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  • The privates offer a better product more than not.

    That's how they keep the doors open.

    what your calling inducements is actually the schools advertising their product, which is an 'opportunity' to receive a better education, training etc..

    Not always the case but again more than not.

    You mention LeBrons situation which is far from the norm. Look at Mauriice Claretts highschool 'journey'

    We are also now in the age of open enrollments which gets dicey casue publics are robbing from other publics.

    Do some students receive financial aid to attend some of these privates? Yes. But said student is still held to the same standards as any other student once enrolled. The privates have the luxury of expelling a student who is not meeting the criteria while the publics do not.

    So if you think offering a better product and advertising your product is 'recruiting' then we're at an impass.

    competitive balance now is another whole can of worms....

    @hammertime said:

    The privates offer a better product more than not.

    That's how they keep the doors open.

    what your calling inducements is actually the schools advertising their product, which is an 'opportunity' to receive a better education, training etc..

    Well...yes, they advertise their product. Sometimes they do it generally....and sometime directly....that is called "recruiting".

    Not always the case but again more than not.

    You mention LeBrons situation which is far from the norm. Look at Mauriice Claretts highschool 'journey'

    Not that familiar with it.

    We are also now in the age of open enrollments which gets dicey casue publics are robbing from other publics.

    Yes, with open enrollments....public schools have joined the ranks of recruiters.

    Do some students receive financial aid to attend some of these privates? Yes. But said student is still held to the same standards as any other student once enrolled. The privates have the luxury of expelling a student who is not meeting the criteria while the publics do not.

    And like some college students, the star athletes may major in trying not to get expelled.

    So if you think offering a better product and advertising your product is 'recruiting' then we're at an impass.

    Whether they offer a better education product...debatable. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. (Charter schools...no way, not in Ohio) St.V/M and Hoban likely offer a better education product than the Akron city schools...but not necessarily better than many suburban schools. And, again, direct advertising: personal direct contacts....offering "financial aid"....in many cases read it: "free ride" (LeBron's mom could not afford to send him to St.V/M early on.....not until they began to get the idea that they were going to get the big bucks from an agent)..you can call that advertising, and if we are at an impass it is only because you refuse to acknowledge that such things constitute recruiting. Come on Fonzie...say it: Wr....wr....wr...wr...wr....wrecruiting.

    competitive balance now is another whole can of worms....

    The worm being that those schools that recruit have an advantage in obtaining competitive superiority.

    The "balance" ..the competiveness...may come between schools that recruit: St Ig vs. St. Ed. Moeller vs. Xavier. Hoban vs. St.VM

  • They absolutely have an advantage in gaining competitive superiority. Its called a better product.

    I would like nothing better than a league of superior teams who strive for greatness in and out of the classroom.

    Its probably the only way folks are gonna be happy. Get ready though, there is gonna be like 99 differents trophies being handed out so 'little johnny' doesn't feel left out.

    Side effect of a super league is that there are no restrictions on 'recruiting' at this point since the new super league will have no affiliation with OHSSA.

  • They absolutely have an advantage in gaining competitive superiority. Its called a better product.

    I would like nothing better than a league of superior teams who strive for greatness in and out of the classroom.

    Its probably the only way folks are gonna be happy. Get ready though, there is gonna be like 99 differents trophies being handed out so 'little johnny' doesn't feel left out.

    Side effect of a super league is that there are no restrictions on 'recruiting' at this point since the new super league will have no affiliation with OHSSA.

    @hammertime said:

    They absolutely have an advantage in gaining competitive superiority. Its called a better product.

    I would like nothing better than a league of superior teams who strive for greatness in and out of the classroom.

    Its probably the only way folks are gonna be happy. Get ready though, there is gonna be like 99 differents trophies being handed out so 'little johnny' doesn't feel left out.

    Side effect of a super league is that there are no restrictions on 'recruiting' at this point since the new super league will have no affiliation with OHSSA.

    There ARE too many divisions in Ohio HS football now, no doubt. What are there 7? Used to be only 3.

    If such a "super League" as you described would be formed....then they would never be invited to play in the Ohio Tournament...and could never be called State of Ohio Champions. They could form it and just have a big circle jerk among themselves. (and as far as I am concerned...no other OHSSA school should ever schedule them)

  • the whole premise of a 'super' league is so that they wouldn't have to play with any OHSSA teams.

    Your looking at the OHSSA format if your talking circle jerk.....'super' league would be a national schedule not limited to OH.

    I know who is gonna have a better product without even playing in the OH tournament and so would everyone else.Teams like Menter, Wayne, Mason etc. would be in this 'super' league. Its not going to be just private schools.

  • the whole premise of a 'super' league is so that they wouldn't have to play with any OHSSA teams.

    Your looking at the OHSSA format if your talking circle jerk.....'super' league would be a national schedule not limited to OH.

    I know who is gonna have a better product without even playing in the OH tournament and so would everyone else.Teams like Menter, Wayne, Mason etc. would be in this 'super' league. Its not going to be just private schools.

    @hammertime said:

    the whole premise of a 'super' league is so that they wouldn't have to play with any OHSSA teams.

    Your looking at the OHSSA format if your talking circle jerk.....'super' league would be a national schedule not limited to OH.

    I know who is gonna have a better product without even playing in the OH tournament and so would everyone else.Teams like Menter, Wayne, Mason etc. would be in this 'super' league. Its not going to be just private schools.

    Then they can be like Rollerball.....just have corporate affilliated teamss...not representing anything but themselves and their own self interests.

  • @hammertime said:

    the whole premise of a 'super' league is so that they wouldn't have to play with any OHSSA teams.

    Your looking at the OHSSA format if your talking circle jerk.....'super' league would be a national schedule not limited to OH.

    I know who is gonna have a better product without even playing in the OH tournament and so would everyone else.Teams like Menter, Wayne, Mason etc. would be in this 'super' league. Its not going to be just private schools.

    Then they can be like Rollerball.....just have corporate affilliated teamss...not representing anything but themselves and their own self interests.

    @the-gipper said:

    Then they can be like Rollerball.....just have corporate affilliated teamss...not representing anything but themselves and their own self interests.

    Rollerball? Gipper were you out in the sun too long on your latest trip? 😆

  • Anyone following the 2017 HS Playoffs?  

  • Anyone following the 2017 HS Playoffs?  

    @mjp28 said:

    Anyone following the 2017 HS Playoffs?  

      Yes, had interest in a few teams:

    Wadsworth ...my kids school...lost on a missed extra point.

    Barberton and Hoban square off at Green Stadium. (many friends and extended family attended both)

    St. Vincent St. Mary  meets Canfield  (niece and nephew attended SVSM

  • And I am sure Stan is all in on Mentor vs. St. Iggy.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Anyone following the 2017 HS Playoffs?  

      Yes, had interest in a few teams:

    Wadsworth ...my kids school...lost on a missed extra point.

    Barberton and Hoban square off at Green Stadium. (many friends and extended family attended both)

    St. Vincent St. Mary  meets Canfield  (niece and nephew attended SVSM

    @the-gipper said:

      Yes, had interest in a few teams:

    Wadsworth ...my kids school...lost on a missed extra point.

    Barberton and Hoban square off at Green Stadium. (many friends and extended family attended both)

    St. Vincent St. Mary  meets Canfield  (niece and nephew attended SVSM

    I think Canfield wins that one, good team and special year......but don't all playoff teams think that.

  • @the-gipper said:

      Yes, had interest in a few teams:

    Wadsworth ...my kids school...lost on a missed extra point.

    Barberton and Hoban square off at Green Stadium. (many friends and extended family attended both)

    St. Vincent St. Mary  meets Canfield  (niece and nephew attended SVSM

    I think Canfield wins that one, good team and special year......but don't all playoff teams think that.

    @mjp28 said:

    I think Canfield wins that one, good team and special year......but don't all playoff teams think that.

    Against the might StV. St.M?  Ah....no.

  • @mjp28 said:

    I think Canfield wins that one, good team and special year......but don't all playoff teams think that.

    Against the might StV. St.M?  Ah....no.

    @the-gipper said:

    • Against the might StV. St.M?  Ah....no.

    From Jjhuddle, DIII

    New Freeman Picks (CalPreps.com)
    Bishop Hartley (Columbus, OH) vs. Tri-Valley (Dresden, OH) at Newark (OH), 7:30pm   [projection: Bishop Hartley (Columbus, OH) 34-17]
    Canfield (OH) vs. St. Vincent-St. Mary (Akron, OH) at Salem (OH), 7:30pm   [projection: Canfield (OH) 21-14]  <----- I AGREE 😉
    Central Catholic (Toledo, OH) vs. Bay (Bay Village, OH) at Sandusky (OH), 7:30pm   [projection: Central Catholic (Toledo, OH) 26-8]
    Trotwood-Madison (Trotwood, OH) vs. Chaminade-Julienne (Dayton, OH) at Stebbins (Riverside, OH), 7:30pm   [projection: Trotwood-Madison (Trotwood, OH) 48-20]

  • Thought I was going to the Barberton/Hoban game, but something came up. Should be a great game.

  • @mjp28 said:

    I think Canfield wins that one, good team and special year......but don't all playoff teams think that.

    Against the might StV. St.M?  Ah....no.

    @the-gipper said:

    Against the might StV. St.M?  Ah....no.

    Well SVSM 13-10 over now 12-1 Canfield.

    I saw the highlights and recap Canfield led 10-0 at half but SV ran the second half kickoff back for a TD but the kicker was Canfield only turned the ball over 10 times in 12 games and turned it over 4 times in that game and that was it.

    A fine season was over just like that, but that's football. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Against the might StV. St.M?  Ah....no.

    Well SVSM 13-10 over now 12-1 Canfield.

    I saw the highlights and recap Canfield led 10-0 at half but SV ran the second half kickoff back for a TD but the kicker was Canfield only turned the ball over 10 times in 12 games and turned it over 4 times in that game and that was it.

    A fine season was over just like that, but that's football. 

    @mjp28 said:

    Well SVSM 13-10 over now 12-1 Canfield.

    I saw the highlights and recap Canfield led 10-0 at half but SV ran the second half kickoff back for a TD but the kicker was Canfield only turned the ball over 10 times in 12 games and turned it over 4 times in that game and that was it.

    A fine season was over just like that, but that's football. 

    Told you.  The two Akron parochial schools, Hoban and SVSM are both in the final four in their divisions...and could both bring home titles.

    Also note:  Mentor has taken out both St. Ed and St. Ig.   Quite a feat.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Well SVSM 13-10 over now 12-1 Canfield.

    I saw the highlights and recap Canfield led 10-0 at half but SV ran the second half kickoff back for a TD but the kicker was Canfield only turned the ball over 10 times in 12 games and turned it over 4 times in that game and that was it.

    A fine season was over just like that, but that's football. 

    Told you.  The two Akron parochial schools, Hoban and SVSM are both in the final four in their divisions...and could both bring home titles.

    Also note:  Mentor has taken out both St. Ed and St. Ig.   Quite a feat.

    @the-gipper said:

    Told you.  The two Akron parochial schools, Hoban and SVSM are both in the final four in their divisions...and could both bring home titles.

    Also note:  Mentor has taken out both St. Ed and St. Ig.   Quite a feat.

    Mentor still the biggest high school in Ohio?

    My cousin graduated with more kids in her class there than my entire high school had students for all four grades, and we were/are a DII/DIII school.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Well SVSM 13-10 over now 12-1 Canfield.

    I saw the highlights and recap Canfield led 10-0 at half but SV ran the second half kickoff back for a TD but the kicker was Canfield only turned the ball over 10 times in 12 games and turned it over 4 times in that game and that was it.

    A fine season was over just like that, but that's football. 

    Told you.  The two Akron parochial schools, Hoban and SVSM are both in the final four in their divisions...and could both bring home titles.

    Also note:  Mentor has taken out both St. Ed and St. Ig.   Quite a feat.

    @the-gipper said:

    Told you.  The two Akron parochial schools, Hoban and SVSM are both in the final four in their divisions...and could both bring home titles.

    Also note:  Mentor has taken out both St. Ed and St. Ig.   Quite a feat.

    Well they beat a good Canfield team I know a lot of sports announcers and prognosticators were kind of surprised on that one.

    Who does SVSM have in front of them?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Told you.  The two Akron parochial schools, Hoban and SVSM are both in the final four in their divisions...and could both bring home titles.

    Also note:  Mentor has taken out both St. Ed and St. Ig.   Quite a feat.

    Well they beat a good Canfield team I know a lot of sports announcers and prognosticators were kind of surprised on that one.

    Who does SVSM have in front of them?

    @mjp28 said:

    Well they beat a good Canfield team I know a lot of sports announcers and prognosticators were kind of surprised on that one.

    Who does SVSM have in front of them?

    I believe they play a team that they beat at the beginning of the season already.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Told you.  The two Akron parochial schools, Hoban and SVSM are both in the final four in their divisions...and could both bring home titles.

    Also note:  Mentor has taken out both St. Ed and St. Ig.   Quite a feat.

    Well they beat a good Canfield team I know a lot of sports announcers and prognosticators were kind of surprised on that one.

    Who does SVSM have in front of them?

    @mjp28 said:

    Well they beat a good Canfield team I know a lot of sports announcers and prognosticators were kind of surprised on that one.

    Who does SVSM have in front of them?

    SVSM plays Dresden Tri Valley this week.  I think at Massillon Perry HS 

    Mentor plays Olentangy Liberty....whatever that is.  Didn't see where that was being held.

    Hoban will play Avon at Brunswick HS

    Steubenville plays Shelby at Akron U's stadium.

    Kirtland will play Nelsonville -York.   (I spent a night in Nelsonville earlier this year.)

    Cuyahoga Hts. plays Danville at Orrville HS stadium.

  • Anyone following the 2017 HS Playoffs?  

    @mjp28 said:

    Anyone following the 2017 HS Playoffs?  

    I'm following the Mentor game for obvious reasons. Hope to be heading to Canton next week.