Brian Robiskie at camp
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@shepwrite said:
It was actually his speed that generated his rise, because all the rest -- great route runner, consistent hands, smart, disciplined -- was already known. When he ran sub 4.5s over and over, and looked great at the Combine, it was clear he was also a ballah.I don't know Shep. I don't think he's ever run sub 4.5's. He only ran a 4.59 at the combine. Those are not numbers that are going to make you rise.
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Just running in the 4.5's was a big win for Robiskie. His 40 time at the Combine ranged between 4.48 and 4.59, and he was clocked somewhere between 4.52 and 4.54 at OSU's pro day.
His 3-cone (6.72) and short shuttle (4.19) times were excellent for a receiver his size, and multiple reports said that his performance during position drills at the Combine was the best of any receiver there.
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Just running in the 4.5's was a big win for Robiskie. His 40 time at the Combine ranged between 4.48 and 4.59, and he was clocked somewhere between 4.52 and 4.54 at OSU's pro day.
His 3-cone (6.72) and short shuttle (4.19) times were excellent for a receiver his size, and multiple reports said that his performance during position drills at the Combine was the best of any receiver there.
Aloysius said:
Just running in the 4.5's was a big win for Robiskie. His 40 time at the Combine ranged between 4.48 and 4.59, and he was clocked somewhere between 4.52 and 4.54 at OSU's pro day.His 3-cone (6.72) and short shuttle (4.19) times were excellent for a receiver his size, and multiple reports said that his performance during position drills at the Combine was the best of any receiver there.
I suppose you could say it was a big win for him as it solidified his spot as a round 2 guy..... But it's what was expected.
His 40 times coming to OSU was at the 4.5 range and I don't think they expected much less than that at the combine.
If his final official time at the combine would have been sub 4.5 then that really would've been a huge win for him as teams may have made him a first rounder. But the 40 times he averaged were as expected so he was drafted about where he was expected to go.
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@shepwrite said:
I was watching NFL net during the Combine and they said Robiskie was a riser because he ran very well (in the 4.5 range, they may have said), was fantastic in position drills, caught everything, and killed the cones, etc.Specifically, I remember him running a sub 4.5 and getting hyped for it... but maybe that was unofficial?
Sounds like the sting of no J.J. will not be so bad this year. Man Robiskie is going to be a best in the red zone!
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@shepwrite said:
I was watching NFL net during the Combine and they said Robiskie was a riser because he ran very well (in the 4.5 range, they may have said), was fantastic in position drills, caught everything, and killed the cones, etc.Specifically, I remember him running a sub 4.5 and getting hyped for it... but maybe that was unofficial?
I think it was mostly what you mentioned earlier Shep. He looked so much more polished that the other WR's at routes, catching the ball, etc. At least that is what I heard and read the most about.
It was funny because he was rated a #1 had he come out his junior year. Then well before the combines a lot of mocks had him going as late a the late 3rd round. But after the combine he was back up to a mid to high second round pick.
But I doubt he was ever considered a late 3rd rounder by NFL teams. The kid is just too smart and too polished for that late in the draft. I think a lot of the media thought he was a late 3rd rounder because of his drop off in numbers and minor injury.
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@shepwrite said:
I was watching NFL net during the Combine and they said Robiskie was a riser because he ran very well (in the 4.5 range, they may have said), was fantastic in position drills, caught everything, and killed the cones, etc.Specifically, I remember him running a sub 4.5 and getting hyped for it... but maybe that was unofficial?
Sounds like the sting of no J.J. will not be so bad this year. Man Robiskie is going to be a best in the red zone!
AdaM said:
Sounds like the sting of no J.J. will not be so bad this year. Man Robiskie is going to be a best in the red zone!I agree! I think that could end up being his forte. He's very physical with small corners. Most teams will still want to put their biggest and hopefully best corner on Edwards. This will allow Robiskie to exploit the smaller less talented ones.
It's what happened in Minnesota after Moss got there. They put the biggest and best corner on Moss and it allowed Cris Carter to have big TD grabs.
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keep in mind running a 4.5 is not slow.
how many of these 4.3 or 4.4 guys actually maintain that speed throughout their careers?
a guy who can maintain a 4.5 for years is the wr people clamour over. catching is paramount also.
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Being able to fake and cut is more important than speed unless you are flat out slow.
OK...so the guy might not take it to the house in a footrace. So he catches it 14 yards downfileld and manages to tack on 10 more...I am good with that.
I wish more receivers worked on turning the DB around than simply try to run faster.
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Being able to fake and cut is more important than speed unless you are flat out slow.
OK...so the guy might not take it to the house in a footrace. So he catches it 14 yards downfileld and manages to tack on 10 more...I am good with that.
I wish more receivers worked on turning the DB around than simply try to run faster.
Being able to fake and cut is more important than speed unless you are flat out slow.
OK...so the guy might not take it to the house in a footrace. So he catches it 14 yards downfileld and manages to tack on 10 more...I am good with that.
I wish more receivers worked on turning the DB around than simply try to run faster.
I'm not sold on big top end speed either. The only time it really comes into play is if you are wanting to seperate in a straight go pattern.
If I've read "May not have the seperation speed" once, I've read it a thousand times. We all know many great ones that didn't have great 40 times. The greatest ever, Jerry Rice.
But the NFL does seem put quite a bit of stock into the 40. I think too much.
Route running and catching the ball is more important.
I wish I could've learned what he was clocked at at 10 and 20 yards as well. I don't remember seeing that at the combine. If someone knows maybe they can let us know.
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Here's a nice little tidbit from an interview of Ravens director of player personnel Eric DeCosta:
"We had two, maybe three receivers we liked in the first round but didn’t like the ones available at our pick. We loved Robiskie in Round 2 but the Browns got him before we could. You can’t take your 120th ranked player in Round 3 just to fill a need especially if that player isn’t as good as Marcus Smith."
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Steelers fans have owned up to Robiskie's potential: http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=36107
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Being able to fake and cut is more important than speed unless you are flat out slow.
OK...so the guy might not take it to the house in a footrace. So he catches it 14 yards downfileld and manages to tack on 10 more...I am good with that.
I wish more receivers worked on turning the DB around than simply try to run faster.
I'm not sold on big top end speed either. The only time it really comes into play is if you are wanting to seperate in a straight go pattern.
If I've read "May not have the seperation speed" once, I've read it a thousand times. We all know many great ones that didn't have great 40 times. The greatest ever, Jerry Rice.
But the NFL does seem put quite a bit of stock into the 40. I think too much.
Route running and catching the ball is more important.
I wish I could've learned what he was clocked at at 10 and 20 yards as well. I don't remember seeing that at the combine. If someone knows maybe they can let us know.
I'm not sold on big top end speed either. The only time it really comes into play is if you are wanting to seperate in a straight go pattern.
If I've read "May not have the seperation speed" once, I've read it a thousand times. We all know many great ones that didn't have great 40 times. The greatest ever, Jerry Rice.
But the NFL does seem put quite a bit of stock into the 40. I think too much.
Route running and catching the ball is more important.
I wish I could've learned what he was clocked at at 10 and 20 yards as well. I don't remember seeing that at the combine. If someone knows maybe they can let us know.
I just wonder how long it will be before opposing Def. Coords. decide they are having to cover two #1s when they play the Browns.
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All I know is that in the Fiesta Bowl, my Longhorns couldn't stop the dude. He was one of my favorite college players.
All I know is that in the Fiesta Bowl, my Longhorns couldn't stop the dude. He was one of my favorite college players.
Besides having a new QB that didn't throw the ball as well as Boeckman did, Robo's number's also suffered due to being dinged during the year as well.
I think he was finally completely healthy for the Fiesta Bowl and it showed.
He's going to be a very good NFL WR. I think he has the potential to be a #1 just as neighbor mentioned.
I'm excited about Edwards, Furrey and Robiskie being the main guys on three WR sets. With Cribbs, MoMass and Patten adding depth.
What a huge improvement from last year's WR corps!
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