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  • D Bone D BoneD Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    I tried to hit the Laugh Button, but all I got was this....  

    (but rest assured, I am laughing)

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      B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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      That's fine but rest assured the rest of the NFL will be laughing when  Cleveland  takes another quarterback that fails and the dumpster fire continues

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      • stillmotion stillmotionS Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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        stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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        Shutup Troll, we have one of the highest paid o-line's in the league.

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          B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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          That's doesn't mean there good.  How can you fans not get this.  The line is bad by all accounts.  They are not good at anything.  Ok so if there so good name me the last time the browns had a 3000 yard passer and an 1000 yard runner in the same year 

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            Shutup Troll, we have one of the highest paid o-line's in the league.

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            B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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            @stillmotion said:

            Shutup Troll, we have one of the highest paid o-line's in the league.

            If you think I am trolling your wrong.  I'm simple telling the reality of the situation.  Obviously you can't take reality 

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              That's doesn't mean there good.  How can you fans not get this.  The line is bad by all accounts.  They are not good at anything.  Ok so if there so good name me the last time the browns had a 3000 yard passer and an 1000 yard runner in the same year 

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              RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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              @babernakle said:

              That's doesn't mean there good.  How can you fans not get this.  The line is bad by all accounts.  They are not good at anything.  Ok so if there so good name me the last time the browns had a 3000 yard passer and an 1000 yard runner in the same year 

              Probably the last time we had a QB play the whole year

              "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
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                B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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                And why did the QBs not make it  through the whole year

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  Anyone here knows ive been so mad about our o line play for so long my phone would get hot when i typed about em. So i dont want to hear im some kind sunshine homer when i say the o line isnt performing that badly. They're certainly not even close to our biggest concerns. Remember drangos first gamevreplacing joe? Who was that coming off the right side that drango pretty much smothered all day? The nfl's sack leader i beleive, lemme check here....

                  NAME TEAM SACK
                  1 C. Jones, LB ARI 12.0
                    E. Griffen, DE MIN 12.0
                  3 D. Lawrence, DE DAL 11.5
                    C. Campbell, DE JAX 11.5
                  5 J. Bosa, DE LAC 10.5
                  6 C. Jordan, DE NO 10.0
                    Y. Ngakoue, DE JAX 10.0
                  8 C. Heyward, DE PIT 9.0
                    R. Kerrigan, LB WSH 9.0
                  10 J. Houston, LB KC 8.5
                    V. Miller, LB DEN 8.5
                    M. Ingram, LB LAC 8.5
                    J. Peppers, DE CAR 8.5
                  14 J. Clowney, DE HOU 8.0
                    C. Wake, DE MIA 8.0
                    A. Clayborn, DE ATL 8.0
                  17 M. Bennett, DE SEA 7.5
                    M. Addison, DE CAR 7.5
                    T. Suggs, LB BAL 7.5
                  20 A. Hicks, DE CHI 7.0
                    B. Graham, DE PHI 7.0
                    N. Perry, LB GB 7.0
                    D. Morgan, LB TEN 7.0
                    C. Lawson, LB CIN 7.0
                  25 K. Mack, DE OAK 6.5
                    J. Pierre-Paul, DE NYG 6.5
                    G. Atkins, DT CIN 6.5
                    A. Zettel, DT DET 6.5
                    D. Fowler Jr., DE JAX 6.5
                  30 V. Williams, LB PIT  
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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    Yup, eversen griffin still at the top. 

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      O line aint half bad. We're finally starting to see competency built in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I just hope to dear god we dont have massive scheme changes next year

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                        @stillmotion said:

                        Shutup Troll, we have one of the highest paid o-line's in the league.

                        If you think I am trolling your wrong.  I'm simple telling the reality of the situation.  Obviously you can't take reality 

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                        stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                        @babernakle said:

                        If you think I am trolling your wrong.  I'm simple telling the reality of the situation.  Obviously you can't take reality 

                        You're telling me your perspective which I believe majority of the board would agree with my take on it.

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                          That's doesn't mean there good.  How can you fans not get this.  The line is bad by all accounts.  They are not good at anything.  Ok so if there so good name me the last time the browns had a 3000 yard passer and an 1000 yard runner in the same year 

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                          thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                          @babernakle said:

                          That's doesn't mean there good.  How can you fans not get this.  The line is bad by all accounts.  They are not good at anything.  Ok so if there so good name me the last time the browns had a 3000 yard passer and an 1000 yard runner in the same year 

                          Wow... 

                          This team lacks playmakers, on both sides of the ball. Too many TOs on offense, and not enough on D. Plus, no redzone production.

                          Both lines are just fine...

                          #Justsayin'
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                            The point is they do nothing well no part of the browns is elite. If they build an elite o-line then everyone benefits. Qb plays better the rbs run better and Clevelands aren't half bad plus as Dallas did last year they played keep away and limited the opposing offense to less drives making up for some defensive shortcomings.  Build an elite line and the qb will come.  If wentz played for the browns he would probably be hurt and not have great numbers. 

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                              The point is they do nothing well no part of the browns is elite. If they build an elite o-line then everyone benefits. Qb plays better the rbs run better and Clevelands aren't half bad plus as Dallas did last year they played keep away and limited the opposing offense to less drives making up for some defensive shortcomings.  Build an elite line and the qb will come.  If wentz played for the browns he would probably be hurt and not have great numbers. 

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                              thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                              @babernakle said:

                              The point is they do nothing well no part of the browns is elite. If they build an elite o-line then everyone benefits. Qb plays better the rbs run better and Clevelands aren't half bad plus as Dallas did last year they played keep away and limited the opposing offense to less drives making up for some defensive shortcomings.  Build an elite line and the qb will come.  If wentz played for the browns he would probably be hurt and not have great numbers. 

                              You're really just wrong... most advanced stats have our Oline ranked higher than Philly (hard to compare olines without looking at some of these numbers). Our run blocking is top 10 and our pass protection is good, but gets knocked bc Kizer takes too many sacks. 

                              Kizer has had PLENTY of time all year to deliver the football, but has not been able to. Check the INT numbers... might have a little more negative impact on our record than our above-average Oline...

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                                The point is they do nothing well no part of the browns is elite. If they build an elite o-line then everyone benefits. Qb plays better the rbs run better and Clevelands aren't half bad plus as Dallas did last year they played keep away and limited the opposing offense to less drives making up for some defensive shortcomings.  Build an elite line and the qb will come.  If wentz played for the browns he would probably be hurt and not have great numbers. 

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                @babernakle said:

                                The point is they do nothing well no part of the browns is elite. If they build an elite o-line then everyone benefits. Qb plays better the rbs run better and Clevelands aren't half bad plus as Dallas did last year they played keep away and limited the opposing offense to less drives making up for some defensive shortcomings.  Build an elite line and the qb will come.  If wentz played for the browns he would probably be hurt and not have great numbers. 

                                RB's don't run better when they have piss poor vision. Ala Crow. 

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                                  Yup, eversen griffin still at the top. 

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @clevfan4life said:

                                  Yup, eversen griffin still at the top. 

                                  Next week they get Bosa.

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                                    O line aint half bad. We're finally starting to see competency built in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I just hope to dear god we dont have massive scheme changes next year

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    O line aint half bad.

                                    Accurate statement...

                                    Bito is back and were Joe beside him our left side would be "elite".

                                    Tretter has stabilized the Center position and has improved as the season has progressed... just as a player returning from injury should.

                                    Zeitler, playing at an average level, has been a disappointment.

                                    S. Coleman had a bad day Sunday. His footwork was way below the level he has shown he's capable of this season.

                                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      O line aint half bad.

                                      Accurate statement...

                                      Bito is back and were Joe beside him our left side would be "elite".

                                      Tretter has stabilized the Center position and has improved as the season has progressed... just as a player returning from injury should.

                                      Zeitler, playing at an average level, has been a disappointment.

                                      S. Coleman had a bad day Sunday. His footwork was way below the level he has shown he's capable of this season.

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      Accurate statement...

                                      Bito is back and were Joe beside him our left side would be "elite".

                                      Tretter has stabilized the Center position and has improved as the season has progressed... just as a player returning from injury should.

                                      Zeitler, playing at an average level, has been a disappointment.

                                      S. Coleman had a bad day Sunday. His footwork was way below the level he has shown he's capable of this season.

                                      U if all people know how critical ive been of the o line, we've gone back and forth for years now about that. For me to say they aint half bad is literally getting the old man down the block who yells get off my lawn all the time to say something nice

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                                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                        Oh.... I took it as a complement. Just fleshed out the argument some.

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                                          Oh.... I took it as a complement. Just fleshed out the argument some.

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                                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Oh.... I took it as a complement. Just fleshed out the argument some.

                                          I know. Just saying if im acknowledging the o line, based on how brutal i was with them in years past......u cant call me no sunshine boy, not with the o line nope. I think a year or two ago i was so exassperated i wanted everything to joes right fired immediately and without notice. 

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