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  • @hoorta said:

    All of the above? BTW, that was the first time I saw that commercial via your post.   Or that people will actually pay $10 for watered down Lite at a football game? 

    Hey.. Being the wine lover you are.. Ever had Beuhler wines?.. They make the best damn Chardonnay you ever tasted..

    https://www.wineaccess.com/search/?q=buehler+wines&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_campaign=Bing_Search_Beta_Wines_USA_NapaValley&utm_term=buehler wines&utm_content=90pointaroundtheworldweb?utm_source=bing

    @nickers said:

    Hey.. Being the wine lover you are.. Ever had Beuhler wines?.. They make the best damn Chardonnay you ever tasted..

    https://www.wineaccess.com/search/?q=buehler+wines&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_campaign=Bing_Search_Beta_Wines_USA_NapaValley&utm_term=buehler wines&utm_content=90pointaroundtheworldweb?utm_source=bing

    Beuhler? I have indeed, (not for a long time though) but not their chard. I'm a huge fan of big oaky chardonnays in that style. Their cabernet was a mouthful of red, and California wine that you could age for a long time. 

    @tour2ma said:

    Had the most floral red I've ever tasted, h, in the Burgundy region. It was spectacular. Tried to find the vineyard/winery without any luck. Will post pic of label later.

    What a trip... every three-day stop... Burgundy, the south, the Loire Valley... was like a long weekend in Napa... minus the wildfires.

    Hope to make it over to Burgundy one day Tour. Many of my wine friends have made the trip and say it's memorable. 

    @roycerolls said:

    Aldi has a $4 bottle of merlot that is pretty good.

    Hey, I'm no wine snob, but maybe one day me, Tour, and Ag can swill a bottle or three out of my cellar.  I get more fun out of finding a cheapo than spending a lot on something else. I recently bought a bunch of an Italian rose that was $5 bucks on post off. Hey, it was Beaujolais Nouveau Day today, went out tasting with my pals, recommend  the Domaine Rochette $14, the Georges DuBoef was sort of watery. They were also pouring the Fleur de Pingus- (for us uppity folks)  ha it's their "second" bargain wine for the masses- a mere $95 a bottle. Regular Pingus is now on the high side of $700 bucks. Being retired, my booze budget has shrunk considerably. As I like to tell my wine class- to quote August Sebastiani- "if the first sip invites another, the wine is good." Also as I tell the kids- it's Larry's Logarithmic Law of diminishing returns. Just because a wine is ten times more expensive doesn't make it ten times better.  🙂  Unfortunately today , the very top wines have become "trophy" wines for collector millionaires with unlimited wine budgets. A bottle of Romanee Conti (DRC) Burgundy- if you're lucky enough to find one-  would set you back $10,000. For sure, not 100X better than a $100 bottle. Just remember guys, when you come right down to it- it's fermented grape juice.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Found this little wine when touring Napa one year. You don't even have to buy the upper end one since it won a double gold one year in the San F. Wine contest.

    Honig Cabernet Sauvignon. Very, very good with a fine filet or t-bone. You can read some of the reviews in the link. They are spot on.

    http://www.totalwine.com/red-wine/cabernet-sauvignon/honig-cabernet-napa/p/93908750-1?glia=true&s=510&pid=cpc:Shopping+US+TEXA+ENG+SPART:::google:&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi7XQBRDnARIsANeLIeuvYX6P5FgGVQp4xlfEjLf5-qGhnDBmeidHBxPrMuHnK1956k6wBF0aAkw-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

    I've had Honig... very nice at a middling price point... mid-30-ish IIRC. Splurged a tad more on Grgich a couple times... really good stuff. Went bonkers in Napa and bought a Grgich Reerve that was lights out... and should have been for the price.

    My everyday, high-value cab has moved to H3, a/k/a Horse Haven Hills, recently. Its current vintage is running really strong. At ~$13 a bottle it's very hard to beat.

    @tour2ma said:

    I've had Honig... very nice at a middling price point... mid-30-ish IIRC. Splurged a tad more on Grgich a couple times... really good stuff. Went bonkers in Napa and bought a Grgich Reerve that was lights out... and should have been for the price.

    My everyday, high-value cab has moved to H3, a/k/a Horse Haven Hills, recently. Its current vintage is running really strong. At ~$13 a bottle it's very hard to beat.

    Ah Grgich Hills! Got a really excellent 2001 stashed in my wine refrigerator. Took my Mom on a tasting tour there and she was just going bananas over it until I told her the cost. She asked me who in their right mind would pay that kind of money even for a wine that good. She almost choked when I told her I had just bought a bottle. Of course she was a child of the depression and always squeezed Lincoln half blind every time she let go of a penny, so there's that.😁

    I'll check out 3H. Thanks for the tip.

    EDIT: My Mom married again after my Dad passed away and lived in Cal. about an hour from Napa. They guy who owned the luxury apartment building where they lived was a retired dentist who had an extensive wine cellar. As he was showing me how his temp and humidity control systems worked I happened to look down and spotted a bottle of 1970 Lafite Rothchild. Now a fine Bordeaux like that will set you back $1000 for a very good year. But 1970 was a great year that might happen 2-4 times a century and he had kept it in ideal conditions going on 40 years at that time. Had to be close to a $10,000 bottle. Had a hard time getting my jaw back in place.

    PS-And he is the person who recommended I visit Grgich Hills while there.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I've had Honig... very nice at a middling price point... mid-30-ish IIRC. Splurged a tad more on Grgich a couple times... really good stuff. Went bonkers in Napa and bought a Grgich Reerve that was lights out... and should have been for the price.

    My everyday, high-value cab has moved to H3, a/k/a Horse Haven Hills, recently. Its current vintage is running really strong. At ~$13 a bottle it's very hard to beat.

    Ah Grgich Hills! Got a really excellent 2001 stashed in my wine refrigerator. Took my Mom on a tasting tour there and she was just going bananas over it until I told her the cost. She asked me who in their right mind would pay that kind of money even for a wine that good. She almost choked when I told her I had just bought a bottle. Of course she was a child of the depression and always squeezed Lincoln half blind every time she let go of a penny, so there's that.😁

    I'll check out 3H. Thanks for the tip.

    EDIT: My Mom married again after my Dad passed away and lived in Cal. about an hour from Napa. They guy who owned the luxury apartment building where they lived was a retired dentist who had an extensive wine cellar. As he was showing me how his temp and humidity control systems worked I happened to look down and spotted a bottle of 1970 Lafite Rothchild. Now a fine Bordeaux like that will set you back $1000 for a very good year. But 1970 was a great year that might happen 2-4 times a century and he had kept it in ideal conditions going on 40 years at that time. Had to be close to a $10,000 bottle. Had a hard time getting my jaw back in place.

    PS-And he is the person who recommended I visit Grgich Hills while there.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ah Grgich Hills! Got a really excellent 2001 stashed in my wine refrigerator. Took my Mom on a tasting tour there and she was just going bananas over it until I told her the cost. She asked me who in their right mind would pay that kind of money even for a wine that good. She almost choked when I told her I had just bought a bottle. Of course she was a child of the depression and always squeezed Lincoln half blind every time she let go of a penny, so there's that.😁

    I'll check out 3H. Thanks for the tip.

    I'll ditto what Tour said about the H3. Horse Heaven Hills. A bunch of Washington State wines are great values. Columbia Crest is a great bang for the buck. Sadly, Chateau St. Michelle downgraded the Indian Wells Vineyard merlot to just "Indian Wells" not the same stuff, and a step down, though it's still pretty good wine. Regarding Grgich, on my one trip to Napa, who walks in the tasting room but Mike Grgich. Everyone in the room started grabbing bottles and asked him to autograph them. I still have an empty in my memorabilia collection in the cellar. 🙂  

    For you non-winos, it would be the equivalent of LeBron walking into the team shop.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Ah Grgich Hills! Got a really excellent 2001 stashed in my wine refrigerator. Took my Mom on a tasting tour there and she was just going bananas over it until I told her the cost. She asked me who in their right mind would pay that kind of money even for a wine that good. She almost choked when I told her I had just bought a bottle. Of course she was a child of the depression and always squeezed Lincoln half blind every time she let go of a penny, so there's that.😁

    I'll check out 3H. Thanks for the tip.

    I'll ditto what Tour said about the H3. Horse Heaven Hills. A bunch of Washington State wines are great values. Columbia Crest is a great bang for the buck. Sadly, Chateau St. Michelle downgraded the Indian Wells Vineyard merlot to just "Indian Wells" not the same stuff, and a step down, though it's still pretty good wine. Regarding Grgich, on my one trip to Napa, who walks in the tasting room but Mike Grgich. Everyone in the room started grabbing bottles and asked him to autograph them. I still have an empty in my memorabilia collection in the cellar. 🙂  

    For you non-winos, it would be the equivalent of LeBron walking into the team shop.  

    @hoorta said:

    I'll ditto what Tour said about the H3. Horse Heaven Hills. A bunch of Washington State wines are great values. Columbia Crest is a great bang for the buck. Sadly, Chateau St. Michelle downgraded the Indian Wells Vineyard merlot to just "Indian Wells" not the same stuff, and a step down, though it's still pretty good wine. Regarding Grgich, on my one trip to Napa, who walks in the tasting room but Mike Grgich. Everyone in the room started grabbing bottles and asked him to autograph them. I still have an empty in my memorabilia collection in the cellar. 🙂  

    I didn't have sense enough to get him to autograph the bottle he sold me. But he did spend time with my Mom telling her about the history of his vineyard. Nice guy.

    Larry I edited my prior post with a little sidenote.

  • @hoorta said:

    I'll ditto what Tour said about the H3. Horse Heaven Hills. A bunch of Washington State wines are great values. Columbia Crest is a great bang for the buck. Sadly, Chateau St. Michelle downgraded the Indian Wells Vineyard merlot to just "Indian Wells" not the same stuff, and a step down, though it's still pretty good wine. Regarding Grgich, on my one trip to Napa, who walks in the tasting room but Mike Grgich. Everyone in the room started grabbing bottles and asked him to autograph them. I still have an empty in my memorabilia collection in the cellar. 🙂  

    I didn't have sense enough to get him to autograph the bottle he sold me. But he did spend time with my Mom telling her about the history of his vineyard. Nice guy.

    Larry I edited my prior post with a little sidenote.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I didn't have sense enough to get him to autograph the bottle he sold me. But he did spend time with my Mom telling her about the history of his vineyard. Nice guy.

    Larry I edited my prior post with a little sidenote.

    & I'll edit my original post.  🙂  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I didn't have sense enough to get him to autograph the bottle he sold me. But he did spend time with my Mom telling her about the history of his vineyard. Nice guy.

    Larry I edited my prior post with a little sidenote.

    & I'll edit my original post.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    & I'll edit my original post.  🙂  

    Dilly Dilly!😁

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Found this little wine when touring Napa one year. You don't even have to buy the upper end one since it won a double gold one year in the San F. Wine contest.

    Honig Cabernet Sauvignon. Very, very good with a fine filet or t-bone. You can read some of the reviews in the link. They are spot on.

    http://www.totalwine.com/red-wine/cabernet-sauvignon/honig-cabernet-napa/p/93908750-1?glia=true&s=510&pid=cpc:Shopping+US+TEXA+ENG+SPART:::google:&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi7XQBRDnARIsANeLIeuvYX6P5FgGVQp4xlfEjLf5-qGhnDBmeidHBxPrMuHnK1956k6wBF0aAkw-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

    I've had Honig... very nice at a middling price point... mid-30-ish IIRC. Splurged a tad more on Grgich a couple times... really good stuff. Went bonkers in Napa and bought a Grgich Reerve that was lights out... and should have been for the price.

    My everyday, high-value cab has moved to H3, a/k/a Horse Haven Hills, recently. Its current vintage is running really strong. At ~$13 a bottle it's very hard to beat.

    @tour2ma said:

    I've had Honig... very nice at a middling price point... mid-30-ish IIRC. Splurged a tad more on Grgich a couple times... really good stuff. Went bonkers in Napa and bought a Grgich Reerve that was lights out... and should have been for the price.

    My everyday, high-value cab has moved to H3, a/k/a Horse Haven Hills, recently. Its current vintage is running really strong. At ~$13 a bottle it's very hard to beat.

    One of My fave Cabs is Black Opal,, Also.. I ran into a Merlot at Giant Eagle called Dracula,, it was only 4 bucks and it was quite good...

  • Excellent penmanship for that kid!!

  • I'm going to borrow a corner of WSS' Movie section for wine thread...

    EDIT: ... and done....

    /topic/48494

  • Found this little wine when touring Napa one year. You don't even have to buy the upper end one since it won a double gold one year in the San F. Wine contest.

    Honig Cabernet Sauvignon. Very, very good with a fine filet or t-bone. You can read some of the reviews in the link. They are spot on.

    http://www.totalwine.com/red-wine/cabernet-sauvignon/honig-cabernet-napa/p/93908750-1?glia=true&s=510&pid=cpc:Shopping+US+TEXA+ENG+SPART:::google:&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi7XQBRDnARIsANeLIeuvYX6P5FgGVQp4xlfEjLf5-qGhnDBmeidHBxPrMuHnK1956k6wBF0aAkw-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

    @texasag1969 said:

    Found this little wine when touring Napa one year. You don't even have to buy the upper end one since it won a double gold one year in the San F. Wine contest.

    Honig Cabernet Sauvignon. Very, very good with a fine filet or t-bone. You can read some of the reviews in the link. They are spot on.

    http://www.totalwine.com/red-wine/cabernet-sauvignon/honig-cabernet-napa/p/93908750-1?glia=true&s=510&pid=cpc:Shopping+US+TEXA+ENG+SPART:::google:&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi7XQBRDnARIsANeLIeuvYX6P5FgGVQp4xlfEjLf5-qGhnDBmeidHBxPrMuHnK1956k6wBF0aAkw-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

    I will be spending a week next spring in Napa.   Have to revisit this stuff once we get closer to that time.

  • What were the chances that the two guys in Texas who drink wine ended up on the same message board? 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    What were the chances that the two guys in Texas who drink wine ended up on the same message board? 😆

    Check out the Barber Shop.   I think I put a thread in there about wine growing regions.  If not....I will just tell you that the Texas Hill Country may be considered one of the Top Ten Wine producing regions in the country.  In no particular order:

    Napa/Sonoma of course.

    Central coast of CA  (down toward  Santa Barbara)

    Washington Columbia Valley

    Oregon Willamette Valley

    The Finger Lakes,  New York

    Ohio, along Lake Erie

    Central Virginia

    Missouri Rhineland (Central Mizz)

    Shawnee Hills, Illinois

    Texas Hill Country

    Perhaps Hoorta can verify this.....or maybe he can disavow it.  But I think this is fairly accurate. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    What were the chances that the two guys in Texas who drink wine ended up on the same message board? 😆

    Check out the Barber Shop.   I think I put a thread in there about wine growing regions.  If not....I will just tell you that the Texas Hill Country may be considered one of the Top Ten Wine producing regions in the country.  In no particular order:

    Napa/Sonoma of course.

    Central coast of CA  (down toward  Santa Barbara)

    Washington Columbia Valley

    Oregon Willamette Valley

    The Finger Lakes,  New York

    Ohio, along Lake Erie

    Central Virginia

    Missouri Rhineland (Central Mizz)

    Shawnee Hills, Illinois

    Texas Hill Country

    Perhaps Hoorta can verify this.....or maybe he can disavow it.  But I think this is fairly accurate. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Check out the Barber Shop.   I think I put a thread in there about wine growing regions.  If not....I will just tell you that the Texas Hill Country may be considered one of the Top Ten Wine producing regions in the country.  In no particular order:

    Napa/Sonoma of course.

    Central coast of CA  (down toward  Santa Barbara)

    Washington Columbia Valley

    Oregon Willamette Valley

    The Finger Lakes,  New York

    Ohio, along Lake Erie

    Central Virginia

    Missouri Rhineland (Central Mizz)

    Shawnee Hills, Illinois

    Texas Hill Country

    Perhaps Hoorta can verify this.....or maybe he can disavow it.  But I think this is fairly accurate. 

    If you're talking production, probably accurate. I've said for a long time Washington has the potential to surpass Napa. They grow great fruit there, Ranier cherries and apples. And grapes LOL. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Check out the Barber Shop.   I think I put a thread in there about wine growing regions.  If not....I will just tell you that the Texas Hill Country may be considered one of the Top Ten Wine producing regions in the country.  In no particular order:

    Napa/Sonoma of course.

    Central coast of CA  (down toward  Santa Barbara)

    Washington Columbia Valley

    Oregon Willamette Valley

    The Finger Lakes,  New York

    Ohio, along Lake Erie

    Central Virginia

    Missouri Rhineland (Central Mizz)

    Shawnee Hills, Illinois

    Texas Hill Country

    Perhaps Hoorta can verify this.....or maybe he can disavow it.  But I think this is fairly accurate. 

    If you're talking production, probably accurate. I've said for a long time Washington has the potential to surpass Napa. They grow great fruit there, Ranier cherries and apples. And grapes LOL. 

    @hoorta said:

    If you're talking production, probably accurate. I've said for a long time Washington has the potential to surpass Napa. They grow great fruit there, Ranier cherries and apples. And grapes LOL. 

    Well....I mean.....yes there is a  difference between quality and quantity.  I assume for an area to be listed in the "Top Ten Wine producing areas"  that there would have to be a bit of both.   What is your view on the "quality" issue amongst wine growing regions?

  • @hoorta said:

    If you're talking production, probably accurate. I've said for a long time Washington has the potential to surpass Napa. They grow great fruit there, Ranier cherries and apples. And grapes LOL. 

    Well....I mean.....yes there is a  difference between quality and quantity.  I assume for an area to be listed in the "Top Ten Wine producing areas"  that there would have to be a bit of both.   What is your view on the "quality" issue amongst wine growing regions?

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....I mean.....yes there is a  difference between quality and quantity.  I assume for an area to be listed in the "Top Ten Wine producing areas"  that there would have to be a bit of both.   What is your view on the "quality" issue amongst wine growing regions?

    Probably in the order you listed, Might move Texas up a couple of spots. The bottom 4 have little availability in Ohio. I'd suppose the same would be true of Ohio wines outside of Ohio. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Found this little wine when touring Napa one year. You don't even have to buy the upper end one since it won a double gold one year in the San F. Wine contest.

    Honig Cabernet Sauvignon. Very, very good with a fine filet or t-bone. You can read some of the reviews in the link. They are spot on.

    http://www.totalwine.com/red-wine/cabernet-sauvignon/honig-cabernet-napa/p/93908750-1?glia=true&s=510&pid=cpc:Shopping+US+TEXA+ENG+SPART:::google:&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi7XQBRDnARIsANeLIeuvYX6P5FgGVQp4xlfEjLf5-qGhnDBmeidHBxPrMuHnK1956k6wBF0aAkw-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

    I will be spending a week next spring in Napa.   Have to revisit this stuff once we get closer to that time.

    @the-gipper said:

    I will be spending a week next spring in Napa.   Have to revisit this stuff once we get closer to that time.

    Download the last SF Competition and select a few to visit while there. Here are the Cab double golds, but you can go to any varietal and play with the website.

    http://sfwinecomp.com/results/browse

    EDIT: Go to "class" and it scrolls to reds, whites, etc, and under each are the varietals where you find the Cabs (or any other)..

    EDIT #2: Now some did not even enter this year like Honig and Vine Cliff - both of which are in NAPA and both worth a visit for a taste.

    A hidden jewel in Amador county E of Folsom is Deaver Vineyards who have excellent Zins, Ports and a really good Petite Sirah-bought a case there a few years back and have 3 left.

  • Big Ben Rapistberger now using “Dilly Dilly” in his cadence. . .

    http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article185173258.html

  • @dutch-oven said:

    What were the chances that the two guys in Texas who drink wine ended up on the same message board? 😆

    Check out the Barber Shop.   I think I put a thread in there about wine growing regions.  If not....I will just tell you that the Texas Hill Country may be considered one of the Top Ten Wine producing regions in the country.  In no particular order:

    Napa/Sonoma of course.

    Central coast of CA  (down toward  Santa Barbara)

    Washington Columbia Valley

    Oregon Willamette Valley

    The Finger Lakes,  New York

    Ohio, along Lake Erie

    Central Virginia

    Missouri Rhineland (Central Mizz)

    Shawnee Hills, Illinois

    Texas Hill Country

    Perhaps Hoorta can verify this.....or maybe he can disavow it.  But I think this is fairly accurate. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Check out the Barber Shop.   I think I put a thread in there about wine growing regions.  If not....I will just tell you that the Texas Hill Country may be considered one of the Top Ten Wine producing regions in the country.  In no particular order:

    Napa/Sonoma of course.

    Central coast of CA  (down toward  Santa Barbara)

    Washington Columbia Valley

    Oregon Willamette Valley

    The Finger Lakes,  New York

    Ohio, along Lake Erie

    Central Virginia

    Missouri Rhineland (Central Mizz)

    Shawnee Hills, Illinois

    Texas Hill Country

    Perhaps Hoorta can verify this.....or maybe he can disavow it.  But I think this is fairly accurate. 

    Michigan also should be up there.. Mich and Ohio are famous for concord grapes.. I grew up in a house that was a grape storage house over 100 years ago in Euclid.. we still had concord grape vines growing over the fence.. But I never risked eating them because Linderme Tube Factory plant was behind our house and street... And they kept dumping oil and chemicals in the woods behind the fence... Linderme Tube is now a defunct plant..

  • @the-gipper said:

    Check out the Barber Shop.   I think I put a thread in there about wine growing regions.  If not....I will just tell you that the Texas Hill Country may be considered one of the Top Ten Wine producing regions in the country.  In no particular order:

    Napa/Sonoma of course.

    Central coast of CA  (down toward  Santa Barbara)

    Washington Columbia Valley

    Oregon Willamette Valley

    The Finger Lakes,  New York

    Ohio, along Lake Erie

    Central Virginia

    Missouri Rhineland (Central Mizz)

    Shawnee Hills, Illinois

    Texas Hill Country

    Perhaps Hoorta can verify this.....or maybe he can disavow it.  But I think this is fairly accurate. 

    Michigan also should be up there.. Mich and Ohio are famous for concord grapes.. I grew up in a house that was a grape storage house over 100 years ago in Euclid.. we still had concord grape vines growing over the fence.. But I never risked eating them because Linderme Tube Factory plant was behind our house and street... And they kept dumping oil and chemicals in the woods behind the fence... Linderme Tube is now a defunct plant..

    @nickers said:

    Michigan also should be up there.. Mich and Ohio are famous for concord grapes.. I grew up in a house that was a grape storage house over 100 years ago in Euclid.. we still had concord grape vines growing over the fence.. But I never risked eating them because Linderme Tube Factory plant was behind our house and street... And they kept dumping oil and chemicals in the woods behind the fence... Linderme Tube is now a defunct plant..

    Actually, I believe Michigan is more well known for their Cherry Wines from up around the Traverse City region.  Again....defer to our expert: Hoorta.

  • Perfect wine that fits the Browns' fan's budget trying to cope with every week's disaster.

    It's a fine little wine with subtle hints of blackberry pie, raspberry liquor and the deep fruity flavor of the finest Merlot from price competitor.....................................Mogen David. 

    Yep, I'm talking a less than $6 a bottle of Wild Vines Blackberry Merlot. Even  your sweet tooth spouse can join you in the Pit of Misery. And the price is so low you can treat yourself to a  consolation steak grilled on the Barbie or, if she's gone for the weekend, just consolation from Barbie.Wine snobs need not apply.😆😆

  • ummmm.... 😵