Apathy Setting In
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See above...lol
Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything that gave a solid reason for making the guy inactive? I'm guessing that's the coach's decision not the front office right? If Jackson promoted him to second string and started him just as an FU to Sashi Brown...
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Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything that gave a solid reason for making the guy inactive? I'm guessing that's the coach's decision not the front office right? If Jackson promoted him to second string and started him just as an FU to Sashi Brown...
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Just a FO decision. If it's the HC, like it should be, or the GM Stosh, or the GM pudpuller or the GM ferry... But they all do answer directly to Jimmah....so it would be on him ultimately. What a friggin mess
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Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything that gave a solid reason for making the guy inactive? I'm guessing that's the coach's decision not the front office right? If Jackson promoted him to second string and started him just as an FU to Sashi Brown...
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Just a FO decision. If it's the HC, like it should be, or the GM Stosh, or the GM pudpuller or the GM ferry... But they all do answer directly to Jimmah....so it would be on him ultimately. What a friggin mess
Just a FO decision. If it's the HC, like it should be, or the GM Stosh, or the GM pudpuller or the GM ferry... But they all do answer directly to Jimmah....so it would be on him ultimately. What a friggin mess
Then I hate the front office more than I did before.
And it doesn't really matter if Hogan is worse than Kessler just the fact that these morons are telling the head coach who to play at the most important position on the team after they foisted a bust on him in Kizer.
And no wonder Jackson has been talking with Jimmy.
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Just a FO decision. If it's the HC, like it should be, or the GM Stosh, or the GM pudpuller or the GM ferry... But they all do answer directly to Jimmah....so it would be on him ultimately. What a friggin mess
Then I hate the front office more than I did before.
And it doesn't really matter if Hogan is worse than Kessler just the fact that these morons are telling the head coach who to play at the most important position on the team after they foisted a bust on him in Kizer.
And no wonder Jackson has been talking with Jimmy.
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Then I hate the front office more than I did before.
And it doesn't really matter if Hogan is worse than Kessler just the fact that these morons are telling the head coach who to play at the most important position on the team after they foisted a bust on him in Kizer.
And no wonder Jackson has been talking with Jimmy.
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Check out the trial going on in Tenn against flying J. He's just a lowlife hillbilly crook. At least that's what the FO he hired at Flying J seems to think. It's disturbing reading.
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The lawyers that are incriminating Jimmah and defending the execs are being paid by ...... Flying J. Not to mention the 170 some million paid in fines and restitution ordered by the courts. The family most likely forced him to sell the business to Buffet before Jimmah ran it broke. IMHO anyway after reading all that crap
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Then I hate the front office more than I did before.
And it doesn't really matter if Hogan is worse than Kessler just the fact that these morons are telling the head coach who to play at the most important position on the team after they foisted a bust on him in Kizer.
And no wonder Jackson has been talking with Jimmy.
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Check out the trial going on in Tenn against flying J. He's just a lowlife hillbilly crook. At least that's what the FO he hired at Flying J seems to think. It's disturbing reading.
Check out the trial going on in Tenn against flying J. He's just a lowlife hillbilly crook. At least that's what the FO he hired at Flying J seems to think. It's disturbing reading.
Lol
0 is the number of fuks I give abad the Flying J problems.
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Check out the trial going on in Tenn against flying J. He's just a lowlife hillbilly crook. At least that's what the FO he hired at Flying J seems to think. It's disturbing reading.
Lol
0 is the number of fuks I give abad the Flying J problems.
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Lol
0 is the number of fuks I give abad the Flying J problems.
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I understand that. I just wanted more insight on the owner. This could well be the last season he runs the team
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Lol
0 is the number of fuks I give abad the Flying J problems.
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I understand that. I just wanted more insight on the owner. This could well be the last season he runs the team
I understand that. I just wanted more insight on the owner. This could well be the last season he runs the team
And I understand that. As long as we're understanding stuff. Hoping he can dodge these Mickey Mouse accusations or has the good sense to sell to somebody who might have a better grip on it. Still as far as that goes who the hell knows? Within a team you can go back a few years before they get successful and probably have no idea whether or not the front office and coaching staff that has been put in place is going to be a winner in the future.
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Maybe some of the guys that keep calling for this will get lucky and Bernie Kosar will take that eight hundred bucks he still has in the bank and put together a Consortium.
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Maybe some of the guys that keep calling for this will get lucky and Bernie Kosar will take that eight hundred bucks he still has in the bank and put together a Consortium.
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Maybe some of the guys that keep calling for this will get lucky and Bernie Kosar will take that eight hundred bucks he still has in the bank and put together a Consortium.
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He has at least a grand
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And maybe Randy Lerner would rebuy the Browns...
An owner change at this point would be as disastrous as "installing a football guy" atop the FO.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And maybe Randy Lerner would rebuy the Browns...
An owner change at this point would be as disastrous as "installing a football guy" atop the FO.
And maybe Randy Lerner would rebuy the Browns...
An owner change at this point would be as disastrous as "installing a football guy" atop the FO.
You tell em boy! Keep them damn football people away from the controls of the team.
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Maybe some of the guys that keep calling for this will get lucky and Bernie Kosar will take that eight hundred bucks he still has in the bank and put together a Consortium.
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Maybe some of the guys that keep calling for this will get lucky and Bernie Kosar will take that eight hundred bucks he still has in the bank and put together a Consortium.
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Oh god $800, for a guy who made about $80,000,000 (+/-) in NFL career.....and was a finance student while at Miami, unreal. BUT might be good in some capacity with the BROWNS.
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Yeah, when Kessler had to come in when Kizer hurt his ribs- he actually make Deshone look good by comparison.
Plus teams have tape on Cody now, they know he's not mobile, and they blitz the hell out of us whenever he's in the game.
So why is Hogan 3rd string is what I want to know. I think Kessler goes and Hogan stays next year, they just want to be sure Kessler is done. Hogan came in the game and put points on the board... enough points that Kizer was edged out of the start. But know- nothing.
So why is Hogan 3rd string is what I want to know. I think Kessler goes and Hogan stays next year, they just want to be sure Kessler is done. Hogan came in the game and put points on the board... enough points that Kizer was edged out of the start. But know- nothing.
Hate to break it to you PO, but MHO is Kizer is the only one who survives.
And I understand that. As long as we're understanding stuff. Hoping he can dodge these Mickey Mouse accusations or has the good sense to sell to somebody who might have a better grip on it. Still as far as that goes who the hell knows? Within a team you can go back a few years before they get successful and probably have no idea whether or not the front office and coaching staff that has been put in place is going to be a winner in the future.
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Steve, when the Feds get involved it's not looking good for Jimmy. Dee could probably run the team if he winds up in some resort federal lockup for a few years. Or the league could force him out, even if he doesn't get found out running that rebate scam. Which brings me to......
Maybe some of the guys that keep calling for this will get lucky and Bernie Kosar will take that eight hundred bucks he still has in the bank and put together a Consortium.
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Bernie's got his name and almost certainly a cut of the profits at Kosar's at the Racino. Plus, gets something for those radio and TV spots. So he's not broke. The better question is, does he know enough guys with enough cash (like a billion or so) to buy Haslam out? Though really, all they'd need is (shades of Modell) 51% to have controlling interest.
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Okay Bernie's paycheck for the restaurant and radio spots might be more than eight hundred bucks. That's your argument?
Controlling interest in an NFL team would probably cost at least five or six thousand dollars.
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Okay Bernie's paycheck for the restaurant and radio spots might be more than eight hundred bucks. That's your argument?
Controlling interest in an NFL team would probably cost at least five or six thousand dollars.
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Okay Bernie's paycheck for the restaurant and radio spots might be more than eight hundred bucks. That's your argument?
Controlling interest in an NFL team would probably cost at least five or six thousand dollars.
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Maybe he could get a peanut concession? Seriously though I've always liked Bernie he sold out for Cleveland and I wish him well.....hopefully still with the Browns.
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Yeah, when Kessler had to come in when Kizer hurt his ribs- he actually make Deshone look good by comparison.
Plus teams have tape on Cody now, they know he's not mobile, and they blitz the hell out of us whenever he's in the game.
So why is Hogan 3rd string is what I want to know. I think Kessler goes and Hogan stays next year, they just want to be sure Kessler is done. Hogan came in the game and put points on the board... enough points that Kizer was edged out of the start. But know- nothing.
So why is Hogan 3rd string is what I want to know. I think Kessler goes and Hogan stays next year, they just want to be sure Kessler is done. Hogan came in the game and put points on the board... enough points that Kizer was edged out of the start. But know- nothing.
Either Hue hates him or they see him in practice and he sucks like he did against the Texans. I don't see how anyone can watch Kessler play and not know that he is completely done....actually a bit overdone for my taste. He played hard last year and got the shit beat out of him....not hard to imagine that it's taken its toll on him. Why after the last 2 relief appearances (Lions and Bengals) Kessler is still the backup is beyond me. There's probably practice squad players on other rosters who can look more adept at playing QB than Kessler does this season.
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And before we all get too sad for Kessler or any of the BROWNS QBs they'll survive:
Active Roster Cap Figures
Current & future salary cap figures for players on the active roster. For more view the complete Browns Salary Cap Table
QUARTERBACKSPOS.20172018201920202021DeShone Kizer QB $899,712 $1,124,640 $1,349,568 $1,574,496 UFA Cody Kessler QB $770,246 $924,295 $1,078,344 UFA - Kevin Hogan QB $540,000 ERFA - GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
And before we all get too sad for Kessler or any of the BROWNS QBs they'll survive:
Active Roster Cap Figures
Current & future salary cap figures for players on the active roster. For more view the complete Browns Salary Cap Table
QUARTERBACKSPOS.20172018201920202021DeShone Kizer QB $899,712 $1,124,640 $1,349,568 $1,574,496 UFA Cody Kessler QB $770,246 $924,295 $1,078,344 UFA - Kevin Hogan QB $540,000 ERFA - And before we all get too sad for Kessler or any of the BROWNS QBs they'll survive:
Active Roster Cap Figures
Current & future salary cap figures for players on the active roster. For more view the complete Browns Salary Cap Table
QUARTERBACKSPOS.20172018201920202021DeShone Kizer QB $899,712 $1,124,640 $1,349,568 $1,574,496 UFA Cody Kessler QB $770,246 $924,295 $1,078,344 UFA - Kevin Hogan QB $540,000 ERFA - We're spending too much at QB. we need more UDFA to play QB. let's cut anyone over 25 immediately and stack this team with mid round draft picks and undrafted free agents. I want to get Jimmy the most cap room saved for next year as legally possible, so he has the money to fight these evil lawyers who are trying to frame him into being responsible for a rebate scam!
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Yes everything in football and life is relative plus the payroll and caps enter into any decisions, oh FYI:
NFL QUARTERBACKS BY TEAM (2017 cap, Ave cap, % of cap dollars )
Cap Allocation: Active Roster
22 Philadelphia Eagles 3 $7,948,686 $2,649,562 4.70% 23 Los Angeles Rams 3 $7,775,957 $2,591,986 4.97% 24 Arizona Cardinals 3 $5,264,117 $1,754,706 3.14% 25 Minnesota Vikings 3 $4,523,284 $1,507,761 2.86% 26 Denver Broncos 3 $3,556,899 $1,185,633 2.27% 27 Indianapolis Colts 2 $2,580,038 $1,290,019 1.66% 28 Cleveland Browns 3 $2,209,958 $736,653 1.43% 29 Houston Texans 2 $1,175,440 $587,720 0.74% 30 Dallas Cowboys 2 $1,102,514 $551,257 0.69% 31 San Francisco 49ers 2 $1,075,730 $537,865 0.74% 32 Green Bay Packers 2 $1,020,323 $510,162 0.62% -
You tell em boy! Keep them damn football people away from the controls of the team.
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