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  • @the-gipper said:

    Yea, because Stanford is just such a bad college.

    NOT.   (probably actually the best combination of academics and athletics in the nation)

    Stanford's Medical School is considered second only to Harvard's. & Sometimes you can't tell a book by it's cover. We had this doc at a place I worked at, if the first time you'd meet him, you'd think "what a goober." Over the course of several months, from my coworkers found out. He went to Stanford Medical School- okayyyyy. He got a full free ride to Stanford Medical School. Say what? He had the highest score in the country on the MCATs. Makes sense now. 

    @hoorta said:

    Stanford's Medical School is considered second only to Harvard's. & Sometimes you can't tell a book by it's cover. We had this doc at a place I worked at, if the first time you'd meet him, you'd think "what a goober." Over the course of several months, from my coworkers found out. He went to Stanford Medical School- okayyyyy. He got a full free ride to Stanford Medical School. Say what? He had the highest score in the country on the MCATs. Makes sense now. 

    I don't know about anyone else.. But I have always viewed Book Smarts and Common sense ,, as two completely different types of intelligences

  • @hoorta said:

    Colts aren't giving Luck away. Beware damaged goods. Cost = a couple firsts. No thanks.

    Well, you know that Sashi has the reputation of wanting to "win every deal".  Allegedly that is why the Pats would not deal with him for Garypolo.  (though I doubt that is the real reason). But if it is....
    Sashi would play hardball.   (but then, Sachi may be in no position to play at all, if he is thrown out on his can.)

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, you know that Sashi has the reputation of wanting to "win every deal".  Allegedly that is why the Pats would not deal with him for Garypolo.  (though I doubt that is the real reason). But if it is....
    Sashi would play hardball.   (but then, Sachi may be in no position to play at all, if he is thrown out on his can.)

    Sashi is a lawyer, of couese he's trying to win every deal or argument to a T. This could be good (and bad)

  • @hoorta said:

    Stanford's Medical School is considered second only to Harvard's. & Sometimes you can't tell a book by it's cover. We had this doc at a place I worked at, if the first time you'd meet him, you'd think "what a goober." Over the course of several months, from my coworkers found out. He went to Stanford Medical School- okayyyyy. He got a full free ride to Stanford Medical School. Say what? He had the highest score in the country on the MCATs. Makes sense now. 

    I don't know about anyone else.. But I have always viewed Book Smarts and Common sense ,, as two completely different types of intelligences

    @nickers said:

    I don't know about anyone else.. But I have always viewed Book Smarts and Common sense ,, as two completely different types of intelligences

    They are... but they are also not mutually exclusive.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yea, because Stanford is just such a bad college.

    NOT.   (probably actually the best combination of academics and athletics in the nation)

    Stanford's Medical School is considered second only to Harvard's. & Sometimes you can't tell a book by it's cover. We had this doc at a place I worked at, if the first time you'd meet him, you'd think "what a goober." Over the course of several months, from my coworkers found out. He went to Stanford Medical School- okayyyyy. He got a full free ride to Stanford Medical School. Say what? He had the highest score in the country on the MCATs. Makes sense now. 

    @hoorta said:

    Stanford's Medical School is considered second only to Harvard's. & Sometimes you can't tell a book by it's cover. We had this doc at a place I worked at, if the first time you'd meet him, you'd think "what a goober." Over the course of several months, from my coworkers found out. He went to Stanford Medical School- okayyyyy. He got a full free ride to Stanford Medical School. Say what? He had the highest score in the country on the MCATs. Makes sense now. 

    Johns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then HarvardJohns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then Harvard

  • @hoorta said:

    Stanford's Medical School is considered second only to Harvard's. & Sometimes you can't tell a book by it's cover. We had this doc at a place I worked at, if the first time you'd meet him, you'd think "what a goober." Over the course of several months, from my coworkers found out. He went to Stanford Medical School- okayyyyy. He got a full free ride to Stanford Medical School. Say what? He had the highest score in the country on the MCATs. Makes sense now. 

    Johns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then HarvardJohns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then Harvard

    @the-gipper said:

    Johns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then HarvardJohns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then Harvard

    I would also add that Case Western Reserve is nothing to sneeze at either.. it's become a Doctor factory...

  • C - W - R - UUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...

    Go Spartans!

    They are the Spartans... aren't they? 😉

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    Go Spartans!

    They are the Spartans... aren't they? 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    C - W - R - UUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...

    Go Spartans!

    They are the Spartans... aren't they? 😉

    I believe they get the pleasure of losing to Mount Union next week in Round 2 of the DIII playoffs.

    There's worse fates than being a Case student. You get to go to a world-class university that sits next to Little Italy. Study while eating like a king. 😆

  • Medicine is just like everything else. There are some really good surgeons who come from really good schools and there are some really bad surgeons who come from really good surgeons and vice versa. That's why it's always important to ask local OR nurses who should operate on you. That's just a medical sidebar. 

    Andrew Luck is a tough case study, IMOP. He still is really good assuming his shoulder is healthy and ready to go. However, it seems odd to me that he is seeking alternative medicine, more than likely he is looking for a PRP with stem cell injection which is legal over in Europe but not approved by the FDA here in the states, rather than to have a shoulder scope to actually see what the issue could be. I would be very cautious if I were the browns. Full medicals would have to be given to me before I even make a trade offer. Let's not forget, he just signed a massive contract extension just last year. That's a lot of money and hope to put on a potentially bad shoulder. Now, if it is good to go and their medical team feels he is safe and able to perform at a high level, than I think you have to trust them. But, this could be a high risk situation. 

  • Medicine is just like everything else. There are some really good surgeons who come from really good schools and there are some really bad surgeons who come from really good surgeons and vice versa. That's why it's always important to ask local OR nurses who should operate on you. That's just a medical sidebar. 

    Andrew Luck is a tough case study, IMOP. He still is really good assuming his shoulder is healthy and ready to go. However, it seems odd to me that he is seeking alternative medicine, more than likely he is looking for a PRP with stem cell injection which is legal over in Europe but not approved by the FDA here in the states, rather than to have a shoulder scope to actually see what the issue could be. I would be very cautious if I were the browns. Full medicals would have to be given to me before I even make a trade offer. Let's not forget, he just signed a massive contract extension just last year. That's a lot of money and hope to put on a potentially bad shoulder. Now, if it is good to go and their medical team feels he is safe and able to perform at a high level, than I think you have to trust them. But, this could be a high risk situation. 

    @bigalow80 said:

    He still is really good assuming his shoulder is healthy and ready to go. 

    That assumption is doing a lot of heavy lifting.. I think his career is finished thanks to the Ole OL he's had in Indy.

  • @tour2ma said:

    C - W - R - UUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...

    Go Spartans!

    They are the Spartans... aren't they? 😉

    I believe they get the pleasure of losing to Mount Union next week in Round 2 of the DIII playoffs.

    There's worse fates than being a Case student. You get to go to a world-class university that sits next to Little Italy. Study while eating like a king. 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    I believe they get the pleasure of losing to Mount Union next week in Round 2 of the DIII playoffs.

    There's worse fates than being a Case student. You get to go to a world-class university that sits next to Little Italy. Study while eating like a king. 😆

    Having been a Casey in the 70's I know of what you speak...

    Many was the Sunday 2AM walk from Howe House on the lower quad down Murray Hill Road to Pretti's Bakery. That was the time the Italian loaves began exiting the ovens. Always bought an extra for the walk back.

    Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I believe they get the pleasure of losing to Mount Union next week in Round 2 of the DIII playoffs.

    There's worse fates than being a Case student. You get to go to a world-class university that sits next to Little Italy. Study while eating like a king. 😆

    Having been a Casey in the 70's I know of what you speak...

    Many was the Sunday 2AM walk from Howe House on the lower quad down Murray Hill Road to Pretti's Bakery. That was the time the Italian loaves began exiting the ovens. Always bought an extra for the walk back.

    Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area.

    @tour2ma said:

    Having been a Casey in the 70's I know of what you speak...

    Many was the Sunday 2AM walk from Howe House on the lower quad down Murray Hill Road to Pretti's Bakery. That was the time the Italian loaves began exiting the ovens. Always bought an extra for the walk back.

    Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area.

    I can imagine Murray Hill in the 70s was definitely colorful! Especially considering the on-going Danny Greene situation going on at the time.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Having been a Casey in the 70's I know of what you speak...

    Many was the Sunday 2AM walk from Howe House on the lower quad down Murray Hill Road to Pretti's Bakery. That was the time the Italian loaves began exiting the ovens. Always bought an extra for the walk back.

    Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area.

    I can imagine Murray Hill in the 70s was definitely colorful! Especially considering the on-going Danny Greene situation going on at the time.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I can imagine Murray Hill in the 70s was definitely colorful! Especially considering the on-going Danny Greene situation going on at the time.

    I knew a couple of guys that knew Danny personally, no kidding! Quite an "interesting" and fun guy.

    I did not know him.....at all.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I believe they get the pleasure of losing to Mount Union next week in Round 2 of the DIII playoffs.

    There's worse fates than being a Case student. You get to go to a world-class university that sits next to Little Italy. Study while eating like a king. 😆

    Having been a Casey in the 70's I know of what you speak...

    Many was the Sunday 2AM walk from Howe House on the lower quad down Murray Hill Road to Pretti's Bakery. That was the time the Italian loaves began exiting the ovens. Always bought an extra for the walk back.

    Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area.

    @tour2ma said:

    Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area.

    I don't care what ethnic they were- the inference was they were heavily armed.  🙂   BTW I heard reports that certain ethnic folks- back in the race riot days of the 60s there were a few machine gun posts up on the hill- no problems were reported.   

  • I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career. 

  • Get Luck and sit him for a year.  He's the best QB in the AFC in 2 years.  He's more talented than Kirk Cousins who's the next top paid QB.

  • I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career. 

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career. 

    Ditto... minus the rotor, cart and spurs...

    Arthroscopic surgery bought me several comfortable couch potato years.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career. 

    Ditto... minus the rotor, cart and spurs...

    Arthroscopic surgery bought me several comfortable couch potato years.

    @tour2ma said:

    Ditto... minus the rotor, cart and spurs...

    Arthroscopic surgery bought me several comfortable couch potato years.

    I got the scope and fileted. And it helped a whole lot. But it never came back like before the injury. I've seen a few baseball pitchers hang it up after a labrum tear and Luck has it to. He most likely will need to relearn a throwing motion very different from what he used to do. He has a tough road ahead of him career wise.  He should take up ....drone racing!!!...lol

  • Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble.  Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out.

  • Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble.  Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble.  Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out.

    Wait, I'm confused... Are you saying the Browns should trade for Luck AND take a QB #1 overall?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I can imagine Murray Hill in the 70s was definitely colorful! Especially considering the on-going Danny Greene situation going on at the time.

    I knew a couple of guys that knew Danny personally, no kidding! Quite an "interesting" and fun guy.

    I did not know him.....at all.  

    @mjp28 said:

    I knew a couple of guys that knew Danny personally, no kidding! Quite an "interesting" and fun guy.

    I did not know him.....at all.  

    I knew some guys that knew Danny Green as well.   They liked him.  They said Danny Green was The Bomb.   (err, or was that Danny Green was going to be bombed?)   Well....one or the other.  Can't recall specifically right now.