson
Terrelle Pryor
Sorry about that
Sorry about that
Sorry about what?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sorry about that
Sorry about what?
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The Eagles are not that good. Wentz is a bum. The only decent team they've played this year they lost to. They beat the shitty Redskins twice and Chargers and the Broncows. Oh! The Giants and the 49ers! Damn, they're world beaters! LOL they suck.
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The Eagles are not that good. Wentz is a bum. The only decent team they've played this year they lost to. They beat the shitty Redskins twice and Chargers and the Broncows. Oh! The Giants and the 49ers! Damn, they're world beaters! LOL they suck.
The Eagles are not that good. Wentz is a bum. The only decent team they've played this year they lost to. They beat the shitty Redskins twice and Chargers and the Broncows. Oh! The Giants and the 49ers! Damn, they're world beaters! LOL they suck.
I'd love to suck my way to 8-1. Shit..that would be horrible. Best record in the NFL....jesus...why the hell would anyone want that. Can you imagine how good they would be if they had a stiff like Jeff Hogan playing QB and not that shitty Wentz dude?
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Eagles are going to the SB but will get asstooled by the pats
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Not comparable situations in any way.
Iggles had multiple PB-level or actual PB players at every level.. and went 7-9. Browns have... a total of 1. Or, as of this week, 0.
Until Browns have multiple PB players year-in and year-out, getting a championship-level team will take more than just a couple trades.
It sure doesn't hurt that Alshon Jeffrey is slightly better than Kenny Britt.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Not comparable situations in any way.
Iggles had multiple PB-level or actual PB players at every level.. and went 7-9. Browns have... a total of 1. Or, as of this week, 0.
Until Browns have multiple PB players year-in and year-out, getting a championship-level team will take more than just a couple trades.
It sure doesn't hurt that Alshon Jeffrey is slightly better than Kenny Britt.
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It sure doesn't hurt that Alshon Jeffrey is slightly better than Kenny Britt.
U sure about that? I dunno, thats a close one.
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Eagles are going to the SB but will get asstooled by the pats
Eagles are going to the SB but will get asstooled by the pats
Where are they playing the Saints at?
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Not comparable situations in any way.
Iggles had multiple PB-level or actual PB players at every level.. and went 7-9. Browns have... a total of 1. Or, as of this week, 0.
Until Browns have multiple PB players year-in and year-out, getting a championship-level team will take more than just a couple trades.
It sure doesn't hurt that Alshon Jeffrey is slightly better than Kenny Britt.
Not comparable situations in any way.
Iggles had multiple PB-level or actual PB players at every level.. and went 7-9. Browns have... a total of 1. Or, as of this week, 0.
Interesting cause I see the eagles had 4 Pro bowlers and the Browns had 3.
Until Browns have multiple PB players year-in and year-out, getting a championship-level team will take more than just a couple trades.
The year before the Browns had 4 Pro Bowlers
It sure doesn't hurt that Alshon Jeffrey is slightly better than Kenny Britt.
Coleman, Louis, Payton, Higgins, Bowe, Britt
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I look at the rosters and they had half their offense in place in 2015, prior to drafting Wentz. They also used FA a lot, which - again - Haslam has repeatedly indicated he does not want to do... rather build through draft.
Also looks like their defensive roster is predominantly guys they drafted. Their drafts for the last 5 years were mostly defensive players with the exception of 2016.
So yeah, the model of building/drafting defense first, other offensive pieces next and only then going after the QB has been proven once more by the Eagles.
As for the Browns, it's pretty clear that a big deficiency lies in the people evaluating the draft talent. They've been horrible at it for almost 2 decades. Doesn't matter if it's 'football' people or the current method of relying on analytics and all that Combine data.
Since they can't evaluate draft talent and they have some salary cap space, why not buy a QB instead of relying on this ineffective set of scouts to draft one. Maybe they could do this while they overhaul their scouting and player personnel system.
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I look at the rosters and they had half their offense in place in 2015, prior to drafting Wentz. They also used FA a lot, which - again - Haslam has repeatedly indicated he does not want to do... rather build through draft.
Also looks like their defensive roster is predominantly guys they drafted. Their drafts for the last 5 years were mostly defensive players with the exception of 2016.
So yeah, the model of building/drafting defense first, other offensive pieces next and only then going after the QB has been proven once more by the Eagles.
As for the Browns, it's pretty clear that a big deficiency lies in the people evaluating the draft talent. They've been horrible at it for almost 2 decades. Doesn't matter if it's 'football' people or the current method of relying on analytics and all that Combine data.
Since they can't evaluate draft talent and they have some salary cap space, why not buy a QB instead of relying on this ineffective set of scouts to draft one. Maybe they could do this while they overhaul their scouting and player personnel system.
I look at the rosters and they had half their offense in place in 2015, prior to drafting Wentz. They also used FA a lot, which - again - Haslam has repeatedly indicated he does not want to do... rather build through draft.
Also looks like their defensive roster is predominantly guys they drafted. Their drafts for the last 5 years were mostly defensive players with the exception of 2016.
So yeah, the model of building/drafting defense first, other offensive pieces next and only then going after the QB has been proven once more by the Eagles.
As for the Browns, it's pretty clear that a big deficiency lies in the people evaluating the draft talent. They've been horrible at it for almost 2 decades. Doesn't matter if it's 'football' people or the current method of relying on analytics and all that Combine data.
Since they can't evaluate draft talent and they have some salary cap space, why not buy a QB instead of relying on this ineffective set of scouts to draft one. Maybe they could do this while they overhaul their scouting and player personnel system.
Great take... Only quibble I have is over what Jimmah said which I remember as building our core through the draft. There will come a time when we get more aggressive in FA to add those final pieces through FA, but that time is not now. Instead, much as the Eagles did in 2016 we'll add the odd piece here and there, generally no one earth-shattering...
Bradham? Not exactly the most highly sought LB when they signed him... solid player in BUF, but hardly a "star". Barwin? An even earlier example of a great talent in HOU that could not stay healthy there, but has in Philly. Both were good, young players at the time they joined the team. Arguably our trade for/signing of Collins eclipses either of those moves. We also added Taylor at CB followed by McCourty.
Move to 2017 and the Iggles went into "final piece" mode. That's when they added vets like Long to their mix... pass rush depth. Jeffrey and Smith to the WR corps... Blount the battering ram... all players in the back-end of their careers. All players to complete the push now and maybe another year or two. We are not there yet. We are still two years from being there.
Of course the reason they got close enough to make these moves was Wentz. While we may have been willing to spend a high first on him, we weren't sold on him enough to pass up, or essential "spend", two #1's on him. They were and so far that's to their credit... so far.
When we find our guy... and I believe we will... not only will no one care that we did not believe strongly enough in Wentz, all will see us moving toards adding "final pieces".
BOOK IT!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Eff Philly, eff the whole NFC East
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/history/year-by-year-results/1950.html
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I look at the rosters and they had half their offense in place in 2015, prior to drafting Wentz. They also used FA a lot, which - again - Haslam has repeatedly indicated he does not want to do... rather build through draft.
Also looks like their defensive roster is predominantly guys they drafted. Their drafts for the last 5 years were mostly defensive players with the exception of 2016.
So yeah, the model of building/drafting defense first, other offensive pieces next and only then going after the QB has been proven once more by the Eagles.
As for the Browns, it's pretty clear that a big deficiency lies in the people evaluating the draft talent. They've been horrible at it for almost 2 decades. Doesn't matter if it's 'football' people or the current method of relying on analytics and all that Combine data.
Since they can't evaluate draft talent and they have some salary cap space, why not buy a QB instead of relying on this ineffective set of scouts to draft one. Maybe they could do this while they overhaul their scouting and player personnel system.
Great take... Only quibble I have is over what Jimmah said which I remember as building our core through the draft. There will come a time when we get more aggressive in FA to add those final pieces through FA, but that time is not now. Instead, much as the Eagles did in 2016 we'll add the odd piece here and there, generally no one earth-shattering...
Bradham? Not exactly the most highly sought LB when they signed him... solid player in BUF, but hardly a "star". Barwin? An even earlier example of a great talent in HOU that could not stay healthy there, but has in Philly. Both were good, young players at the time they joined the team. Arguably our trade for/signing of Collins eclipses either of those moves. We also added Taylor at CB followed by McCourty.
Move to 2017 and the Iggles went into "final piece" mode. That's when they added vets like Long to their mix... pass rush depth. Jeffrey and Smith to the WR corps... Blount the battering ram... all players in the back-end of their careers. All players to complete the push now and maybe another year or two. We are not there yet. We are still two years from being there.
Of course the reason they got close enough to make these moves was Wentz. While we may have been willing to spend a high first on him, we weren't sold on him enough to pass up, or essential "spend", two #1's on him. They were and so far that's to their credit... so far.
When we find our guy... and I believe we will... not only will no one care that we did not believe strongly enough in Wentz, all will see us moving toards adding "final pieces".
BOOK IT!
When we find our guy... and I believe we will... not only will no one care that we did not believe strongly enough in Wentz, all will see us moving toards adding "final pieces".
BOOK IT!
Meanwhile just read the book.
EDIT: Speaking of which Tour-are you recording the UCLA-USC game so you can look at the fine points of both QBs?
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Better yet, our FO should read this one!
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I look at the rosters and they had half their offense in place in 2015, prior to drafting Wentz. They also used FA a lot, which - again - Haslam has repeatedly indicated he does not want to do... rather build through draft.
Also looks like their defensive roster is predominantly guys they drafted. Their drafts for the last 5 years were mostly defensive players with the exception of 2016.
So yeah, the model of building/drafting defense first, other offensive pieces next and only then going after the QB has been proven once more by the Eagles.
As for the Browns, it's pretty clear that a big deficiency lies in the people evaluating the draft talent. They've been horrible at it for almost 2 decades. Doesn't matter if it's 'football' people or the current method of relying on analytics and all that Combine data.
Since they can't evaluate draft talent and they have some salary cap space, why not buy a QB instead of relying on this ineffective set of scouts to draft one. Maybe they could do this while they overhaul their scouting and player personnel system.
Great take... Only quibble I have is over what Jimmah said which I remember as building our core through the draft. There will come a time when we get more aggressive in FA to add those final pieces through FA, but that time is not now. Instead, much as the Eagles did in 2016 we'll add the odd piece here and there, generally no one earth-shattering...
Bradham? Not exactly the most highly sought LB when they signed him... solid player in BUF, but hardly a "star". Barwin? An even earlier example of a great talent in HOU that could not stay healthy there, but has in Philly. Both were good, young players at the time they joined the team. Arguably our trade for/signing of Collins eclipses either of those moves. We also added Taylor at CB followed by McCourty.
Move to 2017 and the Iggles went into "final piece" mode. That's when they added vets like Long to their mix... pass rush depth. Jeffrey and Smith to the WR corps... Blount the battering ram... all players in the back-end of their careers. All players to complete the push now and maybe another year or two. We are not there yet. We are still two years from being there.
Of course the reason they got close enough to make these moves was Wentz. While we may have been willing to spend a high first on him, we weren't sold on him enough to pass up, or essential "spend", two #1's on him. They were and so far that's to their credit... so far.
When we find our guy... and I believe we will... not only will no one care that we did not believe strongly enough in Wentz, all will see us moving toards adding "final pieces".
BOOK IT!
Great take... Only quibble I have is over what Jimmah said which I remember as building our core through the draft. There will come a time when we get more aggressive in FA to add those final pieces through FA, but that time is not now. Instead, much as the Eagles did in 2016 we'll add the odd piece here and there, generally no one earth-shattering...
Bradham? Not exactly the most highly sought LB when they signed him... solid player in BUF, but hardly a "star". Barwin? An even earlier example of a great talent in HOU that could not stay healthy there, but has in Philly. Both were good, young players at the time they joined the team. Arguably our trade for/signing of Collins eclipses either of those moves. We also added Taylor at CB followed by McCourty.
Move to 2017 and the Iggles went into "final piece" mode. That's when they added vets like Long to their mix... pass rush depth. Jeffrey and Smith to the WR corps... Blount the battering ram... all players in the back-end of their careers. All players to complete the push now and maybe another year or two. We are not there yet. We are still two years from being there.
Of course the reason they got close enough to make these moves was Wentz. While we may have been willing to spend a high first on him, we weren't sold on him enough to pass up, or essential "spend", two #1's on him. They were and so far that's to their credit... so far.
When we find our guy... and I believe we will... not only will no one care that we did not believe strongly enough in Wentz, all will see us moving toards adding "final pieces".
BOOK IT!
You restore my hope for this board daily my man !!
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Great take... Only quibble I have is over what Jimmah said which I remember as building our core through the draft. There will come a time when we get more aggressive in FA to add those final pieces through FA, but that time is not now. Instead, much as the Eagles did in 2016 we'll add the odd piece here and there, generally no one earth-shattering...
Bradham? Not exactly the most highly sought LB when they signed him... solid player in BUF, but hardly a "star". Barwin? An even earlier example of a great talent in HOU that could not stay healthy there, but has in Philly. Both were good, young players at the time they joined the team. Arguably our trade for/signing of Collins eclipses either of those moves. We also added Taylor at CB followed by McCourty.
Move to 2017 and the Iggles went into "final piece" mode. That's when they added vets like Long to their mix... pass rush depth. Jeffrey and Smith to the WR corps... Blount the battering ram... all players in the back-end of their careers. All players to complete the push now and maybe another year or two. We are not there yet. We are still two years from being there.
Of course the reason they got close enough to make these moves was Wentz. While we may have been willing to spend a high first on him, we weren't sold on him enough to pass up, or essential "spend", two #1's on him. They were and so far that's to their credit... so far.
When we find our guy... and I believe we will... not only will no one care that we did not believe strongly enough in Wentz, all will see us moving toards adding "final pieces".
BOOK IT!
You restore my hope for this board daily my man !!
You restore my hope for this board daily my man !!
My name is Tour and I'm here to help...
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LOL!
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