Cavs sit tight, make no deal at the Trade Deadline

[ATENEARS]

I'm worried about next year (if we don't win it all this year). We will get nothing in return for losing Wally, and Varejao may hold us hostage again, not to mention that queasy feeling we will have if LeBron don't sign the extension early and it lingers all season. This was the year to go for it. I think we missed a huge opportunity.

I think Ferry has done an excellent job getting us to this point, but he got pretty lucky in the blockbuster deal last year and in acquiring Mo for nothing ... Unfortunately, sometimes you have to move a Daniel Gibson or an Anderson Varejao, for the likes of an Antawn Jamison, an Amare Stoudemire, or a Richard Jefferson ... or an expiring contract of Wally's for a Shaq (good greif ... it should have been a no brainer).

Did we really try to make a trade? Seriously? .... we dangled bench players, and held on to expiring contracts and draft picks. What exactly were we fishing for? Or did we even have a hook on the line?

This was a farce ... I think we went sheepish today and the more thought I put into it the madder I get.

[DTBH]

If I remember correctly, last year the trade went through like RIGHT before the deadline. I think if anything happend, we would've heard it by now.

I just think they would have had to screw their future up to adquire anybody that would make their team any better. To get Jefferson, Shaq, Stoud, or Jamison, they'd be giving up too much. Some here have said that the future doesn't matter if you can win a championship now, and I agree. But simply bringing in Jefferson or Shaq or Stoud or Jamison guarentees nothing. There are still 3-4 other really good teams we'd have to beat. The celtics took a chance last year like that, it was ballsy, and it worked. But I'm not sure that's always the right play...especially when you have a young core like Bron, Mo, Delonte, Andy, Sasha, JJ, Boobie, etc.

The reason we've had trouble building our team the past 5 years is lack of draft picks. Let's learn a lesson from that.

[glenby73]

Let's not assume that a deal for Shaq would have guaranteed us a championship. In fact, the only thing it guarantees is we, as fans (or a lot of us anyway), would feel like Ferry is doing everything he can to win.

Other side of the coin...

Phoenix went nowhere last year after the Shaq deal.

Shaq's getting up there. He doesn't always make it to the other end of the floor.

Shaq would change our defense and our offense. I'm sure there would be some good things about that yet it would also create a few holes they would have to learn to fill.

Last year we made a big trade and it was said not all the pieces had time to fit. This year they do.

.... Sometimes you watch a team and feel they're over achieving. They can't possibly continue to play with the intensity and keep racking up the wins. I don't see where this current Cavs team is over achieving. They are winning with solid defense and many of our guys have consistently shot the ball well. We have no reason to believe that will change now.

There's no guarantee we are going to win it all, but I don't think someone embarrasses us like San Antonio did. Who ever beats us will deserve a championship. ...... I know, so let me say it first!

"JUST LIKE BOSTON DID!" there, I feel a little better.... stealing someone's thunder!

[ATENEARS]

@dtbh said:

If I remember correctly, last year the trade went through like RIGHT before the deadline. I think if anything happend, we would've heard it by now.

It's over, I caught the tailend of a Danny ferry interview. We sat idle.

I just think they would have had to screw their future up to aquire anybody that would make their team any better. To get Jefferson, Shaq, Stoud, or Jamison, they'd be giving up too much.

Giving up the expiring contract of Sczcerbiak's?

#1.) He won't be here next season anyhow.

#2.) The Sun's may have even bought him out and he could have returned in 30-days, taking the dead roster spot that Eric Snow still holds on this team (and that the Cavs will now turn into cold cash).

#3.) Shaq's contract would have expired after next season and setting us up great for that strong FA market.

I don't see this deal handcuffing our future, or giving up our future. In fact, it would have helped longer term than sticky with Wally will.

[DTBH]

If it was just Wally, then obviously yes it was a no brainer - make the trade. But no teams were going for that. They wanted Hickson, Andy, draft picks etc.

[Furnier]

I'm trying to look at the bright side. This team IS good enough to win it all as it stands and picking up Shaq wouldn't have been a guarantee anyway. We win it THIS year, LeBron stays for sure after '10 and we are set up nicely for a LONG run at the top.

Fingers crossed here.

Doug

[Canton Mike]

I am not unhappy....

1) At 37 yrs old, Shaq has a MUCH larger chance of season ending injury than our younger players.

2) For guys in their 30's, teams wanted our young talent.

3) The Cavs team chemistry & performance now is the best I have EVER seen here.

4) IF we stay healthy, I feel we have a very real shot at the title.

If we can sign Joe Smith, I say DO IT! I liked him last season & would love to get him back....he just MAY be that missing link, without costing us our future.

Mike

[Kosar_For_President]

@canton-mike said:

I am not unhappy....

1) At 37 yrs old, Shaq has a MUCH larger chance of season ending injury than our younger players.

2) For guys in their 30's, teams wanted our young talent.

3) The Cavs team chemistry & performance now is the best I have EVER seen here.

4) IF we stay healthy, I feel we have a very real shot at the title.

If we can sign Joe Smith, I say DO IT! I liked him last season & would love to get him back....he just MAY be that missing link, without costing us our future.

Mike

I agree with all of that, except, THE FUTURE IS NOW. Whatever it takes to win NOW.

[ATENEARS]

@canton-mike said:

I am not unhappy....

1) At 37 yrs old, Shaq has a MUCH larger chance of season ending injury than our younger players.

C'mon Mike, don't allow this turtle-vest, Ohioian fear approach to sports prevent ya from reaching another Championship. Shaq's healthy and playing rejuvenated at the time being, coming off an All-star MVP weekend.

Our alternative is getting half-lost J.J. Hickson and his growing pains, more reps during a Championship run. Oh yeah, and to lose Wally for nothing next season.

@canton-mike said:

2) For guys in their 30's, teams wanted our young talent.

Actually, let's keep things in perspective, teams were more interested in our expiring contracts than young talent.

@canton-mike said:

3) The Cavs team chemistry & performance now is the best I have EVER seen here.

They had a nice run of team chemistry, but tailed off near the end of the second half and were exposed for a weakness in the paint. If they can find that team chemistry on the court again, and get back to playing sound team defense, they can hang till the end with the big boys with a chance to win it all. It's gonna take near the best chemistry you've ever seen to pull this thing off ... and a damn fun ride.

@canton-mike said:

4) IF we stay healthy, I feel we have a very real shot at the title.

I agree.

@canton-mike said:

If we can sign Joe Smith, I say DO IT! I liked him last season & would love to get him back....he just MAY be that missing link, without costing us our future.

Mike

I agree.

[ATENEARS]

This was a key thread on the season.

Those that wanted to address Orlando, and not ignoring them with only sights set on Boston ... knew what they were talking about, and we never addressed that need ... and it cost us BIG TIME.