Josh Gordon - the missing piece
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I get what you're saying Clev... I just think it sends the wrong message to the team and the league and I don't think there will be any trade deals with him. Hell I don't even think anyone would pick him up if we cut him.
I get what you're saying Clev... I just think it sends the wrong message to the team and the league and I don't think there will be any trade deals with him. Hell I don't even think anyone would pick him up if we cut him.
A guy who's running a 4.3 after being out of the league for two years? Plus he's led the league in receiving over a a12 game season, have you been partaking in what Josh left off?
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HAHAHAHAHA Not cutting this dumb Shmuck ASAP shows only that this organization hasn't learned a god damned thing.
Well think about it, if he olays sonewhat well for a few games his trade stock goes up. Cutting him gets us nothing. He cant hurt the team at this point
Well think about it, if he olays sonewhat well for a few games his trade stock goes up. Cutting him gets us nothing. He cant hurt the team at this point
what the Shmuck...you think these other teams are as Shmucking stupid as the browns...they will see as you say olaying and won't want anything to do with him....are you nuts....would you want him after watching him olay
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Yes, exactly. Kizer already has his many issues and now he's got the sweet baby back ribs special to pile onto the suckage.
Hogan is known to be very cerebral and capable of dissecting a defense and making plays happen in rhythm. Hogan didn't have Coleman or Britt, both were sent home before the Huston game. All I know is if Hogan had Britt, Coleman and Gordon at his disposal he's going to put up Matt Ryan numbers.
Lol now that's funny
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Don't forget that Cleveland dropped Belichick to early. I still think Hue Jackson will be a great coach.
Don't forget that Cleveland dropped Belichick to early. I still think Hue Jackson will be a great coach.
mmmmm. didn't the browns pack up and leave for baltimore while he was still the coach...if i remember correctly, the year before belichick took the clowns to the playoffs and ironically beat the pats before losing to the steelers for the 3rd time. then the following yr, they started off pretty good until the rumor became a fact about the move...so i think he was without a job..he did not get let go....
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Well think about it, if he olays sonewhat well for a few games his trade stock goes up. Cutting him gets us nothing. He cant hurt the team at this point
what the Shmuck...you think these other teams are as Shmucking stupid as the browns...they will see as you say olaying and won't want anything to do with him....are you nuts....would you want him after watching him olay
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Don't forget that Cleveland dropped Belichick to early. I still think Hue Jackson will be a great coach.
mmmmm. didn't the browns pack up and leave for baltimore while he was still the coach...if i remember correctly, the year before belichick took the clowns to the playoffs and ironically beat the pats before losing to the steelers for the 3rd time. then the following yr, they started off pretty good until the rumor became a fact about the move...so i think he was without a job..he did not get let go....
mmmmm. didn't the browns pack up and leave for baltimore while he was still the coach...if i remember correctly, the year before belichick took the clowns to the playoffs and ironically beat the pats before losing to the steelers for the 3rd time. then the following yr, they started off pretty good until the rumor became a fact about the move...so i think he was without a job..he did not get let go....
Not only that, Belichick himself remarked that he was never going to be the guy destined to have a bust in the HOF in Cleveland. He said he needed to get fired to learn things about himself.
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Thanks for all the optimistic comments by Browns fans. Time will certainly give us more information. Let's mark these pages.
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kizer is a one trick , one read QB.. get over it...
Yes, exactly. Kizer already has his many issues and now he's got the sweet baby back ribs special to pile onto the suckage.
Hogan is known to be very cerebral and capable of dissecting a defense and making plays happen in rhythm. Hogan didn't have Coleman or Britt, both were sent home before the Huston game. All I know is if Hogan had Britt, Coleman and Gordon at his disposal he's going to put up Matt Ryan numbers.
Yes, exactly. Kizer already has his many issues and now he's got the sweet baby back ribs special to pile onto the suckage.
Hogan is known to be very cerebral and capable of dissecting a defense and making plays happen in rhythm. Hogan didn't have Coleman or Britt, both were sent home before the Huston game. All I know is if Hogan had Britt, Coleman and Gordon at his disposal he's going to put up Matt Ryan numbers.
Well now we know you're just Shmucking trolling.
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Kizer is a very smart Quarterback and his development showed on Sunday. Josh Gordon is one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. He has finally recognized the need to drop the drugs and he is ready to really make a difference. Even though the record is 0 and 9, the Browns development is happening. The worst mistake that could be made now would be to start over and get new coaches. Leave everyone where they are and let the development continue. I'm expecting the experienced Kizer and the renewed Gordon to make a huge impact on the NFL.
Kizer is a very
smartyoung Quarterback and his development showed on Sunday. Josh Gordoniswas one of the best wide receivers in the NFL.Minor mods to some pretty good stuff from a rookie...
Kizer has made progress, but has a ways to go and may not get there convincingly in the remaining time. No telling what Gordon has left for the game, but I look forward to seeing what he has.
Welcome to the Boards...
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Next 7 games will tell... If we don't get 2-4 wins (which is not likely), or show some promise, the coach is going to be in jeopardy.
Let's hope everything goes to better. Kizer had an acceptable game against Minnesota and improved in Detroit. He needs to get better every game, and I hope he does against Jacksonville, and Coleman contributes too.
As for Gordon, he's coming back in 2 weeks. Let's talk about him then.
Next 7 games will tell... If we don't get 2-4 wins (which is not likely), or show some promise, the coach is going to be in jeopardy.
Depends on the nature of the losses more than the numbers. But personally I think Hue is safe so long as he does accept "help" of some sort in an expanded staff.
Will he loaf off the line like he was doing when hoyer was here?
In fairness to Josh, if he ran full out he outran Hoyer's arm in about 2.4 seconds. Not going to be the case come week 13.*
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* unless we actually start Hogan...
kizer is a one trick , one read QB.. get over it...
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I get what you're saying Clev... I just think it sends the wrong message to the team and the league and I don't think there will be any trade deals with him. Hell I don't even think anyone would pick him up if we cut him.
I get what you're saying Clev... I just think it sends the wrong message to the team and the league and I don't think there will be any trade deals with him. Hell I don't even think anyone would pick him up if we cut him.
Well that’s because you’re stupid
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I get what you're saying Clev... I just think it sends the wrong message to the team and the league and I don't think there will be any trade deals with him. Hell I don't even think anyone would pick him up if we cut him.
Well that’s because you’re stupid
Well that’s because you’re stupid
Funny.. The "Stupid" calling others stupid.. LOL
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Kizer is a very
smartyoung Quarterback and his development showed on Sunday. Josh Gordoniswas one of the best wide receivers in the NFL.Minor mods to some pretty good stuff from a rookie...
Kizer has made progress, but has a ways to go and may not get there convincingly in the remaining time. No telling what Gordon has left for the game, but I look forward to seeing what he has.
Welcome to the Boards...
Minor mods to some pretty good stuff from a rookie...
Kizer has made progress, but has a ways to go and may not get there convincingly in the remaining time. No telling what Gordon has left for the game, but I look forward to seeing what he has.
Welcome to the Boards...
Thank you for your thoughtful, intelligent comments. Kizer is young. Should we have drafted Watson and let Garrret go? I don't think so. I was listening to the Detroit radio announcers and they were praising Kizer's game and even said there could have been a different outcome if he had played the whole game. I come to a Cleveland forum and I see less praise than opposing radio announcers. We need more spirit leaders. I still think we are headed in the right direction. Patience is needed. A little trivia - In 1965 we were were parked next to Jim browns' car in the parking lot and he got in and drove away.
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Don't forget that Cleveland dropped Belichick to early. I still think Hue Jackson will be a great coach.
mmmmm. didn't the browns pack up and leave for baltimore while he was still the coach...if i remember correctly, the year before belichick took the clowns to the playoffs and ironically beat the pats before losing to the steelers for the 3rd time. then the following yr, they started off pretty good until the rumor became a fact about the move...so i think he was without a job..he did not get let go....
mmmmm. didn't the browns pack up and leave for baltimore while he was still the coach...if i remember correctly, the year before belichick took the clowns to the playoffs and ironically beat the pats before losing to the steelers for the 3rd time. then the following yr, they started off pretty good until the rumor became a fact about the move...so i think he was without a job..he did not get let go....
Thanks for clarifying. I always wondered why he was let go.
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Wentz would have looked great in a orange helmet, throwing bombs to JG..
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I get what you're saying Clev... I just think it sends the wrong message to the team and the league and I don't think there will be any trade deals with him. Hell I don't even think anyone would pick him up if we cut him.
I get what you're saying Clev... I just think it sends the wrong message to the team and the league and I don't think there will be any trade deals with him. Hell I don't even think anyone would pick him up if we cut him.
You R nuts if you think we should cut Josh. The Bengals drafted Mixon after he cold-Socked that chick for example, & Ray Lewis watched 2 guys get killed by his posse and got off scot free. So you tell me what's worse, that or drinking and smoking weed? As Josh said, plenty of other NFL players light up, but they're not in the abuse program, so they know when to quit so they don't get caught. He's a recovering addict, and he knows damn well this his last chance to fly right. He's also dirt cheap this year and next relative to his talent level. Since he's getting activated for only 5 games, that means he's only going to get 5\16 of his $1 million salary- $333k. Rookie minimum for a season is $450k. So Gordon is getting a 5 game tryout for less than what were paying Zane Gonzalez to miss field goals. There would be plenty of teams willing to take a chance to see if Josh has his demons in check, especially at his salary level. If he performs, you can bet his next contract is going to have plenty of "outs" for any team that signs him.
In fairness to Josh, if he ran full out he'd outrun Hogan's arm in about 2.4 seconds.
ROTFL, FIFY

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Minor mods to some pretty good stuff from a rookie...
Kizer has made progress, but has a ways to go and may not get there convincingly in the remaining time. No telling what Gordon has left for the game, but I look forward to seeing what he has.
Welcome to the Boards...
Thank you for your thoughtful, intelligent comments. Kizer is young. Should we have drafted Watson and let Garrret go? I don't think so. I was listening to the Detroit radio announcers and they were praising Kizer's game and even said there could have been a different outcome if he had played the whole game. I come to a Cleveland forum and I see less praise than opposing radio announcers. We need more spirit leaders. I still think we are headed in the right direction. Patience is needed. A little trivia - In 1965 we were were parked next to Jim browns' car in the parking lot and he got in and drove away.
What exactly has Coughlin done?
Thank you for your thoughtful, intelligent comments. Kizer is young. Should we have drafted Watson and let Garrret go? I don't think so. I was listening to the Detroit radio announcers and they were praising Kizer's game and even said there could have been a different outcome if he had played the whole game. I come to a Cleveland forum and I see less praise than opposing radio announcers. We need more spirit leaders. I still think we are headed in the right direction. Patience is needed. A little trivia - In 1965 we were were parked next to Jim browns' car in the parking lot and he got in and drove away.
You're welcome... and apparently a fellow codger... so double welcome.
Of all the things Hue has been criticized for, putting Kizer back in the second he was cleared and had is helmet on is the most legit to my mind. Instead of being in the game he stood behind Hue watching Kessler try to throw the ball 50+ yds downfield to a wide open Treggs...
That was a travesty.
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What exactly has Coughlin done?
Thank you for your thoughtful, intelligent comments. Kizer is young. Should we have drafted Watson and let Garrret go? I don't think so. I was listening to the Detroit radio announcers and they were praising Kizer's game and even said there could have been a different outcome if he had played the whole game. I come to a Cleveland forum and I see less praise than opposing radio announcers. We need more spirit leaders. I still think we are headed in the right direction. Patience is needed. A little trivia - In 1965 we were were parked next to Jim browns' car in the parking lot and he got in and drove away.
You're welcome... and apparently a fellow codger... so double welcome.
Of all the things Hue has been criticized for, putting Kizer back in the second he was cleared and had is helmet on is the most legit to my mind. Instead of being in the game he stood behind Hue watching Kessler try to throw the ball 50+ yds downfield to a wide open Treggs...
That was a travesty.
Of all the things Hue has been criticized for, putting Kizer back in the second he was cleared and had is helmet on is the most legit to my mind. Instead of being in the game he stood behind Hue watching Kessler try to throw the ball 50+ yds downfield to a wide open Treggs...
That was a travesty.
And unfortunately very symbolic of his boneheaded clutch time coaching. He's just not very good at it.
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