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  • @tour2ma said:

    All will be revealed in good time....

    Can the legend continue?

    The kid from Virginia?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    The kid from Virginia?

    Leaker!!!

    I want.... NO... I DEMAND a Special Prosecutor be appointed!

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    The kid from Virginia?

    Leaker!!!

    I want.... NO... I DEMAND a Special Prosecutor be appointed!

    @tour2ma said:

    Leaker!!!

    I want.... NO... I DEMAND a Special Prosecutor be appointed!

    Never mind, everyone. That was fake news.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Leaker!!!

    I want.... NO... I DEMAND a Special Prosecutor be appointed!

    Never mind, everyone. That was fake news.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Never mind, everyone. That was fake news.

    Yeah, but the fish took the bait.😛

  • He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer

    @cainedesoulis said:

    He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer

    I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs.

  • @cainedesoulis said:

    He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer

    I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs.

    @poeticg said:

    I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs.

    Of course you think that.     Jesus dude...  Ben Hogan needs to have a restraining order out on you.  His own family doesn't love him as much as you do.

  • @cainedesoulis said:

    He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer

    I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs.

    @poeticg said:

    I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs.

    How many Pro Bowl QBs have noodle arms like Hogan does?

  • @poeticg said:

    I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs.

    How many Pro Bowl QBs have noodle arms like Hogan does?

    @dutch-oven said:

    How many Pro Bowl QBs have noodle arms like Hogan does?

    Hogan doesn't have a noodle arm. He has a cannon arm. I think you're thinking of somebody else.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    How many Pro Bowl QBs have noodle arms like Hogan does?

    Hogan doesn't have a noodle arm. He has a cannon arm. I think you're thinking of somebody else.

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan doesn't have a noodle arm. He has a cannon arm. I think you're thinking of somebody else.

    Must be his left arm... 😉

  • @poeticg said:

    Hogan doesn't have a noodle arm. He has a cannon arm. I think you're thinking of somebody else.

    Must be his left arm... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Must be his left arm... 😉

    You guys can joke and mock all you want. We've all seen the strikes he's thrown. He let a couple sail on him when he was rushed and hit while throwing, however this does not constitute a "noodle arm" as you would say. Hogan has ample arm strength to make ALL the throws required and he has the ability to stretch the field while taking deep shots. He actually has or had the longest completion down field earlier in the season, far surpassing the Kitanic...

    The cream will rise to the top. Hue can only suppress Hogan for so long. In time it will become self evident, until then carry on. 🙂

  • He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer

    @cainedesoulis said:

    He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer

    In other words, we are watching bullschidt

  • Baker Mayfield baby!

  • Hogan has ample arm strength compared to Kessler. That's about it. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Must be his left arm... 😉

    You guys can joke and mock all you want. We've all seen the strikes he's thrown. He let a couple sail on him when he was rushed and hit while throwing, however this does not constitute a "noodle arm" as you would say. Hogan has ample arm strength to make ALL the throws required and he has the ability to stretch the field while taking deep shots. He actually has or had the longest completion down field earlier in the season, far surpassing the Kitanic...

    The cream will rise to the top. Hue can only suppress Hogan for so long. In time it will become self evident, until then carry on. 🙂

    @poeticg said:

    You guys can joke and mock all you want.

    The cream will rise to the top. Hue can only suppress Hogan for so long. In time it will become self evident, until then carry on. 🙂

    Appreciate the invite and the spirit, Po...

  • What about this Manny Wilkins guy who this video says may actually be the best QB coming out?  I have heard nothing on him....there has been no run. Haven't seen him play.

    Could he be a sleeper?  Or should he be considered a big timer for the next draft?

  • Wilkins is going to need to look good for the rest of the year and possibly next year and we dont know what his High School Production was. The youtuber did not really think it was worth the time to go over that stuff just yet with Wilkins so we should see how he looks end of year. The QB's you should focus on are the ones with  90+ scores in multiple years or close

    I'd look at Baker Mayfield, Danny Etling, Eric Dungey, JT Barrett,Jake Browning,Josh Rosen,Luke Falk, Manny Wilkins,Mason Rudolph

    Unfortunately Draft Breakdown now requires a membership of 2$ a month but meh i enjoy watching the tape 😛 and look foward to looking through these guys

  • Looking at that above list Manny is very very lithe and i wonder if he will translate to the next level, Etling appears to have a subpar arm aswell, Eric Dungey looked like a late round pick that can develop, very reminiscent of watching kizers tape, appears to be more athletic and has good size 6'4" 225

  •  Here is another pretty solid video of a breakdown of our 2017 draft class, Sorry for the peppers/kizer fans

  • Wilkins is going to need to look good for the rest of the year and possibly next year and we dont know what his High School Production was. The youtuber did not really think it was worth the time to go over that stuff just yet with Wilkins so we should see how he looks end of year. The QB's you should focus on are the ones with  90+ scores in multiple years or close

    I'd look at Baker Mayfield, Danny Etling, Eric Dungey, JT Barrett,Jake Browning,Josh Rosen,Luke Falk, Manny Wilkins,Mason Rudolph

    Unfortunately Draft Breakdown now requires a membership of 2$ a month but meh i enjoy watching the tape 😛 and look foward to looking through these guys

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Wilkins is going to need to look good for the rest of the year and possibly next year and we dont know what his High School Production was. The youtuber did not really think it was worth the time to go over that stuff just yet with Wilkins so we should see how he looks end of year. The QB's you should focus on are the ones with  90+ scores in multiple years or close

    I'd look at Baker Mayfield, Danny Etling, Eric Dungey, JT Barrett,Jake Browning,Josh Rosen,Luke Falk, Manny Wilkins,Mason Rudolph

    Unfortunately Draft Breakdown now requires a membership of 2$ a month but meh i enjoy watching the tape 😛 and look foward to looking through these guys

    I note from ESPN Stats that he appears to have been a starter for 2 years.  But this video only lists one year for him..   Not sure why that is.  Here are his numbers from 2016 and so far in 2017:

    SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT RAW QBR ADJ QBR
    2017 212 334 2588 63.5 7.75 70 12 4 32 138.0 57.2 62.6
    2016 197 311 2329 63.3 7.49 71 12 9 34 133.2 48.7 47.8
    2015 0 0 0 0.0 0.00 0 0 0 0 0.0 - -

    The only real difference from this year from last year is that it seems he has reduced his interceptions....which is obviously good. Others stats show slight improvement.  Not sure why both years are not analyzed using this guys method.  (He may in fact have "multiple" years with 90+ scores...or close to it.

  •  Here is another pretty solid video of a breakdown of our 2017 draft class, Sorry for the peppers/kizer fans

    @cainedesoulis said:

     Here is another pretty solid video of a breakdown of our 2017 draft class, Sorry for the peppers/kizer fans

    This is ancient history in a sense.   We are interested in the next draft.