So I watched "moneyball" for the first time yesterday
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You’re acting like you can just overpay a bunch of guys because you have the money NOW and it won’t come back to bite you down the road. It will.
Furthermore, we knew that we wouldn’t be good for several years. So taking a 29 year old that has 2 years left in the tank that won’t be here once we’re actually good is completely pointless. And that’s also why we let guys like Donte Whitner go. They take snaps away from young guys who will be here in the future.
You’re acting like you can just overpay a bunch of guys because you have the money NOW and it won’t come back to bite you down the road. It will.
Furthermore, we knew that we wouldn’t be good for several years. So taking a 29 year old that has 2 years left in the tank that won’t be here once we’re actually good is completely pointless. And that’s also why we let guys like Donte Whitner go. They take snaps away from young guys who will be here in the future.
yet another strawman from you. I've always said for the plan to work, we need to sign free agents next year and the year after. Like I've said a ton of times, if jimmy is 40-60 million under the cap in 2018 and 2019 then he's just being a cheap bastard. No other reasoning about it.
Actually, Taking a 29 year old with 2 years left in the tank would've been great. We could've been winning with a guy like Keenum. Tanking and losing shouldn't be under anyones strategy. You have to find ways to win in this sport. And quite frankly, we have no veteran leadership at QB. If a veteran was with us, our QB's might develop much better. Keenum had a $2mil contract, but it's all good, just like Children of the Corn, we can't have players younger then X age.
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Who the hell is this Bo Callahan that you keep comparing Rosen to stillmotion?
Who the hell is this Bo Callahan that you keep comparing Rosen to stillmotion?
The QB that is ranked #1 in the Draft Day movie.
About Hue, I'm just going to say this: I think there's a lot of blame to put on him for some of the losses this year, so I would rather keep quiet and not start demanding to have more voice in the decision making.
He is not in a position to demand anything. If I am the boss and someone who is underperforming dares to complain to me, he's simply getting more tickets to get fired.
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LOL you all and your "moneyball" cowpoop. Do you understand anything about baseball? What happened after the big 3 starting pitchers (which were all drafted by the A's) left the team? The Indians of the 90's did a better job of putting together a team through the draft, trades and free agency. Just not as good on the starting pitching front.
BTW what has Paul DePodesta done for the last 15 years?
Why better way to revive your career than to go to a team that has been God awful for the last 17 years? There is nowhere to go than up right?
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
So Rosen is being compared to a fictional character from a poor movie?
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LOL you all and your "moneyball" cowpoop. Do you understand anything about baseball? What happened after the big 3 starting pitchers (which were all drafted by the A's) left the team? The Indians of the 90's did a better job of putting together a team through the draft, trades and free agency. Just not as good on the starting pitching front.
BTW what has Paul DePodesta done for the last 15 years?
Why better way to revive your career than to go to a team that has been God awful for the last 17 years? There is nowhere to go than up right?
LOL you all and your "moneyball" cowpoop. Do you understand anything about baseball? What happened after the big 3 starting pitchers (which were all drafted by the A's) left the team? The Indians of the 90's did a better job of putting together a team through the draft, trades and free agency. Just not as good on the starting pitching front.
BTW what has Paul DePodesta done for the last 15 years?
Why better way to revive your career than to go to a team that has been God awful for the last 17 years? There is nowhere to go than up right?
You do know that the principles of "Moneyball" were responsible for the ending of epic title droughts for the Red Sox, Cubs and Astros, right?
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LOL you all and your "moneyball" cowpoop. Do you understand anything about baseball? What happened after the big 3 starting pitchers (which were all drafted by the A's) left the team? The Indians of the 90's did a better job of putting together a team through the draft, trades and free agency. Just not as good on the starting pitching front.
BTW what has Paul DePodesta done for the last 15 years?
Why better way to revive your career than to go to a team that has been God awful for the last 17 years? There is nowhere to go than up right?
You do know that the principles of "Moneyball" were responsible for the ending of epic title droughts for the Red Sox, Cubs and Astros, right?
You do know that the principles of "Moneyball" were responsible for the ending of epic title droughts for the Red Sox, Cubs and Astros, right?
KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK what have the A's done in the last 15 years since the big 3 starts all left??? Your right 2016 Cubs $163 million payroll #6...yep thats moneyball the 2004 Red Sox $125 million payroll #2 again more moneyball......spend alot of money and you can ball
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You do know that the principles of "Moneyball" were responsible for the ending of epic title droughts for the Red Sox, Cubs and Astros, right?
KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK what have the A's done in the last 15 years since the big 3 starts all left??? Your right 2016 Cubs $163 million payroll #6...yep thats moneyball the 2004 Red Sox $125 million payroll #2 again more moneyball......spend alot of money and you can ball
KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK what have the A's done in the last 15 years since the big 3 starts all left??? Your right 2016 Cubs $163 million payroll #6...yep thats moneyball the 2004 Red Sox $125 million payroll #2 again more moneyball......spend alot of money and you can ball
Using the Astros as example, though, while they were rebuilding the team they spent NOTHING on payroll.
The Browns are following that exact approach.
Not saying it will work, but the parallel is there.
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You’re acting like you can just overpay a bunch of guys because you have the money NOW and it won’t come back to bite you down the road. It will.
Furthermore, we knew that we wouldn’t be good for several years. So taking a 29 year old that has 2 years left in the tank that won’t be here once we’re actually good is completely pointless. And that’s also why we let guys like Donte Whitner go. They take snaps away from young guys who will be here in the future.
If they want to win next year, they need to add FAs, at least on offense. Adding more rookies on offense will NOT make this a winning team next year.
If they want to win next year, they need to add FAs, at least on offense. Adding more rookies on offense will NOT make this a winning team next year.
Define "winning"...
If you mean "win more than we lose," then congratulations on your keen insight... except for the fact that even a significant FA add (which will not happen) would not transform us into a > .500 team in one off-season.
yet another strawman from you. I've always said for the plan to work, we need to sign free agents next year and the year after. Like I've said a ton of times, if jimmy is 40-60 million under the cap in 2018 and 2019 then he's just being a cheap bastard. No other reasoning about it.
Actually, Taking a 29 year old with 2 years left in the tank would've been great. We could've been winning with a guy like Keenum. Tanking and losing shouldn't be under anyones strategy. You have to find ways to win in this sport. And quite frankly, we have no veteran leadership at QB. If a veteran was with us, our QB's might develop much better. Keenum had a $2mil contract, but it's all good, just like Children of the Corn, we can't have players younger then X age.
While I disagree with "several years", it's hardly a straw man argument that he is making. At least it's nowhere as close to one as "winning with Keenum"...
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KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK what have the A's done in the last 15 years since the big 3 starts all left??? Your right 2016 Cubs $163 million payroll #6...yep thats moneyball the 2004 Red Sox $125 million payroll #2 again more moneyball......spend alot of money and you can ball
Using the Astros as example, though, while they were rebuilding the team they spent NOTHING on payroll.
The Browns are following that exact approach.
Not saying it will work, but the parallel is there.
Using the Astros as example, though, while they were rebuilding the team they spent NOTHING on payroll.
The Browns are following that exact approach.
Not saying it will work, but the parallel is there.
We really need to quit trying to save these guys from their misery...
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I can't believe this is still being entertained. Two completely different situations. In MLB some markets really don't have the same amount money to spend and that is not the case in the NFL. Now some of the principles apply but all NFL teams are using sabremetrics to help them assemble the best roster for money spent per player. That's what a hard cap will do to front office decision making but to think there are some magic number crunching that other NFL teams are unaware about is laughable or better yet Brownsesque
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How about the 9 average at best players for a franchise QB. We didn't NEED those guys and giving up a franchise QB for them was STUPID, STUPID STUPID!!!!. We still need a QB and those 9 players have helped so much....NOT.
Hue, StoshBerrypudpuller all answer to Jimmy. He's the final say. Rot in a federal Penitentiary Jimmy...you really do stink!
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