***Official Browns @ Bengals Game Day Thread***
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I think last week did a number on me. Having every chance to win a game and punting over and over again. Like you said...wait and see.
I think last week did a number on me. Having every chance to win a game and punting over and over again. Like you said...wait and see.
Well, we still can have a Pro bowler this year... Colquitt
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Unfortunately, every time Cincy sees Kizer awaiting the snap they're thinking:
"Here comes Santa Claus - here comes Santa Claus right on freakin cue
he'll aim to please that we'll defend with ease thanks to the man named Hue
Kizer has tenure - Cleveland has forfeits; but there's always next year..."
And then there's BB King lyrics describing what happened to many of the remaining game faces and rose colored glasses left in Cleveland: "The thrill is gone..."
Last week our defense played extremely well while our offense had countless 3 and outs in between Kizer's 4 backbreaking turnovers (1 for a TD). The last time I saw this many football follies from our QB position Brandon Weeden showed us what a bionic arm looks like with blindfolds on... Drafting his clone in round 2 makes us everybody's BINGO FREE SPACE on our schedule.
Wentz isn't the first QB Philly drafted we dismissed in round 1. Donovan McNabb was drafted at #2 overall by the NFL team that finished with the worst NFL record in 1998 for anyone pretending Tim Couch was the only QB going to a bad team. Our brain-trust at the time deemed SU's Veer Option offense as too unconventional to trust (very similar offense to the one Favre played in a So Miss btw). As fate would have it, Philly made the playoffs as early as 2000 and remained there all throughout the tenure of McNabb. That consisted of 5 NFC Championship appearances and 1 Superbowl Sunday with about 3 or 4 Conference/League MVP honors for their franchise QB.
The FO in Cleveland is partying like it's 1999 totally celebrating every time they hear Jimmy shouldn't touch the continuity of 1-24 or 1-25 football by firing anyone perpetuating this farce. Yeah, we'd really hate to see anyone disturb weekly forfeits at our QB and WR positions in the passing era this FO has blessed us with. Hue was hired to be a Head Coach but instead he chose to be an OC in over his head. The owner needs to step up and tell Hue he hired him to be the Head Coach but will be happy to fire him if he prefers to remain in a state of chaos as our OC. I'm hoping Jimmy at least understands what parts of his organization don't understand the offensive side of the football they've been FUBARing to the extent it never matters how hard or good our D plays....
I'm thankful we have a great forum and fan base I can share my frustration with. All that comes from a blowhard that has always been positive and optimistic heading into every season...
The most frustrating thing to me is that our team probably wins 4-6 games with someone like Case Keenum and drafting a WR like Thielen. How many games have we been in, but since our offense is so bad, our defense gets tired and we lose? Every week I watch Keenum play I get angry. Why didn't WE sign him? Why didn't WE draft a guy like Thielen? You know, a big receiver with amazing hands that runs a 4.4 40? No, we draft Ricardo "Skillet Hands" Louis and he's responsible for killing more drives than a flat tire. I'm not saying Keenum takes us to the playoffs, but how many of the 5 Josh Gordon games would we win if we had him? Obviously it's impossible to say, but I certainly would love to see Keenum throwing to Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, Duke Johnson, and Njoku. What if we only won FIVE games with a veteran QB? Doesn't THAT sound pretty good to people?
And I know what some would say, "But Jiggins, we wouldn't be working towards the future! What good does 5 wins do if we're not going to get over the hump with a discarded veteran QB?" Well I don't give a crap. I actually MISS the days of winning 4 or 5 games. I MISS the days of having an outside chance of making the playoffs and thinking, "OK, if we can just get hot in December and win out, we might be able to get a wildcard!" And the biggest frustration is that so many people even said before the season when we cut McCown, "Maybe we should have a veteran presence in the QB room?" Our radio guys said it. Our fans said it. So how do our paid professionals screw it up?
I mean Christ, it's not like the VIKINGS have prolific weapons on offense. Sure, they have an awesome defense, which is why they are division leaders. But I just know that if we had a veteran presence like Keenum we'd be COMPETITIVE. Then the domino effect comes into play. Teams can't load the box to stop the run because we can pass. So now we might be able to run the rock...what a concept! And maybe since we can actually SCORE, we won't be down all game and our defense won't be tired. And maybe since we aren't losing all game, we don't have to pass every down and get sacked all the time. The ripple effects are countless, but it's all just conjecture because we have Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and freaking Deshone Kizer throwing the ball to people. Hooray us.
And what's worse? Now we're hearing the rumors about blowing it all up again. Well ZIPPITY-DOO-DA-DAY. That's just fantastic. And what's worse than THAT? Apparently we're getting rid of the coaching staff, and not the bozos responsible for drafting the idiots on our roster. Of course we do not know who gets the axe and who stays (if anyone) but just the THOUGHT of keeping the same people responsible for making our personnel decisions makes me sick. After watching countless 3 and outs against the Jags, I'm just tired. Tired of not moving the ball. Of not seizing opportunities. Of watching pathetic QB play. And the Bengals mirror the Jags in so many ways, and already kicked our butts once this year. I believe Andy Dalton has like 15 touchdown passes in the last 5 games against us, and his rating is probably near perfect. Just wonderful.
I need some dang coffee.
I mean Christ, it's not like the VIKINGS have prolific weapons on offense. Sure, they have an awesome defense, which is why they are division leaders. But I just know that if we had a veteran presence like Keenum we'd be COMPETITIVE. Then the domino effect comes into play. Teams can't load the box to stop the run because we can pass. So now we might be able to run the rock...what a concept! And maybe since we can actually SCORE, we won't be down all game and our defense won't be tired. And maybe since we aren't losing all game, we don't have to pass every down and get sacked all the time. The ripple effects are countless, but it's all just conjecture because we have Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and freaking Deshone Kizer throwing the ball to people. Hooray us.
The most frustrating thing to me is that our team probably wins 4-6 games with someone like Case Keenum and drafting a WR like Thielen. How many games have we been in, but since our offense is so bad, our defense gets tired and we lose? Every week I watch Keenum play I get angry. Why didn't WE sign him? Why didn't WE draft a guy like Thielen? You know, a big receiver with amazing hands that runs a 4.4 40? No, we draft Ricardo "Skillet Hands" Louis and he's responsible for killing more drives than a flat tire. I'm not saying Keenum takes us to the playoffs, but how many of the 5 Josh Gordon games would we win if we had him? Obviously it's impossible to say, but I certainly would love to see Keenum throwing to Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, Duke Johnson, and Njoku. What if we only won FIVE games with a veteran QB? Doesn't THAT sound pretty good to people?
And I know what some would say, "But Jiggins, we wouldn't be working towards the future! What good does 5 wins do if we're not going to get over the hump with a discarded veteran QB?" Well I don't give a crap. I actually MISS the days of winning 4 or 5 games. I MISS the days of having an outside chance of making the playoffs and thinking, "OK, if we can just get hot in December and win out, we might be able to get a wildcard!" And the biggest frustration is that so many people even said before the season when we cut McCown, "Maybe we should have a veteran presence in the QB room?" Our radio guys said it. Our fans said it. So how do our paid professionals screw it up?
I mean Christ, it's not like the VIKINGS have prolific weapons on offense. Sure, they have an awesome defense, which is why they are division leaders. But I just know that if we had a veteran presence like Keenum we'd be COMPETITIVE. Then the domino effect comes into play. Teams can't load the box to stop the run because we can pass. So now we might be able to run the rock...what a concept! And maybe since we can actually SCORE, we won't be down all game and our defense won't be tired. And maybe since we aren't losing all game, we don't have to pass every down and get sacked all the time. The ripple effects are countless, but it's all just conjecture because we have Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and freaking Deshone Kizer throwing the ball to people. Hooray us.
And what's worse? Now we're hearing the rumors about blowing it all up again. Well ZIPPITY-DOO-DA-DAY. That's just fantastic. And what's worse than THAT? Apparently we're getting rid of the coaching staff, and not the bozos responsible for drafting the idiots on our roster. Of course we do not know who gets the axe and who stays (if anyone) but just the THOUGHT of keeping the same people responsible for making our personnel decisions makes me sick. After watching countless 3 and outs against the Jags, I'm just tired. Tired of not moving the ball. Of not seizing opportunities. Of watching pathetic QB play. And the Bengals mirror the Jags in so many ways, and already kicked our butts once this year. I believe Andy Dalton has like 15 touchdown passes in the last 5 games against us, and his rating is probably near perfect. Just wonderful.
I need some dang coffee.
I'm sure if the Vikings had Kizer throwing the ball they'd of won a ton of less games.
It's just sad the Vikings have 3 quarterbacks better than any on our roster.
21 year old Deshone Kizer signed a 4 year contract worth $4,948,412
24 year old Cody Kessler signed a 4 year, $3,389,082 contract
25 year old Kevin Hogan signed a 2 year, $990,000 contract
25 year old Bridgewater signed a four-year contract worth $6.85 million
30 year old Sam Bradford $18 million for 2017
29 year old Case Keenum signed a one year, $2 million contract
I think the Browns not signing a veteran quarterback is a tell-tale sign of them tanking in 2017 for the #1 pick. We have no bridge quarterback, and we weren't even trying to be competitive at QB this year. Literally, we're spending the minimum possible at QB just to save cap money. Hopefully we get our guy next year, because I think It's been a horrible thing for us fans to suffer though not trying to win.
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Yeah...it's horrible. As terrible as it all is, every week I watch while living in Florida. Every year I spend a lot of money just to be able to watch this crap. Every week I still have my little routine which I cherish. I get my Browns apparel on, I get the TV to myself, and I eagerly wait for each game to come on. And what makes it worse is we're really not getting better. We can say the defense is getting better, but it's really not. If you look at how many yards a game we give up, we look good (#5 in the league). But the most compelling stat nobody talks about is this: Browns defense gives up an opposing QB rating of 102. That is not a typo people. It's 2017, the NFL is a passing league. While it's great to stop the run, it won't do you much good if another team can almost pass at will against you. I haven't looked at Kizer's rating lately, mainly because I don't want to VOMIT, but I'm pretty sure his rating is virtually HALF of what we give up. So his rating is about 50, and we give up 102. That's so ridiculous. Additionally, we also have the worst red zone defense in the league. Guys...teams score TOUCHDOWNS almost 80% of the time when they get to our 20. I've never seen that before...not that I remember. Oh, one more thing, and you'll love this: Kizer completes 52% of his passes (5 tds 14 picks, multiple fumbles, lol). Opposing qb's complete 67%. Lol lol.
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Unfortunately, every time Cincy sees Kizer awaiting the snap they're thinking:
"Here comes Santa Claus - here comes Santa Claus right on freakin cue
he'll aim to please that we'll defend with ease thanks to the man named Hue
Kizer has tenure - Cleveland has forfeits; but there's always next year..."
And then there's BB King lyrics describing what happened to many of the remaining game faces and rose colored glasses left in Cleveland: "The thrill is gone..."
Last week our defense played extremely well while our offense had countless 3 and outs in between Kizer's 4 backbreaking turnovers (1 for a TD). The last time I saw this many football follies from our QB position Brandon Weeden showed us what a bionic arm looks like with blindfolds on... Drafting his clone in round 2 makes us everybody's BINGO FREE SPACE on our schedule.
Wentz isn't the first QB Philly drafted we dismissed in round 1. Donovan McNabb was drafted at #2 overall by the NFL team that finished with the worst NFL record in 1998 for anyone pretending Tim Couch was the only QB going to a bad team. Our brain-trust at the time deemed SU's Veer Option offense as too unconventional to trust (very similar offense to the one Favre played in a So Miss btw). As fate would have it, Philly made the playoffs as early as 2000 and remained there all throughout the tenure of McNabb. That consisted of 5 NFC Championship appearances and 1 Superbowl Sunday with about 3 or 4 Conference/League MVP honors for their franchise QB.
The FO in Cleveland is partying like it's 1999 totally celebrating every time they hear Jimmy shouldn't touch the continuity of 1-24 or 1-25 football by firing anyone perpetuating this farce. Yeah, we'd really hate to see anyone disturb weekly forfeits at our QB and WR positions in the passing era this FO has blessed us with. Hue was hired to be a Head Coach but instead he chose to be an OC in over his head. The owner needs to step up and tell Hue he hired him to be the Head Coach but will be happy to fire him if he prefers to remain in a state of chaos as our OC. I'm hoping Jimmy at least understands what parts of his organization don't understand the offensive side of the football they've been FUBARing to the extent it never matters how hard or good our D plays....
I'm thankful we have a great forum and fan base I can share my frustration with. All that comes from a blowhard that has always been positive and optimistic heading into every season...
The most frustrating thing to me is that our team probably wins 4-6 games with someone like Case Keenum and drafting a WR like Thielen. How many games have we been in, but since our offense is so bad, our defense gets tired and we lose? Every week I watch Keenum play I get angry. Why didn't WE sign him? Why didn't WE draft a guy like Thielen? You know, a big receiver with amazing hands that runs a 4.4 40? No, we draft Ricardo "Skillet Hands" Louis and he's responsible for killing more drives than a flat tire. I'm not saying Keenum takes us to the playoffs, but how many of the 5 Josh Gordon games would we win if we had him? Obviously it's impossible to say, but I certainly would love to see Keenum throwing to Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, Duke Johnson, and Njoku. What if we only won FIVE games with a veteran QB? Doesn't THAT sound pretty good to people?
And I know what some would say, "But Jiggins, we wouldn't be working towards the future! What good does 5 wins do if we're not going to get over the hump with a discarded veteran QB?" Well I don't give a crap. I actually MISS the days of winning 4 or 5 games. I MISS the days of having an outside chance of making the playoffs and thinking, "OK, if we can just get hot in December and win out, we might be able to get a wildcard!" And the biggest frustration is that so many people even said before the season when we cut McCown, "Maybe we should have a veteran presence in the QB room?" Our radio guys said it. Our fans said it. So how do our paid professionals screw it up?
I mean Christ, it's not like the VIKINGS have prolific weapons on offense. Sure, they have an awesome defense, which is why they are division leaders. But I just know that if we had a veteran presence like Keenum we'd be COMPETITIVE. Then the domino effect comes into play. Teams can't load the box to stop the run because we can pass. So now we might be able to run the rock...what a concept! And maybe since we can actually SCORE, we won't be down all game and our defense won't be tired. And maybe since we aren't losing all game, we don't have to pass every down and get sacked all the time. The ripple effects are countless, but it's all just conjecture because we have Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and freaking Deshone Kizer throwing the ball to people. Hooray us.
And what's worse? Now we're hearing the rumors about blowing it all up again. Well ZIPPITY-DOO-DA-DAY. That's just fantastic. And what's worse than THAT? Apparently we're getting rid of the coaching staff, and not the bozos responsible for drafting the idiots on our roster. Of course we do not know who gets the axe and who stays (if anyone) but just the THOUGHT of keeping the same people responsible for making our personnel decisions makes me sick. After watching countless 3 and outs against the Jags, I'm just tired. Tired of not moving the ball. Of not seizing opportunities. Of watching pathetic QB play. And the Bengals mirror the Jags in so many ways, and already kicked our butts once this year. I believe Andy Dalton has like 15 touchdown passes in the last 5 games against us, and his rating is probably near perfect. Just wonderful.
I need some dang coffee.
The most frustrating thing to me is that our team probably wins 4-6 games with someone like Case Keenum and drafting a WR like Thielen. How many games have we been in, but since our offense is so bad, our defense gets tired and we lose? Every week I watch Keenum play I get angry. Why didn't WE sign him? Why didn't WE draft a guy like Thielen? You know, a big receiver with amazing hands that runs a 4.4 40? No, we draft Ricardo "Skillet Hands" Louis and he's responsible for killing more drives than a flat tire. I'm not saying Keenum takes us to the playoffs, but how many of the 5 Josh Gordon games would we win if we had him? Obviously it's impossible to say, but I certainly would love to see Keenum throwing to Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, Duke Johnson, and Njoku. What if we only won FIVE games with a veteran QB? Doesn't THAT sound pretty good to people?
And I know what some would say, "But Jiggins, we wouldn't be working towards the future! What good does 5 wins do if we're not going to get over the hump with a discarded veteran QB?" Well I don't give a crap. I actually MISS the days of winning 4 or 5 games. I MISS the days of having an outside chance of making the playoffs and thinking, "OK, if we can just get hot in December and win out, we might be able to get a wildcard!" And the biggest frustration is that so many people even said before the season when we cut McCown, "Maybe we should have a veteran presence in the QB room?" Our radio guys said it. Our fans said it. So how do our paid professionals screw it up?
I mean Christ, it's not like the VIKINGS have prolific weapons on offense. Sure, they have an awesome defense, which is why they are division leaders. But I just know that if we had a veteran presence like Keenum we'd be COMPETITIVE. Then the domino effect comes into play. Teams can't load the box to stop the run because we can pass. So now we might be able to run the rock...what a concept! And maybe since we can actually SCORE, we won't be down all game and our defense won't be tired. And maybe since we aren't losing all game, we don't have to pass every down and get sacked all the time. The ripple effects are countless, but it's all just conjecture because we have Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and freaking Deshone Kizer throwing the ball to people. Hooray us.
And what's worse? Now we're hearing the rumors about blowing it all up again. Well ZIPPITY-DOO-DA-DAY. That's just fantastic. And what's worse than THAT? Apparently we're getting rid of the coaching staff, and not the bozos responsible for drafting the idiots on our roster. Of course we do not know who gets the axe and who stays (if anyone) but just the THOUGHT of keeping the same people responsible for making our personnel decisions makes me sick. After watching countless 3 and outs against the Jags, I'm just tired. Tired of not moving the ball. Of not seizing opportunities. Of watching pathetic QB play. And the Bengals mirror the Jags in so many ways, and already kicked our butts once this year. I believe Andy Dalton has like 15 touchdown passes in the last 5 games against us, and his rating is probably near perfect. Just wonderful.
I need some dang coffee.
Well done! Now that's what I call "gettin Jiggy with it" all the way down to the surprise ending. I was certain you had about half an acre of coffee bean in you.
Yes, other passing games are blessed with YAC while our's remains haunted by YUCK. A one proud tradition has been reduced to X's and Uh-O's. I guess all we really need for our bionic armed QB with the pocket instincts of a raccoon crossing the road at night is Dr Frankenstein. Legally Blind's got it covered. We're all set!
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Predictions
The Browns will get into the red zone 4 times during the game resulting in a pick , 2 missed field goals and 1 made field goal ......... AJ Green will have 150+ yards receiving, Andy Dalton will look like Tom Brady.....Kizer will be picked off 3 times 1 time will result in a pick six .... and he will be replaced by Kessler in the 4th quarter ..... Duke will score a TD, Peppers will be a non entity due to the fact he is virtually in our end zone even when the opposition are not in the red zone ...... Mixon will be held to less than 50 yards rushing..... Garrett will register 1 sack, a Bengals TE will score 2 TD's .....at the end of the game Hue will say we must get better and learn from this defeat ....the front office will again be silent.....Jimmy and Dee will both have a nervous breakdown, Peyton Manning will come out and say if you think I would ever come to this joke franchise then think again ......we will all come on here saying how much our team suck, Ghoolie will again say we would be 9-2 if we had drafted Paxton Lynch, Gipper will do another quiz ......Tony Grossi will continue to be a jerk ( some justified ), Mary Kay will continue to be a dumb blonde then the following week we will all be ready to go again ...saying this is the week we get the win .....
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Predictions
The Browns will get into the red zone 4 times during the game resulting in a pick , 2 missed field goals and 1 made field goal ......... AJ Green will have 150+ yards receiving, Andy Dalton will look like Tom Brady.....Kizer will be picked off 3 times 1 time will result in a pick six .... and he will be replaced by Kessler in the 4th quarter ..... Duke will score a TD, Peppers will be a non entity due to the fact he is virtually in our end zone even when the opposition are not in the red zone ...... Mixon will be held to less than 50 yards rushing..... Garrett will register 1 sack, a Bengals TE will score 2 TD's .....at the end of the game Hue will say we must get better and learn from this defeat ....the front office will again be silent.....Jimmy and Dee will both have a nervous breakdown, Peyton Manning will come out and say if you think I would ever come to this joke franchise then think again ......we will all come on here saying how much our team suck, Ghoolie will again say we would be 9-2 if we had drafted Paxton Lynch, Gipper will do another quiz ......Tony Grossi will continue to be a jerk ( some justified ), Mary Kay will continue to be a dumb blonde then the following week we will all be ready to go again ...saying this is the week we get the win .....
Predictions
The Browns will get into the red zone 4 times during the game resulting in a pick , 2 missed field goals and 1 made field goal ......... AJ Green will have 150+ yards receiving, Andy Dalton will look like Tom Brady.....Kizer will be picked off 3 times 1 time will result in a pick six .... and he will be replaced by Kessler in the 4th quarter ..... Duke will score a TD, Peppers will be a non entity due to the fact he is virtually in our end zone even when the opposition are not in the red zone ...... Mixon will be held to less than 50 yards rushing..... Garrett will register 1 sack, a Bengals TE will score 2 TD's .....at the end of the game Hue will say we must get better and learn from this defeat ....the front office will again be silent.....Jimmy and Dee will both have a nervous breakdown, Peyton Manning will come out and say if you think I would ever come to this joke franchise then think again ......we will all come on here saying how much our team suck, Ghoolie will again say we would be 9-2 if we had drafted Paxton Lynch, Gipper will do another quiz ......Tony Grossi will continue to be a jerk ( some justified ), Mary Kay will continue to be a dumb blonde then the following week we will all be ready to go again ...saying this is the week we get the win .....
You forgot "Another riveting poll by PoG regarding Kevin Hogan"...
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21 year old Deshone Kizer signed a 4 year contract worth $4,948,412
24 year old Cody Kessler signed a 4 year, $3,389,082 contract
25 year old Kevin Hogan signed a 2 year, $990,000 contract
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And in 2018 they will sign another boy wonder to rescue the franchise.......geeezzz I've turned into a cynical old bastard.
Actually they do have a nucleus for something, the byproduct of stockpiling so many high draft picks.
I can't wait until April 2018 when the BROWNS season begins again........yeah cynical, but a closet optimist or is it optometrist?
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BROWNS AT BENGALS
CLEVELAND BROWNS INJURIES
PlayerPositionInjuryPractice StatusGame StatusIsaiah Crowell RB -- Full Participation in Practice -- Jabrill Peppers S -- Full Participation in Practice -- Joseph Tretter C -- Full Participation in Practice -- Kenneth Britt WR -- Limited Participation in Practice -- Derron Smith S Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful Sammie Coates WR Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out CINCINNATI BENGALS INJURIESPlayerPositionInjuryPractice StatusGame StatusD'Andre Kirkpatrick CB -- Did Not Participate In Practice -- Clint Boling G -- Full Participation in Practice -- Alex Erickson WR -- Full Participation in Practice -- Jordan Evans LB -- Full Participation in Practice -- William Jackson CB -- Full Participation in Practice -- Adam Jones CB -- Full Participation in Practice -- Tyler Kroft TE -- Full Participation in Practice -- Brandon LaFell WR -- Full Participation in Practice -- Kevin Minter LB -- Full Participation in Practice -- Vincent Rey LB Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out Shawn Williams S Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out Darqueze Dennard CB Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable -
Hi, Browns fans!
The Battle Of Ohio in the NFL continues as Cleveland Browns seeking to win the first regular season game in 2017, take the short 220 mile flight across the Buckeye State, as they the play the 4-6 Cincinnati Bengals in their 89th all-time meeting. Bengals are the first divisional opponent the Browns are playing again in their home and home series in the AFC North.
Cleveland have not won a regular season game since Cody Parkey kicked his game-decided 27-yard field goal with less than 11 minuies left in the fourth quarter, and the Browns, won their only game in their 2016 regular season, defeating the San Diego Chargers at FirstEnergy Stadium back Robert Griffin III also completed 17 of his 25 passes for 164 yards, on Christmas Eve, 12/24 2016.
Browns also have not won a regular season game going into week 12, their last win, a 25-0 preseason road win at Chicago in August, finishing and undefeated and 4-0 preseason.
Cincinnati still leads the all-time regular season series over Cincinnati 49 wins and 39 losses, including their current six game winning streak over our Browns after 88 games. Bengals have outscored the Browns 183-47 in those previous six meetings, beginning on December 2014.
Cleveland seeks to win their first game in three years over Cincinnati, since the Browns 24-3 win back on November 6, 2014.
Sunny and clear skies at 46 degrees, feels like 42 degrees, is the game forecast inside Paul Brown Stadium, for the 1:05PM Eastern Standard Time kickoff, along with 0% precipitation, 56% humidity, and western winds at 7 miles per hour.
NO injuries, try to win your first game over the Bengals in six years, and your first win in 2017, and GO BROWNS!!!!! BELIEVELAND!!!!
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/injury-report.html
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/schedule-and-events/schedule.html
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But which one is official!?!?!
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
But which one is official!?!?!
We already have one.
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In days gone bye, this was always a tough game to handicap. The rivalry used to pretty much dissolve the point spread and you just never knew what was going to happen. The Bengals are a weird, weird team. They have great seasons blooming and then go soft against the Steelers and Ravens. In the past 6 years it seems like on paper we have a chance, but then almost as if by attrition, the Bengals pull away and make the plays we can't to win.
My gut tells me that our D will again keep the Bengals close, only to see us again flounder and get overtaken in the last part of the game.
We have the edge in defense.
They have a better QB, WR, and coaching staff. I thinkas it has been in many games this year, we stay close and fade in the 4th. I'll go Bengals 24 Browns 17
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But which one is official!?!?!
He likes to think he's "official". It's around his sole contribution to the Forum. Wonder if he does the same for the other 31 teams.
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Ogbahs out for the season right? Have we called up another DE?
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Believe it or not, Nassib has stepped up his game, and I think Orchard will now get more playing time, although it could be Holmes...not sure. Hue Jackson said he's waiting for Myles Garrett to dominate a game, and I love that he put the pressure on him. No "it's a team game" crap...he expects great things from our #1 pick, and I dig it. Myles has been very solid so far, but I know what Hue is saying. He doesn't want solid, or even very good....he wants domination, and Garrett has that kind of ability.
This Bengals game comes at a very bad time, as we obviously struggle offensively against physical defenses. We can't run against them, we get into too many 3rd and longs, and we all know how we can't pass effectively. We really could've used a match-up against a team not known for their physicality, but we have to play who is on the schedule. In another Bengals post, I believe I listed Dalton's stats against us in the past 5 games: 15 touchdowns and 0 picks (at least I THINK that's right. Too lazy to verify). Bottom line is...we're EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for the Bengals. It's a bad match-up on paper, it's at Cincy, and Kizer is coming off a real stink-fest which really should've been our first victory of the year.
Don't be surprised if you see more Duke Johnson, both in passing game and running game. I also think we'll see SOME sort of creativity either in special teams or offensive razzle-dazzle. It's time to reach down in our bag of tricks because we need SOMETHING to help us score and sustain drives. We cannot get into another punting competition against this team or we'll get our butts whooped (again).
I'm not trying to be negative. Nobody wants to read that crap, but it's obviously not good on paper for our team today. I'd love to see us play well today and figure out SOME way to win, and then ride some momentum to L. A. next week against an erratic Charger team with Josh Gordon storming back onto the field. If our defense can somehow figure out a way to hold the Bengals to field goals, our offense punches in two tds, and we get a big play from defense or special teams...we can win. And lord how we need it.
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In days gone bye, this was always a tough game to handicap. The rivalry used to pretty much dissolve the point spread and you just never knew what was going to happen. The Bengals are a weird, weird team. They have great seasons blooming and then go soft against the Steelers and Ravens. In the past 6 years it seems like on paper we have a chance, but then almost as if by attrition, the Bengals pull away and make the plays we can't to win.
My gut tells me that our D will again keep the Bengals close, only to see us again flounder and get overtaken in the last part of the game.
We have the edge in defense.
They have a better QB, WR, and coaching staff. I thinkas it has been in many games this year, we stay close and fade in the 4th. I'll go Bengals 24 Browns 17
In days gone bye, this was always a tough game to handicap. The rivalry used to pretty much dissolve the point spread and you just never knew what was going to happen. The Bengals are a weird, weird team. They have great seasons blooming and then go soft against the Steelers and Ravens. In the past 6 years it seems like on paper we have a chance, but then almost as if by attrition, the Bengals pull away and make the plays we can't to win.
My gut tells me that our D will again keep the Bengals close, only to see us again flounder and get overtaken in the last part of the game.
We have the edge in defense.
They have a better QB, WR, and coaching staff. I thinkas it has been in many games this year, we stay close and fade in the 4th. I'll go Bengals 24 Browns 17
I think I would add the "Hue" 10 pt. handicapper into that score. Bengals 30 Browns 13.
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Believe it or not, Nassib has stepped up his game, and I think Orchard will now get more playing time, although it could be Holmes...not sure. Hue Jackson said he's waiting for Myles Garrett to dominate a game, and I love that he put the pressure on him. No "it's a team game" crap...he expects great things from our #1 pick, and I dig it. Myles has been very solid so far, but I know what Hue is saying. He doesn't want solid, or even very good....he wants domination, and Garrett has that kind of ability.
This Bengals game comes at a very bad time, as we obviously struggle offensively against physical defenses. We can't run against them, we get into too many 3rd and longs, and we all know how we can't pass effectively. We really could've used a match-up against a team not known for their physicality, but we have to play who is on the schedule. In another Bengals post, I believe I listed Dalton's stats against us in the past 5 games: 15 touchdowns and 0 picks (at least I THINK that's right. Too lazy to verify). Bottom line is...we're EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for the Bengals. It's a bad match-up on paper, it's at Cincy, and Kizer is coming off a real stink-fest which really should've been our first victory of the year.
Don't be surprised if you see more Duke Johnson, both in passing game and running game. I also think we'll see SOME sort of creativity either in special teams or offensive razzle-dazzle. It's time to reach down in our bag of tricks because we need SOMETHING to help us score and sustain drives. We cannot get into another punting competition against this team or we'll get our butts whooped (again).
I'm not trying to be negative. Nobody wants to read that crap, but it's obviously not good on paper for our team today. I'd love to see us play well today and figure out SOME way to win, and then ride some momentum to L. A. next week against an erratic Charger team with Josh Gordon storming back onto the field. If our defense can somehow figure out a way to hold the Bengals to field goals, our offense punches in two tds, and we get a big play from defense or special teams...we can win. And lord how we need it.
I also think we'll see SOME sort of creativity either in special teams or offensive razzle-dazzle. It's time to reach down in our bag of tricks
No thank you.
Let's first see if we can play tackle football...like the Browns. Else we end up looking like clowns.
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Browns win 19 - 13 lots of FG
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Inactives are out...
Cleveland Browns InjuriesSammie Coates WR Inactive Darius Hillary CB Inactive Kevin Hogan QB Inactive Matt Lengel TE Inactive Marcus Martin C Inactive T.Y. McGill DT Inactive Derron Smith FS Inactive Cincinnati Bengals InjuriesBrian Hill RB Inactive Alex Redmond OG Inactive Vincent Rey OLB Inactive John Ross WR Inactive KeiVarae Russell CB Inactive Christian Westerman OG Inactive Shawn Williams SS Inactive
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