The Browns could land a damaged Andrew Luck for the right price.
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Peyton was not traded... he was released.
Ditto for Warner... released by the Rams then signed by NYG... released by NYG (in favor of Eli) then signed by AZ.
Thought maybe, but per wiki...
" In the twilight of his career, Namath was waived by the Jets to facilitate a move to the Los Angeles Rams when a trade could not be worked out. "
True that. I only thought that you were looking for winners with different teams.
True that. I only thought that you were looking for winners with different teams.
Got ya...
No, just trades. I could not think of any. Releases are different... tend to say "we think (insert name here) is done". Not always true, as especially Warner showed, but also dictated by next guy waiting, e.g., Luck, Mark Bulger for Rams and Richard Todd for Jets.
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Has a SB-winning QB ever been traded away after his SB win?
Several have answered your question....but I am not sure those were trades.
Namath went to the Rams.
Unitas to the Chargers.
These were pre free agency....would have to check how they got moved. (Edit: I see the answer on Namath....also this from wiki: Unitas was traded to the San Diego Chargers in 1973 after posting a 5-9 record in 1972 with Baltimore, but he was far past his prime
Montana to the Chiefs
Rypien came to the Browns
Dilfer came to the Browns
Favre to the Jets
Warner to the Giants
Brad Johnson to ??
Peyton to Denver
Some of these were moves after Free Agency started.
But, I see that Montana was indeed traded:
But, I see that Montana was indeed traded:
There's one... and SF had Young waiting.
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True that. I only thought that you were looking for winners with different teams.
Got ya...
No, just trades. I could not think of any. Releases are different... tend to say "we think (insert name here) is done". Not always true, as especially Warner showed, but also dictated by next guy waiting, e.g., Luck, Mark Bulger for Rams and Richard Todd for Jets.
Got ya...
No, just trades. I could not think of any. Releases are different... tend to say "we think (insert name here) is done". Not always true, as especially Warner showed, but also dictated by next guy waiting, e.g., Luck, Mark Bulger for Rams and Richard Todd for Jets.
Well, learning all the different scenarios that occur in the NFL (free agents, unrestricted free agents, trades...) is one thing that I still don't dominate. In comparation, soccer is really simple. It's easy for me to make mistakes on that area.
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@boo-fagley said:
Lose, lose, lose.
The Chiefs have followed your FA QB recipe for success and just won their 1st playoff game in 23 years. Good luck with that.
You aren't comprehending the question....the question has a QB who has won a SB ever been traded. As for lose, lose lose, Favre won, Johnson won, Warner won, Dilfer won. Unitas won. Peyton won They did not win with the team that drafted them...but in their cases they also got traded/released after having won. (but only Peyton won after that)
As for the Chiefs, They also appeared in their two Super Bowls..winning one... with a QB they didn't draft. (Dawson...hell the Browns had him and let him go)
Drafting is a way to go. But not the only way.
Obviously drafting QBs has not brought success to the Browns lately. (but then...neither has any other method)
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Got ya...
No, just trades. I could not think of any. Releases are different... tend to say "we think (insert name here) is done". Not always true, as especially Warner showed, but also dictated by next guy waiting, e.g., Luck, Mark Bulger for Rams and Richard Todd for Jets.
Well, learning all the different scenarios that occur in the NFL (free agents, unrestricted free agents, trades...) is one thing that I still don't dominate. In comparation, soccer is really simple. It's easy for me to make mistakes on that area.
Well, learning all the different scenarios that occur in the NFL (free agents, unrestricted free agents, trades...) is one thing that I still don't dominate. In comparation, soccer is really simple. It's easy for me to make mistakes on that area.
Any more soccer references and you will get a bicycle kick right up your arse.
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Got ya...
No, just trades. I could not think of any. Releases are different... tend to say "we think (insert name here) is done". Not always true, as especially Warner showed, but also dictated by next guy waiting, e.g., Luck, Mark Bulger for Rams and Richard Todd for Jets.
Well, learning all the different scenarios that occur in the NFL (free agents, unrestricted free agents, trades...) is one thing that I still don't dominate. In comparation, soccer is really simple. It's easy for me to make mistakes on that area.
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I mean there are only signings and transfers. In the trades the football player signs a new contract with his new team, whereas the new team pays something to the old club which has the player's rights (sometimes an exchange of players enters in the equation). The american football trades where the player keeps his contract came to a surprise to me.
The transfer is used usually for young players which don't have a spot in the roster (28 men roster), but the team wants to keep under contract. They transfer them to a team (hopefully in a competitive league, so the player develops) while they pay they keep paying their salary and maintain their rights over him. Usually these transfers have a clause which doesn't allow the player to play against the team which still posseses his rights.
There isn't a draft, nor salary cap and usually players who hit free agency are castoffs.
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Well, learning all the different scenarios that occur in the NFL (free agents, unrestricted free agents, trades...) is one thing that I still don't dominate. In comparation, soccer is really simple. It's easy for me to make mistakes on that area.
Any more soccer references and you will get a bicycle kick right up your arse.
Any more soccer references and you will get a bicycle kick right up your arse.
Don't dis the sport pal. Just watched the Crew lose to Toronto.
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I mean there are only signings and transfers. In the trades the football player signs a new contract with his new team, whereas the new team pays something to the old club which has the player's rights (sometimes an exchange of players enters in the equation). The american football trades where the player keeps his contract came to a surprise to me.
The transfer is used usually for young players which don't have a spot in the roster (28 men roster), but the team wants to keep under contract. They transfer them to a team (hopefully in a competitive league, so the player develops) while they pay they keep paying their salary and maintain their rights over him. Usually these transfers have a clause which doesn't allow the player to play against the team which still posseses his rights.
There isn't a draft, nor salary cap and usually players who hit free agency are castoffs.
I mean there are only signings and transfers. In the trades the football player signs a new contract with his new team, whereas the new team pays something to the old club which has the player's rights (sometimes an exchange of players enters in the equation). The american football trades where the player keeps his contract came to a surprise to me.
The transfer is used usually for young players which don't have a spot in the roster (28 men roster), but the team wants to keep under contract. They transfer them to a team (hopefully in a competitive league, so the player develops) while they pay they keep paying their salary and maintain their rights over him. Usually these transfers have a clause which doesn't allow the player to play against the team which still posseses his rights.
There isn't a draft, nor salary cap and usually players who hit free agency are castoffs.
Well....you asked for it:
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I mean there are only signings and transfers. In the trades the football player signs a new contract with his new team, whereas the new team pays something to the old club which has the player's rights (sometimes an exchange of players enters in the equation). The american football trades where the player keeps his contract came to a surprise to me.
The transfer is used usually for young players which don't have a spot in the roster (28 men roster), but the team wants to keep under contract. They transfer them to a team (hopefully in a competitive league, so the player develops) while they pay they keep paying their salary and maintain their rights over him. Usually these transfers have a clause which doesn't allow the player to play against the team which still posseses his rights.
There isn't a draft, nor salary cap and usually players who hit free agency are castoffs.
Well....you asked for it:
Well....you asked for it:
Prague! Great city. A must visit.
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Well....you asked for it:
Prague! Great city. A must visit.
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Any more soccer references and you will get a bicycle kick right up your arse.
Don't dis the sport pal. Just watched the Crew lose to Toronto.
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Well....you asked for it:
Prague! Great city. A must visit.
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@boo-fagley said:
The Browns have a much better chance drafting a Franchise QB. That is my position and just because the Browns havent been able to draft a Franchise QB, that does not mean that they never will.
The thread is about taking Andy Luck off the Colts hands. My answer is NO, unless he is going cheap which I doubt is the case.
Somebody has to have a pretty good idea who the next stud QB is. They knew Ben was down there in Miami of Ohio.
Again why would the Colts do it? Give away a top 5 or 10 quarterback? If they think there's a better option in the draft maybe we should take him.
WSS
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@boo-fagley said:
Because Luck is not the answer for Indy.
He is not the guy who makes those around him better.
You gotta be kidding. All these years that the Colts have been fighting for the AFC South, Luck has been the only one keeping their chances alive.
The cast around him is terrible.
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@boo-fagley said:
Because Luck is not the answer for Indy.
He is not the guy who makes those around him better.
You gotta be kidding. All these years that the Colts have been fighting for the AFC South, Luck has been the only one keeping their chances alive.
The cast around him is terrible.
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This would never happen, not really even a point in discussing it
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@boo-fagley said:
The Browns have a much better chance drafting a Franchise QB. That is my position and just because the Browns havent been able to draft a Franchise QB, that does not mean that they never will.
I don't know that the Browns have a much better chance at finding a Franchise QB in the draft...or otherwise. Obviously their draft history suggests that whomever they draft that they think will be their FQOTF....will not be. But, yes, they should try. I mean...how often can one team get unlucky?
The thread is about taking Andy Luck off the Colts hands. My answer is NO, unless he is going cheap which I doubt is the case.
And I don't have a problem with that. My only point was to NOT put all your eggs in one basket necessarily. To say "we are only going to take QBs in the draft....and to ignore potential trades of FAs...would be shortsighted"
Somebody has to have a pretty good idea who the next stud QB is. They knew Ben was down there in Miami of Ohio.
I am not sure anyone knows for sure. Somebody thought Jamarcus Russell would be the next stud QB. Someone thought Joey Harrington would be that. Someone thought Vince Young would be that. Someone thought Jake Locker would be that. Someone thought Josh Freeman would be that. Someone thought RGIII would be that. Someone thought Blake Bortles would be that. Someone thought David Carr would be that. Some team thought that Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel would be that. The Steelers got lucky. They got a guy that, as a first round QB taken, is like in the top 5 best QB taken this century. BR could easily have been a Christian Ponder or a Blaine Gabbert or a Matt Leinert, or Jay Cutler, all of whom were taken in the 10-11-12 -13 pick range...just as BR was.
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