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  • @wargograw said:

    Egggggsactly.

    Why is that?  You think that because it's the Browns that they could never get the highly sought after candidate? 

    @mark-o said:

    Why is that?  You think that because it's the Browns that they could never get the highly sought after candidate? 

    umm...in a word...YES

    Have you not seen what's been going on around here since Jimmuh took over?  The man fired the coach and FO when he got here.  Then he fired the new coach & FO the very next year.  Two more years and fired another coach & GM.  And now he's got the Harvard Think Tank making all of the decisions...and they've made the team incapable of winning a single game while supplying OTHER teams with their franchise QB's.  And we JUST recently had the coach's daughter and the owner's wife blasting the FO.  -  WTF - Who in their right mind would wanna come here?

    How 'bout this?  If a coach came out and said, "I want to coach the Cleveland Browns"....I wouldn't hire him, because he'd have to be phucked in the head!

  • Or Gruden?   You never know:

    https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/Article/ESPN-analyst-Jon-Gruden-on-returning-to-coaching-You-never-know-110265673

    This says he may be a candidate for the newly opened Univ. of Tennessee job.

    But he is a Sandusky native?   Come home?

    @the-gipper said:

    Or Gruden?   You never know:

    https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/Article/ESPN-analyst-Jon-Gruden-on-returning-to-coaching-You-never-know-110265673

    This says he may be a candidate for the newly opened Univ. of Tennessee job.

    But he is a Sandusky native?   Come home?

    Fauhk Gruden. He is more boring than a toilet brush.

  • @mark-o said:

    Why is that?  You think that because it's the Browns that they could never get the highly sought after candidate? 

    umm...in a word...YES

    Have you not seen what's been going on around here since Jimmuh took over?  The man fired the coach and FO when he got here.  Then he fired the new coach & FO the very next year.  Two more years and fired another coach & GM.  And now he's got the Harvard Think Tank making all of the decisions...and they've made the team incapable of winning a single game while supplying OTHER teams with their franchise QB's.  And we JUST recently had the coach's daughter and the owner's wife blasting the FO.  -  WTF - Who in their right mind would wanna come here?

    How 'bout this?  If a coach came out and said, "I want to coach the Cleveland Browns"....I wouldn't hire him, because he'd have to be phucked in the head!

    @orion said:

    umm...in a word...YES

    Have you not seen what's been going on around here since Jimmuh took over?  The man fired the coach and FO when he got here.  Then he fired the new coach & FO the very next year.  Two more years and fired another coach & GM.  And now he's got the Harvard Think Tank making all of the decisions...and they've made the team incapable of winning a single game while supplying OTHER teams with their franchise QB's.  And we JUST recently had the coach's daughter and the owner's wife blasting the FO.  -  WTF - Who in their right mind would wanna come here?

    How 'bout this?  If a coach came out and said, "I want to coach the Cleveland Browns"....I wouldn't hire him, because he'd have to be phucked in the head!

    You do realize however that the guy coaching the Browns was considered the hot and highly sought after candidate right?    He was the guy that was interviewing in other places and he choose the Browns.   The same Browns were recognized as getting the best of the new coaching hires (i've already posted the links in another thread so i'm not looking it up again), he was the guy...the man...the guy that was being talked about all throughout the end of the 2015 season as the guy that would be a HC the next season and he came here.   So.....I guess the point would be that the Browns have already gotten that guy once, I don't think it has turned out well and he should be replaced, so there's no reason to think they can't get the next great NFL head coach to come to Cleveland.  We don't know who that guy is...and we won't know till whoever it is comes here and starts winning games. 

  • @orion said:

    umm...in a word...YES

    Have you not seen what's been going on around here since Jimmuh took over?  The man fired the coach and FO when he got here.  Then he fired the new coach & FO the very next year.  Two more years and fired another coach & GM.  And now he's got the Harvard Think Tank making all of the decisions...and they've made the team incapable of winning a single game while supplying OTHER teams with their franchise QB's.  And we JUST recently had the coach's daughter and the owner's wife blasting the FO.  -  WTF - Who in their right mind would wanna come here?

    How 'bout this?  If a coach came out and said, "I want to coach the Cleveland Browns"....I wouldn't hire him, because he'd have to be phucked in the head!

    You do realize however that the guy coaching the Browns was considered the hot and highly sought after candidate right?    He was the guy that was interviewing in other places and he choose the Browns.   The same Browns were recognized as getting the best of the new coaching hires (i've already posted the links in another thread so i'm not looking it up again), he was the guy...the man...the guy that was being talked about all throughout the end of the 2015 season as the guy that would be a HC the next season and he came here.   So.....I guess the point would be that the Browns have already gotten that guy once, I don't think it has turned out well and he should be replaced, so there's no reason to think they can't get the next great NFL head coach to come to Cleveland.  We don't know who that guy is...and we won't know till whoever it is comes here and starts winning games. 

    @mark-o said:

    You do realize however

    Yes, I do.  And he can't do squat with what the Harvard Think Tank lets him have.  And when / if his butt gets shown the door at season's end HIS name will be mud just like everyone else that coached under Haslam.

  • @mark-o said:

    You do realize however

    Yes, I do.  And he can't do squat with what the Harvard Think Tank lets him have.  And when / if his butt gets shown the door at season's end HIS name will be mud just like everyone else that coached under Haslam.

    @orion said:

    Yes, I do.  And he can't do squat with what the Harvard Think Tank lets him have.  And when / if his butt gets shown the door at season's end HIS name will be mud just like everyone else that coached under Haslam.

    You're contradicting yourself...you said the Browns can't get the highly sought after candidate and then agree with me when I tell you we already got that guy once.  So which is it?  Can the Browns get the highly sought after candidate or not?   I'd say they certainly can....money plus the fact that it's 1 of 32 of these jobs in the world will make a young hot coordinator ready to take that next step to be a head coach.  If they don't want the challenge or whatever of working in Cleveland..then fuck em...they aren't the guy for the challenge anyways.

  • Not tired enough of drafting missagain players that never pan out? Now it's their coaches too? 

    (only half kidding) 

  • @mark-o said:

    You've already said that he was hired right before training camp which I've shown to be cowpoop on more than one occasion. 

    jesus Christ.

    @clevfan4life said:

    jesus Christ.

    Not sure if even Jesus would want to coach this bunch.

  • @the-gipper said:

    It is not beyond the realm of possibility that Jim Harbaugh could be the next HC of the Cleveland Browns:

    http://www.diehardsport.com/college-football/jim-harbaugh-nfl-rumors-swirling/

    They'll have to pay him Belichick money Gip. College coaches get paid way better than NFL coaches. No one knows what Bill actually makes, but Sean Payton was getting $8 million. Nick Saban makes $11.5 at Alabama. Plus top college guys have damn near lifetime job security. 

    @poeticg said:

    Gruden, Harbaugh or Tressel would all be welcomed over Hue. 

    I'm so over Hue Jackson and the way he coaches. Mangini was 10x better than Jackson.

    Gruden isn't coming. Tressel isn't coming. I doubt Harbaugh is. 

    @hoorta said:

    They'll have to pay him Belichick money Gip. College coaches get paid way better than NFL coaches. No one knows what Bill actually makes, but Sean Payton was getting $8 million. Nick Saban makes $11.5 at Alabama. Plus top college guys have damn near lifetime job security. 

    Gruden isn't coming. Tressel isn't coming. I doubt Harbaugh is. 

    Harbaugh (about $9M) makes more than BB now and it's not always about money (in their neighborhood), more ego, control etc. Plus Gruden probably no, Tressel no.

    I think these numbers are pretty current:

    Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $8,000,000
    Sean Payton New Orleans Saints $8,000,000
    Bill Belichick New England Patriots $7,500,000
    Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs $7,500,000
    John Harbaugh Baltimore Ravens $7,000,000
    Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $7,000,000
    Mike McCarthy Green Bay Packers $6,000,000
    Jason Garrett Dallas Cowboys $6,000,000
    Bruce Arians Arizona Cardinals $6,000,000
    Jay Gruden Washington Redskins $5,000,000
    Bill O’Brien Houston Texans $5,000,000
    Chuck Pagano Indianapolis Colts $4,500,000
    Dan Quinn Atlanta Falcons $4,500,000
    Marvin Lewis Cincinnati Bengals $4,500,000
    John Fox Chicago Bears $4,250,000
    Mike Zimmer Minnesota Vikings $4,000,000
    Ron Rivera Carolina Panthers $4,000,000
    Todd Bowles New York Jets $4,000,000
    Jim Caldwell Detroit Lions $4,000,000
    Jack Del Rio Oakland Raiders $3,500,000
  • @the-gipper said:

    Precisely.   And prestige.   Again....there are only 32 of those jobs.

    31.  And if ya can't get one of those then ya wait 'til next year....rather than go to football's Siberia.  

    @orion said:

    31.  And if ya can't get one of those then ya wait 'til next year....rather than go to football's Siberia.  

    No way.  You have no clue if there will be any opportunity "next year".

  • Once again the team stinks and everyone is convinced it's not that the talent is missing it's the coaches fault.

    @baconhound said:

    Once again the team stinks and everyone is convinced it's not that the talent is missing it's the coaches fault.

    It is some of both.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Still doesnt change the fact that the city is a football town.

    If Belichick looked at the cast of misfits who coached the Patriots before him, he would have turned around at the state line and gone home. The Browns are due for something good.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    The Browns are due for something good.

    You mean like a spiced honey mead wine?

    Pit of Misery! Dilly Dilly!

  • @boo-fagley said:

    The Browns are due for something good.

    You mean like a spiced honey mead wine?

    Pit of Misery! Dilly Dilly!

    @texasag1969 said:

    You mean like a spiced honey mead wine?

    Pit of Misery! Dilly Dilly!

    Dilly-Dilly!

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Carroll was a clown who took a super bowl roster and drove it into the ground.

    Why do you think that he was fired in year 3?

    Of course Parcells was good. Just like Marty was good. I was referring to all the other Rummys throughout franchise history. No HC worth his whistle is going to turn down the Browns job because of Butch Davis 15 years ago.

    Super Bowl Champ and played in another.  Part of the regime that built the Legion of Boom and brought in Russell Wilson, ain't no clown.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Not in NE. Never won a playoff game.

    Why would I care about Carrol after he was fired. Do you care about Crennel and Mangini?

    Did they win/appear in Super Bowls as HCs after they left here?

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Not in NE. Never won a playoff game.

    Why would I care about Carrol after he was fired. Do you care about Crennel and Mangini?

    Beep Beep Beep, back peddle?

    You called Belichick's predecessors clowns.  Don't back up, just admit you misspoke.  It happens man, I do it once a weekend.  It's ok

  • A coach at a top college would be crazy to take a NFL job.

    The settings are usually very nice.  The perks are great....Spurrier got a Augusta membership to coach at South Carolina.  They control( to a degree) who they can bring in, and can control those guys because if their wish is to play in the NFL, they have to listen to the coach.

    Plus, they make more than the help.  It's never good when the boss is making less than his crew.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    If they did what difference would it make in Cleveland?

    The difference is that we then could bemoan the fact that they let to of a coach who was capable of winning a championship.  None of the string of HCs who have been here since BB can be said to be SB caliber HCs, fair to say?  Even with BB it took him at least 5 years to get another HC gig, but, when he was here, despite the consternation that had come before, the Cleveland fan base had come to see that he had high coaching competence.  it It took him getting lucky to get Brady to become a Championship coach....but without TB he at least can be seen to be a coach who would have his team competitive and challenging for playoffs, if not Championships.   As he had here before the whole "move" debacle.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    If they did what difference would it make in Cleveland?

    The difference is that we then could bemoan the fact that they let to of a coach who was capable of winning a championship.  None of the string of HCs who have been here since BB can be said to be SB caliber HCs, fair to say?  Even with BB it took him at least 5 years to get another HC gig, but, when he was here, despite the consternation that had come before, the Cleveland fan base had come to see that he had high coaching competence.  it It took him getting lucky to get Brady to become a Championship coach....but without TB he at least can be seen to be a coach who would have his team competitive and challenging for playoffs, if not Championships.   As he had here before the whole "move" debacle.

    @the-gipper said:

    The difference is that we then could bemoan the fact that they let to of a coach who was capable of winning a championship.  None of the string of HCs who have been here since BB can be said to be SB caliber HCs, fair to say?  Even with BB it took him at least 5 years to get another HC gig, but, when he was here, despite the consternation that had come before, the Cleveland fan base had come to see that he had high coaching competence.  it It took him getting lucky to get Brady to become a Championship coach....but without TB he at least can be seen to be a coach who would have his team competitive and challenging for playoffs, if not Championships.   As he had here before the whole "move" debacle.

    Ok gumby how were you able to get control of Gip's screen name? The way this was written has your signature all over it.😆

  • @mark-o said:

    You do realize however

    Yes, I do.  And he can't do squat with what the Harvard Think Tank lets him have.  And when / if his butt gets shown the door at season's end HIS name will be mud just like everyone else that coached under Haslam.

    @orion said:

    Yes, I do.  And he can't do squat with what the Harvard Think Tank lets him have.  And when / if his butt gets shown the door at season's end HIS name will be mud just like everyone else that coached under Haslam.

    Maybe we should start a coach's jersey, besides the QB jersey that now needs a second row.   

    @ballpeen said:

    A coach at a top college would be crazy to take a NFL job.

    The settings are usually very nice.  The perks are great....Spurrier got a Augusta membership to coach at South Carolina.  They control( to a degree) who they can bring in, and can control those guys because if their wish is to play in the NFL, they have to listen to the coach.

    Plus, they make more than the help.  It's never good when the boss is making less than his crew.

    Article is a little dated Russ, but for kicks & giggles looked up Urban Meyer's deal at Ohio State. Besides the money, must be nice to have 50 hours of private jet time to fly to Tahiti for some R&R.  https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2015/04/urban-meyer-s-new-contract-bigger-bonuses-more.html